The Supreme Court continues with its liberal social activism

[Eddie Haskell]

Turfgrass:

The Supreme Court did exactly what it was suppose to do in this case. It interpretted law providing for the exectuion of minors as violative of the 8th and 14th amendment. Isn't that what there suppose to do?

Typical right wing argument. You take a legal opinion, interpretted by the ultra conservative op ed page of CORPORATE AMERICA MEDIA, squeeze it to fit your pre-conceived concept of fairness (eye for an eye, etc.) which of course is based upon religous right fanaticism and then call the Court liberal and the judges activist.

Boys, they interpretted the constitution. Looking at national and international positions on issues such as whether or not the death penalty is a cruel and unusual punishment for a minor is not uncommon. Looking at how the legislatures of this country treat the issue is also common. Using moral guides and psychological studies of minors, determing whether the the death penalty is a deterent and if retribution is a valid reason for such a penalty involving minors are all factors appropriately used by the Court in ruling on this issue.

Sorry for all of you who want to give the states the right to fry an eight year old. And I know that there are many of our less informed minions who feel this way. The Court did what it should have done. No matter what spin you and the others of your ilk want to put on it.

Eddie

 

[Turfgrass]

"They interpretted the constitution. Looking at national and international positions on issues such as whether or not the death penalty is a cruel and unusual punishment for a minor is not uncommon. Looking at how the legislatures of this country treat the issue is also common. Using moral guides and psychological studies of minors, determing whether the the death penalty is a deterent and if retribution is a valid reason for such a penalty involving minors are all factors appropriately used by the Court in ruling on this issue."

Now according to "national consensus" and ?international opinion? it?s unconstitutional.

Thanks Eddie I get it now...my bad.

 

[smurphy]

Bottom line, this too minor (no pun intended) of a case to be the poster child of anti-liberal courts crusade. You'll never get enough people to be outraged over this. Wait til it's a bigger fight and go to town then. As ferdville mentioned above - only 3 people in 16 years have fit into this category. It just isn't enough of an issue - regardless of interpretations of what the Supreme Court's purpose is.

All you outraged guys sound like bleeding heart liberals with your whining over this.

Thanks for the civics lesson though, Englishman. I was an ignorant buffoon before that enlightment.

 

[boomer7]

Maybe I just dont get it.But how is it that some people have the same stance everytime...Regardless of the cicumstance.
There are somethings I am Conservative on and somethings I am liberal on.

 

[kosar]

Maybe I just dont get it.But how is it that some people have the same stance everytime...Regardless of the cicumstance.
There are somethings I am Conservative on and somethings I am liberal on.

I agree, Boomer. There are a few of us centrists around here, but not many.

It's funny how this ruling is blamed on 'liberal activists' and a 'socialist Supreme Court' when the Justice who wrote the opinion is conservative.

Many on this board will blame anything and everything on 'liberals'.

 

[dr. freeze]

Ha Ha Ha. Kennedy is a conservative?

That is one of the most laughable things I have ever head.

 

[kosar]

Oh boy, here we go again. First the Nazis were liberal and now so is Kennedy?

 

[dr. freeze]

have you rebutted any the points i made mr. kosar?

or do you just regurgitate what your marxist professor tells you?

then scoff at any view different than his and your ACLU buddies

Kennedy is BY NO MEANS A CONSERVATIVE

I did not say he is a liberal. He is left of moderate.

I don't care if Barry Goldwater appointed him. He is NOT A CONSERVATIVE.

No conservative would make this ruling.

Read Scalia's rebuttal to see a true conservative interpretation of the Constitution.

 

[dr. freeze]

"To invoke alien law when it agrees with one's own thinking, and ignore it otherwise, is not reasoned decisionmaking, but sophistry" -- Justice Scalia

NO CONSERVATIVE would ever invoke international law and apply it to our Constitution. The rule of law has been reduced to rule of whim or mob rule seemingly by this idiot court. And the whim is not even of our own country!!!!

 

[smurphy]

:violin: :violin:

lotta good fights out there. find one that doesn't make you sound like a bleeding heart liberal.

 

[kosar]

I went back through the thread and didn't see any points to be rebutted. O'Connor dissented. Is she a conservative now?

This is the exact thing Boomer was talking about. How Kennedy actually strayed from the party line in this one particular instance and now, according to you, that proves he isn't a conservative.

He's a moderate conservative, and that to you makes him a socialist.

 

[djv]

I thought the court was very liberal deciding the Bush, Gore voter outcome. As for this ruleing for some in here it would not matter if they drop the age to 11. Do they really believe that. Most likely not. But sounds different and they like that.

 

[Englishman]

Eddie, Eddie, Eddie....I never equated the liberals on the SC with Nazis....where do you get that from, brother??

Merely saying that the SC has a definite constitutional role that is currently not being fulfilled thanks to the liberals on the Court.

No mention of Nazis....let's not get hysterical now.

Kennedy a conservative judge???....that was a classic. Nearly choked on my nachos!!

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Englishman:

How did you determine Anthony Kennedy was liberal. I mean really you wouldn't choke on your nachos if Kennedy was viewed as a consenus builder and a bridge to join polarized justices. How in the name of Earl Warren do you view this Reagan appointee as a liberal justice.

Speaking of getting hysterical. Its wonderful how you right wing psychopaths call moderates liberals and fasists moderates. Kinda the same way you call the media liberal.

Feast on this Benito:

http://www.angelfire.com/mo2/supremecourt2000/kennedy.html

Eddie

 

[dr. freeze]

Kennedy is not a conservative in any way shape or form

Robert Bork should have his spot.

Unfortunately he was screwed over by the liberals, he along wtih Scalia would have been able to stand up to Ruth Bader Ginsburg card carring member of the evil ACLU, the organization which is destroying everything that America has stood for.

 

[Master Capper]

Evil ACLU, BWHAHAHAHHAHA are they as evil as the religious right wing?

 

[dr. freeze]

what has the religious right wing done that is so horrid?

the ACLU has stripped our country of our heritage, disarmed the police force, elimiminated justice from the courts, turned our national defense into a laughingstock, promoted thought control and labelled any ideology non politically correct as hate speech, etc. etc.

 

[djv]

I didn't know Bush was in charge of the ACLU.