Steven A. Idiot and shaq/kobe/wade/AI thoughts

[pt1gard]

Okay, when is the NBA gonna take this self-hype moron off the screen?

when asked if Philly has any chance for the playoffs w/o Ivy cuz of his bone chip, he stared in all his thespian glamour into the camera and said "NO!"

arent they doing nothing with AI anyway (in pathetic east)? did they make playoffs last year?

Im sorry AI shoots 41.7 lifetime and is 41.9 this year and guns his ass off and never makes anyone any better--when will his org. learn you cant win this way? LY he shot 39% thats almost impossible ...

Steven A. went on to say, "Webber knows, and is willing to get AI his 25-30 shots a night" Last I checked no solo performers who dont lead by example in practice (ala MJ) ever fare too well in playoffs... is he SMITH forgetting deet clocked Lakers last year after he picked his rugged LA boys to collect rings ...

Now onto Kobe, where are all those posts about him being better than Shaq? ... I expected those believers to slink away--lets refresh Kobe right now, his team is 32-31 and clawing for their life for last spot in west, while Shaq's club sports leagues best record ... shaq is dominating as usual and Kobe's FG % continues to slip to AI-like frigid regions, now 42.5--that my friends is a joke for someone of his skill; he was a lifetime 45% before Shaq left, aha! did shaq make Kobe or did Kobe make shaq, proof in the Jell-O ...

Kobe is also tossing the ball to opponets at all time high, increasing his TO rate 50% from his lifetime number this year--its now up to 4.2 a game--that is laffable ... As for Wade, who is slowly making everyone reassess who might be the king of highlights and the true winner out of all this, he's raised his shooting % to 48.4 and deals 7 assists a game, not bad for a kid ...


Kobe you have made your bed; AI as much ink as U get from people who dont gauge winning and team ball into equations, you are still at bottom of my list ... PTs dont = Ws ... but some people never learn ... You advance to the right of the bracket playing as a team, you go left on indiviudual glory ... or didint Argentina prove that last summer?

ok, thats my one nba vent for the year

gl, gregg

 

[MrChristo]

Great post, pt1gard. :clap: :clap:

 

[mjalam]

Okay, when is the NBA gonna take this self-hype moron off the screen?

when asked if Philly has any chance for the playoffs w/o Ivy cuz of his bone chip, he stared in all his thespian glamour into the camera and said "NO!"

arent they doing nothing with AI anyway (in pathetic east)? did they make playoffs last year?

Im sorry AI shoots 41.7 lifetime and is 41.9 this year and guns his ass off and never makes anyone any better--when will his org. learn you cant win this way? LY he shot 39% thats almost impossible ...

Steven A. went on to say, "Webber knows, and is willing to get AI his 25-30 shots a night" Last I checked no solo performers who dont lead by example in practice (ala MJ) ever fare too well in playoffs... is he SMITH forgetting deet clocked Lakers last year after he picked his rugged LA boys to collect rings ...

Now onto Kobe, where are all those posts about him being better than Shaq? ... I expected those believers to slink away--lets refresh Kobe right now, his team is 32-31 and clawing for their life for last spot in west, while Shaq's club sports leagues best record ... shaq is dominating as usual and Kobe's FG % continues to slip to AI-like frigid regions, now 42.5--that my friends is a joke for someone of his skill; he was a lifetime 45% before Shaq left, aha! did shaq make Kobe or did Kobe make shaq, proof in the Jell-O ...

Kobe is also tossing the ball to opponets at all time high, increasing his TO rate 50% from his lifetime number this year--its now up to 4.2 a game--that is laffable ... As for Wade, who is slowly making everyone reassess who might be the king of highlights and the true winner out of all this, he's raised his shooting % to 48.4 and deals 7 assists a game, not bad for a kid ...


Kobe you have made your bed; AI as much ink as U get from people who dont gauge winning and team ball into equations, you are still at bottom of my list ... PTs dont = Ws ... but some people never learn ... You advance to the right of the bracket playing as a team, you go left on indiviudual glory ... or didint Argentina prove that last summer?

ok, thats my one nba vent for the year

gl, gregg

not even going to comment on the iverson thing, but you can't compare how kobe/shaq's teams are doing...because each star has a different supporting cast..damon jones, dwayne wade and eddie jones are better players then what the lakers are playing with...and i hate kobe so that has nothing to do with who i think is better

 

[THE HITMAN]

I refuse to even listen to this pompous ass. There aren't too many on TV that I absolutely hit the volume control on but he is at the top of the list right now. I can't stand him, but he seems to get more and more air time each year. The other football Jackson (not Keith)from ESPN who is forever frothing at the mouth is another. Ex broadcaster Calvin Murphy of Houston is there, too. And, Tom Heinsohn (sic?) from Boston is approaching that status with me very quickly.

 

[pt1gard]

head to head (duh, I know they didnt guard one another) kobe 8/23 tonight vs shaq's 11/19 ... the beat goes on, Heat by 13

 

[ELVIS]

hal jaffe, sucks stevey a's ....

may be the most annoying commentator out their (i personally rate doug collins #1 most annoying)

even if he is right about a topic, his style is a complete turn off. sadly, do agree about iverson. always overrated. individual stats are great, but he is an embarrasment to the game. :sadwave:

 

[pt1gard]

heres a good article by steve kerrr ...



L.A.'s solo act

By Steve Kerr, Yahoo! Sports
March 18, 2005




Following his team's second loss of the season to Shaquille O'Neal and the Miami Heat, Kobe Bryant made some telling comments that revealed much of what he's experiencing this year without Shaq at his side.

"I've been forced to take a lot of bail-out shots with the shot clock running down, taking fadeaways and shots like that," he said. "Teams are running guys at me all the time. That's just the position I'm in, and I have to deal with it."

As my kids often say to each other when one of them says something obvious ? "Duh!" Or as a wise man once said, "Be careful what you wish for."

What is happening to Bryant now was easy to foresee when he helped push Shaq out the Lakers' door last summer: He can't do it alone.

Kobe may have thought he could win a championship by himself, and he probably was consumed by the idea of the challenge. He is so confident in his abilities that he may have envisioned a Michael Jordan-type dominance of the NBA. If he could find himself a Scottie Pippen-type teammate ? Lamar Odom, perhaps? ? and surround himself with other role players, then he could carry his team to the title.

Kobe had already traveled the path to an NBA crown ? three times, to be exact ? but he wanted to find a new route. He wanted to fly the plane by himself instead of being Shaq's co-pilot. But the frustrating thing for Lakers fans is that the formula for another three or four titles was already intact if only Kobe and Shaq could have coexisted. In the end, they couldn't, and Bryant has been given most of the blame.

To be fair, O'Neal also deserves some of the blame for their failed relationship. In fact, last week Shaq commented in a rare display of contrition that "Kobe was a problem, but so was I."

There's an old saying that there's only room for one peacock in every henhouse, and as teammates, Kobe and Shaq clearly spent way too much time fanning out their feathers. Even while their team was dominating the NBA, the two just couldn't make their relationship work. Last summer, it came to a head, starting with the team's shocking loss to Detroit in the NBA finals.

In the end, Kobe forced the Lakers' hand, implying that he might leave the team via free agency before they traded Shaq away to the Heat. And now Bryant is lying in the bed that he made.

Thursday's game in Miami epitomized Kobe's overwhelming responsibilities to his team. A poor defensive club that ranks last in the NBA in steals, the Lakers' best option against Dwyane Wade was to have Bryant cover the Heat's terrific young guard. Kobe engaged in a spirited battle with Wade and wore himself out in the process. After scoring 21 points in the first half, Kobe missed his first nine shots after halftime ? most of them fadeaways with the Heat loading up its defense against him ? and he seemed too tired to attack the rim. The Heat won the game easily 102-89.

In fact, Kobe has developed a disturbing habit of settling for 3-point shots. He attempted 30 during the Lakers' four-game losing streak, and the entire Lakers team has fallen into the trap. They rank third in 3-point attempts at almost 22 per game but hit just 35 percent of them. As a result, the Lakers have become a very inconsistent team that lives and dies with jump shots.

Kobe, of course, tries to carry his team through dry spells ? and he often does, as evidenced by his amazing 21-point fourth quarter and game-winning jump shot in Charlotte last week. But without a consistent inside threat, he is forced to do too much, which is why he averages the second highest number of turnovers in the league at just over four per game.

Bryant's desire to lead his own team to a championship may one day yield him another title, but at this point it seems like a distant mirage. Entering Friday's games, the Lakers trailed 1? games behind Denver for the West's eighth and final playoff spot, and their schedule does not lend itself to a strong finish.

One wonders if Kobe spends any time at all pondering the events that led to Shaq's departure. Does he stay up at night thinking about what might have been? Does he wonder if he made a huge mistake in letting the Big Fella leave town? Does he ever consider that the two of them could have formed the NBA's greatest duo ever? Does he realize he could have worn six or seven championship rings by the end of his career?

Be careful what you wish for indeed

 

[maverick2112]

not even going to comment on the iverson thing, but you can't compare how kobe/shaq's teams are doing...because each star has a different supporting cast..damon jones, dwayne wade and eddie jones are better players then what the lakers are playing with...and i hate kobe so that has nothing to do with who i think is better

Well I dont know but if I were choosing a 3 on 3 game then Lamar Odom, Caron Butler and Brian Grant would probably be just as popular as Damon Jones, Wade and Eddie Jones..........