I guess I should remember when I'm talking to another "centrist" of the forum. Thought it was just Kosar and djv.
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Don't lump me with those clowns! :mj14:
I don't claim to be a centrist by any means. I am a conservative, but on this issue I think personal choice will make more difference than waiting for the government to keep our oil prices in check.
IO--Your business obviously keeps you in a certain type of vehicle. Do you also use these vehicles for personal time as well? This may be the case. If not, you may consider a hybrid vehicle to lower your personal fuel costs.
But everyone has an image they try to keep and somebody that drives such a manly vehicle during the day probably can't afford to be seen in a hybrid at night. :tongue just kidding
I don't claim to be a centrist by any means. I am a conservative, but on this issue I think personal choice will make more difference than waiting for the government to keep our oil prices in check.
IO--Your business obviously keeps you in a certain type of vehicle. Do you also use these vehicles for personal time as well? This may be the case. If not, you may consider a hybrid vehicle to lower your personal fuel costs.
But everyone has an image they try to keep and somebody that drives such a manly vehicle during the day probably can't afford to be seen in a hybrid at night. :tongue just kidding
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Figured you were around here somewhere.
Dawgball
I can't put this any other way....
I hate driving!
I hate vehicles
I hate mechanics
I hate roads
( the last three it's more like despise)
I'm kind of like the opposite of the gearheads in GD.
I don't have any appreciation for any of the vehicles, stories, or power involved. Only the stupid T&A groupies that hover around all that BS. To me vehicles are mandatory tools in todays life. Such as a pen or pencil. I don't get having the most over priced and "coolest" pen on the block.
The car manufacturers have absolutely no intention of making a quality vehicle that will operate correctly. Not even for 5 years let alone 10-20. This includes the worthless new car parts your vehicle may need from time to time.
I have never and will never own a new vehicle.
Money is not an issue.
I would have no problem owning a hybrid. Down the road I may actually buy a 5 or 10 year old hybrid. Naturally they 1st have to get the kinks out of the current generation of them. As long as I can fit comfortably in one, I'm a hair shy of 6'5", I would rather enjoy paying less to use a tool that moves me about.
The other reason I would rather own a new vehicle has to do with life in the big city. I basically have no problem hitting, bumping, or scratching another vehicle or mine. This is almost mandatory operating procedure here. I don't want to have a bird sh*t on my car or a shopping cart hit it or my girlfriends kid put her little feet on the dash without having an attack because "It's my baby".
Almost forgot....
mechanics are GENERALLY the lowest form of scum on the planet.
Don't even get me started on computers.
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Very funny, IO, and I completely agree. High dollar money spent on cars outside of work (this does not include buying a BMW to impress potential clients) makes no sense to me.
I personally rank RE agents well below mechanics, but that's because I am lucky enough to ahve an uncle that works on my vehicles (which tend to be quite old). The rest of my family complains about the small family discount that we receive, but I see it that having a mechanic that is not screwing me is discount enough.
StevieD- you classifying yourself as a centrist is hilarious.
kosar--as many people that are claiming centrist around here, I think the fence is about to break.
I personally rank RE agents well below mechanics, but that's because I am lucky enough to ahve an uncle that works on my vehicles (which tend to be quite old). The rest of my family complains about the small family discount that we receive, but I see it that having a mechanic that is not screwing me is discount enough.
StevieD- you classifying yourself as a centrist is hilarious.
kosar--as many people that are claiming centrist around here, I think the fence is about to break.
Dawg, fence sitting to one is being open minded to another.
And Stevie represents centrists everywhere very well.
dance1
And Stevie represents centrists everywhere very well.
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lol-kosar. wasn't making fun of anyone being a centrist (which I believe you are), but the claim of centrist doesn't make one a centrist. I believe (but who doesn't) that I am open minded, but I know I am on the right (not necessarily correct) side of the fence.
My convictions are personal. This issue would be one that I agree with the left. Also on Life matters. I am against abortion and capital punishment. There is no political influence in that matter for me.
Anyway...
My convictions are personal. This issue would be one that I agree with the left. Also on Life matters. I am against abortion and capital punishment. There is no political influence in that matter for me.
Anyway...
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It's issue to issue, my friend. If this thread were about the ACLU, I'd be practically a neo-con.IntenseOperator said:
When it comes energy and environmental issues and this current administration - well you can call me a Communist or whatever. At least my talk is backed up with something though. By the way, I'm as capitalist as you can be.
I love Chicago by the way. Last year I drove there from Vegas on 3 tanks - yes over 1800 miles on 3 tanks. That includes the huge mountain passes in the Rockies. Yeah, I lost some horsepower going up those - but I made up for it on the flipside in neutral scaring the hell out the people who passed me on the way up.
I like the current commercial that refers to hybrids being passed by mopeds. ..OK, whatever, nice truthfull advertising there. Playing on the very same "image" hangups that Dawgball mentions.
Is there any one that admits to being a liberal????????
You might want to take this test---
http://www.liberaltest.com/
You might want to take this test---
http://www.liberaltest.com/
I admit to being liberal on some issues. But then I don't do well at PETA meetings and ACLU rallies and I hate hippies (just like Cartman), and I like the Death Penalty, wanted to make Afghanistan the 51st state, etc. There's plenty of keystone issues that I don't give a damn about either way like abortion, right to die Shiavo crap, flag burning, etc.
But hey DTB, if you wanna measure my level of "Liberal" based solely on how much I despise the current administration - then I'd be as liberal as they come. Whatever you want man, call me or lots of other people Liberals - like it's an unpatriotic cuss word if you want - it misses the point entirely. But that's pretty much what the Bush people want - divide the country into 2 groups - try to ostracize the one group as anti-American if they don't fall in line with their position (some good, some bad and very hypocritical) on every single friggin point.
But hey DTB, if you wanna measure my level of "Liberal" based solely on how much I despise the current administration - then I'd be as liberal as they come. Whatever you want man, call me or lots of other people Liberals - like it's an unpatriotic cuss word if you want - it misses the point entirely. But that's pretty much what the Bush people want - divide the country into 2 groups - try to ostracize the one group as anti-American if they don't fall in line with their position (some good, some bad and very hypocritical) on every single friggin point.
Stevie:
Tom DeLay, Carl Rove, and Heinrich Himmler are to the left of Wayne.
Someone had a pretty good suggestion earlier in this thread. Why don't we cap gas prices like we have capped jury awards. Using republican logic, oil companies are unable to render fair prices for gas therefore government should not permit oil companies to charge more than x dollars per gallon.
After all, we all pay for it. Why do the republicans think government intervention in some business is okay but not in others. Why are the oil companies not regulated like juries?
Eddie
Tom DeLay, Carl Rove, and Heinrich Himmler are to the left of Wayne.
Someone had a pretty good suggestion earlier in this thread. Why don't we cap gas prices like we have capped jury awards. Using republican logic, oil companies are unable to render fair prices for gas therefore government should not permit oil companies to charge more than x dollars per gallon.
After all, we all pay for it. Why do the republicans think government intervention in some business is okay but not in others. Why are the oil companies not regulated like juries?
Eddie
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It's comments like this that don't make any sense to me. This country was divided on issues like this long before Bush came around. People are just as much a part of the problem with comments like this.
Also, in my opinion, the word Liberal has no more negative connotation than the word Conservative does these days.
When Bush pushes forward issues like Constitutional Ammendments to ban gay marriage - that's divisive. When he sends the country to war over speculative and marginal evidence - that's devisive.
Of course the country has always had varying views on things - but this particualr administartion spends much more effort creating a wedge than it does working with common ground.
Liberal has far more negative connotation than conservative during times of war and you know it. If you are labeled Liberal anything, it implies you are unpatriotic and unsupportive of the troops. This administration and the talking heads of Fox play that card whenever possible.
Of course the country has always had varying views on things - but this particualr administartion spends much more effort creating a wedge than it does working with common ground.
Liberal has far more negative connotation than conservative during times of war and you know it. If you are labeled Liberal anything, it implies you are unpatriotic and unsupportive of the troops. This administration and the talking heads of Fox play that card whenever possible.
Smurph I wouldn't call you a hard core liberal--As with Kosar you use logic and are open minded on most issues. I'd say you slant a tad to the left but nothing wrong with that.
The test was meant to be a joke as the questions were quite loaded.
Good one brother Dawg
Edward --Sorry bud, got some more bad news for you---
TORONTO (AP) - A U.S. Army paratrooper who fled to Canada to avoid serving in Iraq was denied political asylum Thursday, dealing a blow to other deserters here who argue such duty would force them to commit atrocities against civilians.
The test was meant to be a joke as the questions were quite loaded.
Good one brother Dawg
Edward --Sorry bud, got some more bad news for you---
TORONTO (AP) - A U.S. Army paratrooper who fled to Canada to avoid serving in Iraq was denied political asylum Thursday, dealing a blow to other deserters here who argue such duty would force them to commit atrocities against civilians.
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DTB Bush could say he's a liberal. Or if it's not him it's the Republican controlled congress. Someone is spending money like drunken sailors. I still can't find out why gas goes up 5 to 6 cents a pop. But on the way down it's 1 to 2 cents. To bad there is so much oil in the world. I mean they even admit it's a refinery problem not oil. So there answer is go drill for more. Maybe someone should add a refinery. Oh those good days of 1998 an 1999 at 99 cents a gallon.
