"uber" is a term we neocons like to use...it harkens back to our roots in nazi,germany....
that....and i heard jackie mason use it once in a stand-up routine and it stuck with me...
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"uber" is a term we neocons like to use...it harkens back to our roots in nazi,germany....
that....and i heard jackie mason use it once in a stand-up routine and it stuck with me...
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gardenweasel said:
GW- just for clarification, you aren't addressing me with this, are you? If so, read my most recent post before this (No. 16). If not, carry on. Just wanted to check.
no,bjf......just trying to add my own special brand of inanity to the thread...
my motto is,"everyone is entitled to my opinion"...
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my motto is,"everyone is entitled to my opinion"...
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the right to carry a gun only deters crime and criminals and we ought to have that right
I would think it would escalate crime. The criminal certainly isn't going to go get a real job, now that Joe Public might have a gun! The criminal might decide, "I will kill my victim first, to prevent from being a victim myself."
More guns, like more taxes, won't solve the problems we are facing.
I would think it would escalate crime. The criminal certainly isn't going to go get a real job, now that Joe Public might have a gun! The criminal might decide, "I will kill my victim first, to prevent from being a victim myself."
More guns, like more taxes, won't solve the problems we are facing.
bjfinste said:
Freeze..."no one else promotes more responsibiltiy with guns than the NRA"
Um....yep.
I just wish the NRA would worry more about game hunting then people hunting. Hell in Wisconsin they don't have enough to hunt they now want to shoot stray cats. I mean meow type cats. Not lions or tigers. I guess they got tired of shooting old cans and bottles. I some time wonder if some those guys even know the right end of a shotgun.
MrChristo said:
where exactly are you from?
how do you know anything other than what the leftist media spoonfeeds you?
dr. freeze said:
I can read a quote!! Sounds to me that Ted isn't being very responsible at all, now was he Freeze?
Tell me this (anyone, it's a serious question)...You have a gun(s) in your home for protection...Where do you keep them? What if you have kids, does the 'hiding' spot change? Is it locked up?
The reason I ask is because if the gun is for protection, how much time will you have to grab it and shoot the intruder?
Do you really need a semi automatic assult rifle to protect your home?
Oh, and yes, I do think it's ****ing hilarious that you've mentioned 'leftist media' after listening to Ted Nugent wanting to kill anyone who's eyes are too close together! :mj07:
PS...Aren't a lot of these NRA members good, loyal God worshipping Christians?...Seems to me breaking Commandment no. 6, no.3 (no doubt!), definately no. 4, and very likely 7 and 10 (at once), just so others Shalt not steal....
...Ahhh...the whacky old religious right
As an aside, you should hear the filth that comes out of that wh*re Ann Coulter's yap when I'm sliding my bone into her a**.
MrChristo said:I can read a quote!! Sounds to me that Ted isn't being very responsible at all, now was he Freeze?
Tell me this (anyone, it's a serious question)...You have a gun(s) in your home for protection...Where do you keep them? What if you have kids, does the 'hiding' spot change? Is it locked up?
The reason I ask is because if the gun is for protection, how much time will you have to grab it and shoot the intruder?
Do you really need a semi automatic assult rifle to protect your home?
Oh, and yes, I do think it's ****ing hilarious that you've mentioned 'leftist media' after listening to Ted Nugent wanting to kill anyone who's eyes are too close together! :mj07:
PS...Aren't a lot of these NRA members good, loyal God worshipping Christians?...Seems to me breaking Commandment no. 6, no.3 (no doubt!), definately no. 4, and very likely 7 and 10 (at once), just so others Shalt not steal....
...Ahhh...the whacky old religious right
how do you think you came to the conclusion that Ted Nugent is the spokesman the NRA? the dude gives a concert and just like the BS i have to listen to when i saw the Dixie Chicks or any other left wing group, they say crazy things (except in the former case the leftist media doesnt run these comments over and over ad nauseam...actually they do their best NOT to report them as we saw recently with Rock and the oscars)
and when he makes a satirical comment the media and left do nothing but run that over and over again?
you are wacked dude, i dont see how owning a gun, defending your family, and hunting play at all with the ten commandments...unless you are foolish enough to think that defending yourself is equivalent to murder...but then you are probably one of those Jane Fonda wackos on the street shouting at our troops calling them murderers too
FYI, a semi automatic rifle is necessary for defense against abuses of the government
like it or not, the only thing that ultimately holds the government at bay is the power of the people...and weaponry bestows that power
if you have any sense of American history, or want to educate yourselves, you can go back and read yourself on what the founders and writers of the constitution said about this matter
or you can continue to spew your ignorant rantings....and i may or may not attempt to educate you myself
like it or not, the only thing that ultimately holds the government at bay is the power of the people...and weaponry bestows that power
if you have any sense of American history, or want to educate yourselves, you can go back and read yourself on what the founders and writers of the constitution said about this matter
or you can continue to spew your ignorant rantings....and i may or may not attempt to educate you myself
Looks like its time for another Dr. Freeze History lesson :nono: :nono: :nono:
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
George Washington
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
Thomas Jefferson
"Such are a well regulated militia, composed of the freeholders, citizen and husbandman, who take up arms to preserve their property, as individuals, and their rights as freemen."
"M.T. Cicero" 1788
"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
Tench Coxe, June 18, 1789
"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824
"The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops..."
Noah Webster, An Examination of The Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, Philadelphia 1787
"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
George Washington
"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
Thomas Jefferson
"Such are a well regulated militia, composed of the freeholders, citizen and husbandman, who take up arms to preserve their property, as individuals, and their rights as freemen."
"M.T. Cicero" 1788
"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms."
Tench Coxe, June 18, 1789
"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that... it is their right and duty to be at all times armed."
Thomas Jefferson to John Cartwright, 1824
"The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword, because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any band of regular troops..."
Noah Webster, An Examination of The Leading Principles of the Federal Constitution, Philadelphia 1787
dr. freeze said:
Oh, good lord!
Not sure if you happened to catch the date on each of those 'history lessons' Freeze, but you might want a lesson of your own.
You see, America in the 17-1800's was a bit of a lawless place, where defending your honour and duals at 20 paces were considered public entertainment.....
...Look, I know a lot of people (most world leaders included) want the world we live in to be wound back 100 years, butr some of us actually see progress and 'enlightenment' (for want of a better word) as a good thing.
I'm not going to bother arguing, but if it makes you happy, then go ahead, carry a gun on your person at all times....Surely you're more likely to be attacked or assulted outside rather than inside your home.
Next time you get caught in the middle of a bar fight, pull out the ol' 6 shooter and clean those thugs up!
Next time you see an old lady get her hand bag snatched, no need to run after the guy, you're carrying a semi-automatic handgun.
And god help that nigger who dares enter your saloon! :cursin:
btw, I didn't ever say Ted Nugent was a spokeman for the NRA, but he was performing at an NRA 'rally', and given the rousing support from the crowd, I dare say you were the only one there who thought it was satirical! (Or even knew what it meant. lol!)
