Guys, I'd like some input, if you would

[Jackanape]

I'm just licking my chops over this +300 line on KC today. I know it's Santana, and I know it's Lima, so if the line's inflated, it's not by much.

The thing is, Lima's taken on a couple of tough lineups off the bat, in the Tigers--and every time you get the same cats twice in a week, it can be tough on the hurler--and Angels, while Santana's faced the Mariners, Indians, and WhiteSox.

KC's been hitting lefties this year, although Santana's no Mike Maroth. Minnesota on a 3 game skid, does KC really turn themselves around with this series?

The problem is KC's 6-13 in Minnesota the last 2 seasons, and 1-8 last year...?

I guess what I'd like to hear, is whether or not you think the value in +300 is worth taking a spin with KC? And why? I'm inclined to think it is, but I'm not exactly burning it up so far this season...

 

[888]

Im going with KC.. They have a good team, just way to young. Lima will have a great outing, and look for KC to win 3-2. GL

 

[Keith 1]

have to agree with 888 here. First of all, santana is great. That being said, he will lose again--and there will be a night when he just doesn't have his best stuff. THE WHOLE WORLD thought there was no way the devil rays could beat the Yankees last night. I cashed that baby at MORE THAN THREE TO ONE ODDS ! Everywhere you turn in the media, they are just now starting to talk up santana's winning streak. We all know what happens when the media starts talking up a winning streak. LIghtning strikes twice tonight, as another 3 to 1 doggie hits with the Royals !

 

[puckfan]

KC stinks, om parlaying Twins ML with Marlins ML

GL!

 

[Omie]

There is great value in KC, but if I were playing this game I would be on Twins -1.5, The Twins have lost a few in a row, and now they come home to play the happless Royals. This is what your ace is for. The twins need to get back on track, and that is what Santana is paid the big bucks for....Lean on Minnesota, but no play for me.

GL to all

 

[Ummagumma]

Omie beat me to it. Don't see the Twins losing their 4th straight in this spot....especially with the way Chicago is playing.

KC hitting .196 against Santana

Twins hitting .317 against Lima


No reason those numbers won't reverse themselves tonight, but I'm on the Twins RL.

 

[Jackanape]

Thanks, guys! I think the big difference between last night, and tonight--and I had the Rays last night, too! --is that the Yankees are falling down to their mid 80s form, where George traded their future away, and had to buy aging stars to try to field a winner. It didn't work then, either. They stink, and will only get worse. You just can't keep going at that rate, and expect to maintain a top level team.

The Twins ARE still a good team, though, although probably rated a little higher than they should be this season.

I think that's why I'm wondering about this play.

I will probably take it for value alone, but I'm still trying to weigh my options. :mj14:

 

[cooz3]

Jackanape....

WHAT ARE THE ODDS OF HITTING 2 THREE TO ONE DOGS IN TWO NIGHTS???...RIGHT OFF THE BAT I SAY SLIM...IS IT WORTH A SHOT ? MAYBE..

lIMA HAS BEEN GOD AWFUL THIS YEAR..ESPECIALLY EARLY IN GAMES..TWINS LINEUP IS NOT AS FORMIDABLE AS PREVIOS OPPONENTS HE FACED BUT THEY HAVE SOME DECENT AVERAGES AGAINST HIM...A FEW RUNS MAY BE ALL SANTANA NEEDS ....TAKE A LLOK AT HIS NUMBERS LAST YEAR AGAINST THIS TEAM...OUTSTANDING...AS STATED EARLIER THIS IS MINNY'S ACE AND HE IS SUPPOSE TO END LOSING STREAKS IF NEED BE...

ALL THAT BEING SAID ..A 3-1 DOG WOULD SEEM TO HAVE VALUE ON THE SURFACE ...FROM A STRAIGHT ODDS PERSPECTIVE KC CERTAINLY DOES..BUT WHEN YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE VARIABLES REGARDING THIS GAME IT SEEMS HIGHLY UNLIKELY THAT KC PULLS IT OFF...

OF COURSE THE SAME COULD BE SAID OF TAMPA LAST NIGHT...BUT YOU HAD A YANKS TEAM THAT IS CLEARLY STRUGGLING ..ESPECIALLY WITH ITS PITCHING AND ITS BULLPEN IS TERRIBLE...TONIGHT YOU HAVE SANTANA WHO HAS LOOKED SHAKY A FEW SPOTS BUT OVER ALL HAS BEEN VERY GOOD..ON TOP OF THAT YOU HAVE A MINNY BULLPEN THAT IS VERY GOOD (AND UNDER RATED) IMO...SO EVEN IF LIMA PITCHES WELL ...THE KC BULLPEN ..WHICH IS TERRIBLE AT TIMES CANNOT BE TRUSTED..

FURTHER...LAST NIGHT YOU HAD NOMO WITH THE RAYS..WHO AT TIMES WHEN HE IS FOCUSED AND HAS HIS "A" GAME CAN BE ALMOST UNHITTABLE....I SIMPLY CANNOT SAY THAT OF LIMA...

OF COURSE IM BY NO MEANS ANY AUTHORITY HERE...BUT YOU ASKED FOR OPINIONS AND I OFFERED MINE...

BEST OF LUCK WHATEVER YOU DECIDE...

COOZ

 

[vyrus858]

odds tell me Johnson -400 losing will not be followed by Santana losing at similar odds against a worst team. But that is just me. GL

 

[JIMMYBOY]

I AGREE WITH YOU VYRUS, SANTANA IS NOT LOOSING THIS GAME,

BY THE WAY GOOD LUCK TO YOU ON YOUR GAMES TONIGHT
WE ARE ON DIFFERENT PAGES TONIGHT SO DON`T WORRY ABOUT THE JINX LOL...... DID NOT MEAN TO SERIOUSLY

 

[vyrus858]

do not sweat it, I just meant it for everyone ...gl JB

 

[cooz3]

did you play it...?????

unreal 4-3 kc all the sudden

cooz

 

[lowell]

3 singles and a homerun for kc all with 2 outs. amazing

 

[Jackanape]

Starters still in, though, we all know bullpens make or break games...

Let's see what falls out! :clap:

 

[Jackanape]

And there you have it. Oh, well, at least we got our value by getting past Santana. I'd do it again in a heartbeat.

Just hope I win next time.