is anyone else a little surprised to see oswalt not only as a dog, but as a dog to a potental gas can like park? part of me thinks that vegas has no choice but to install texas as a favorite. but then part of me says park favored even a penny over oswalt is nuts. anyone see this the same way or differently?
i know houston is godawful on the road but ....
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its obvious Oswalt is the better pitcher. but we all know Houston cant hit worth a damn. Park is a gas can but Houston sucks like a Hoover.
If you like Texas -115 is the best price this series yet.
Even if Oswalt keeps texas bats off the ball eventually their funky bullpen will allow a few texas runs to break open a close game.
If you like Texas -115 is the best price this series yet.
Even if Oswalt keeps texas bats off the ball eventually their funky bullpen will allow a few texas runs to break open a close game.
gman2 said:
oswalt has been getting lit up...he isn't that great to begin with...but i'm sure u'll get ur crowd to follow ur service pick
any team that loses 3 games this early in the season with roger clemens on the bump all 1-0 losses deserves to be a dog every game ....especially against an offensive juggernaut like texas....if clemens was pitching sunday i'd be on texas as well....and if id bet texas against the rocket,id certaikly bet em against oswalt....oswalt hasnt been stellar so far....5-4 3.50 era says it all....fvckin guy gives up 3.5 runs a game and is 5-4....gimme a break....bottom line....houston stinks!!! cant score period and against a texas squad that crushes the ball,if sandy koufax isnt pitching for houston then i like texas alot....park is 3-1 5.32 era and texas is 6-2 in his starts....emphasis on the 5.32 era and the 6-2 record in his starts....throw in the fact that stros are a whopping 2-18 away from minute maid bucket....placing 12 cents on houston doesnt make sense....parks 3-1 5.32 era record might as well look like 25-3 1.25 era against an awful houston offense....good luck with whatever u play gman but putting cash on stros away from minute maid against a high powered offense like texas is not a great idea
mjalam:
youre crack would be funny....if it made any sense whatsoever. all 3 of your sentences are off base.
1) "oswalt has been getting lit up"
oswalt has allowed 2 runs or less in SEVEN of NINE starts.
2) "he isnt that great to begin with"
umm...he's coming off a 20-win season...is 68-31 for his career.. is allowing less than a hit an inning this year....i know youre just being a prick for the sake of being a prick, but cmon, at least be smart about it.
3) "im sure youll get your crowd to follow your service pick"
that would require me having a baseball service... apparently you missed the part where i said i dont even cap, and hardly bet, baseball.
thanks for being ignorant.
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its gravy:
thanks for the reply. texas does, however, have a lot of free swingers and oswalt could notch double-digt Ks. of course, that would up his pitch count and you may be right about the houston pen. outside of lidge, its vulnerable. i just cant justify park as a favorite. one pitcher is a model of consistency. the other is a model of inconsistency. but no doubt that texas certainly has a helluva lot more offensive firepower than houston.
gl
youre crack would be funny....if it made any sense whatsoever. all 3 of your sentences are off base.
1) "oswalt has been getting lit up"
oswalt has allowed 2 runs or less in SEVEN of NINE starts.
2) "he isnt that great to begin with"
umm...he's coming off a 20-win season...is 68-31 for his career.. is allowing less than a hit an inning this year....i know youre just being a prick for the sake of being a prick, but cmon, at least be smart about it.
3) "im sure youll get your crowd to follow your service pick"
that would require me having a baseball service... apparently you missed the part where i said i dont even cap, and hardly bet, baseball.
thanks for being ignorant.
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its gravy:
thanks for the reply. texas does, however, have a lot of free swingers and oswalt could notch double-digt Ks. of course, that would up his pitch count and you may be right about the houston pen. outside of lidge, its vulnerable. i just cant justify park as a favorite. one pitcher is a model of consistency. the other is a model of inconsistency. but no doubt that texas certainly has a helluva lot more offensive firepower than houston.
gl
lets eat:
good post. tough to argue most of whats included in it. only part i disagree with is that oswalt hasnt been great. hes gotten hit hard in 2 starts. and been borderline dominant in the other 7. but like you said, run support is non-existent for him and clemens. appreciate the insight though, as i respect your opinion
good post. tough to argue most of whats included in it. only part i disagree with is that oswalt hasnt been great. hes gotten hit hard in 2 starts. and been borderline dominant in the other 7. but like you said, run support is non-existent for him and clemens. appreciate the insight though, as i respect your opinion
gman- let me clarify....oswalt is a very good pitcher....my comment was "he hasnt been stellar so far" meaning he hasnt been untouchable like clemens and his 1.29 era....in addition i dont think he has been "great" either....now clemens? hes been great and stellar....just cant get past the fact that stros are 3-6 when the rocket pitches with his microscopic 1.29 era....i know clemens isnt pitching tomorrow but if the stros are 3-9 in his starts with that era then monkeys would have to fly out of my ass before i bet houston unless they were +250 or more....by the way,cant wait till ncaa foots starts up again and i can tail ur mac plays to get back all the loot i fvck off in the nba and ncaa hoops...lol....ncaa foots and mlb are the only 2 i do well in....i like betting tennis too but can get my head kicked in there as well from time to time....take care my friend
Gman..you mite be on target with this one.. I don't remember or at least it escapes me at the moment that i have ever seen a worse road team that The Astros.
something like a horrific 2-18 or whatever the hell it is. it is bad.
and Park being favored is nuts..but then again Houston is just that bad on the road.
HOUSTON's line-up looks pretty bad.
BANG THE UNDER 10 runs.
something like a horrific 2-18 or whatever the hell it is. it is bad.
and Park being favored is nuts..but then again Houston is just that bad on the road.
HOUSTON's line-up looks pretty bad.
BANG THE UNDER 10 runs.
DIDNT SEE YOUR POST BEFORE I WROTE MINE GMAN ... THIS GAME JUMPED OUT AT ME AS WELL!!!
ALL STATISTICS CERTAINLY POINT TO TEXAS BEING A BETTER TEAM ... THEY ARE !!!
BUT OSWALT IS A MUCH MUCH BETTER PITCHER THAN PARK ... NOT EVEN CLOSE...
I HAVE PUT 3 UNITS ON HOUSTON SO FAR IN SPITE OF ALL THE NEGATIVE STATS ... AND AGREE WITH PUJO ... BANG THE UNDER ...
WE MIGHT BE THE ONLY TWO IN THE WORLD ON HOUSTON TODAY :mj07: ... OH WELL I HAVE BEEN WRONG BEFORE :scared
GL ON YOUR/OUR PLAY :mj14:
PS. I WOULDNT LET ANYONE GET TO ME (MJWHATEVER) ... MAYBE HE IS A GREAT CAPPER ... MAYBE TEXAS WILL WIN ... MAYBE HE WAS TRYING TO CHEW GUM AND TYPE AT THE SAME TIME AND CANT HANDLE BOTH SO DIDNT EXPRESS HIMSELF IN THE KIND MANNER I AM CERTAIN HE USUALLY DOES :mj07:
ALL STATISTICS CERTAINLY POINT TO TEXAS BEING A BETTER TEAM ... THEY ARE !!!
BUT OSWALT IS A MUCH MUCH BETTER PITCHER THAN PARK ... NOT EVEN CLOSE...
I HAVE PUT 3 UNITS ON HOUSTON SO FAR IN SPITE OF ALL THE NEGATIVE STATS ... AND AGREE WITH PUJO ... BANG THE UNDER ...
WE MIGHT BE THE ONLY TWO IN THE WORLD ON HOUSTON TODAY :mj07: ... OH WELL I HAVE BEEN WRONG BEFORE :scared
GL ON YOUR/OUR PLAY :mj14:
PS. I WOULDNT LET ANYONE GET TO ME (MJWHATEVER) ... MAYBE HE IS A GREAT CAPPER ... MAYBE TEXAS WILL WIN ... MAYBE HE WAS TRYING TO CHEW GUM AND TYPE AT THE SAME TIME AND CANT HANDLE BOTH SO DIDNT EXPRESS HIMSELF IN THE KIND MANNER I AM CERTAIN HE USUALLY DOES :mj07:
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i just looked and this is the 3rd time this year OSWALT is a dog.
But if i remember, last year, he was rarely a dawg. rarely.
But if i remember, last year, he was rarely a dawg. rarely.
gman:
Just a few items that may be noteworthy:
It is warming up here in the metroplex (dallas) and is rather muggy. Every year when it warms up and gets humid the ball just jumps out of this park (yesterday a good example). Yes, Oswalt is the better starter, but this time of the year, it's kind of like betting the better road pitcher at Coors (it really doesn't mean that much). Of course you have Chan Ho working for you if you bet the Rangers and that's no bargain in this weather either. Have seen a number of people on the under which makes me wonder if the over is the right side.......
Lance Barksdale is behind the plate today; 6-1 to the home team so far this year...
good luck with whatever you decide to do today..rb
Just a few items that may be noteworthy:
It is warming up here in the metroplex (dallas) and is rather muggy. Every year when it warms up and gets humid the ball just jumps out of this park (yesterday a good example). Yes, Oswalt is the better starter, but this time of the year, it's kind of like betting the better road pitcher at Coors (it really doesn't mean that much). Of course you have Chan Ho working for you if you bet the Rangers and that's no bargain in this weather either. Have seen a number of people on the under which makes me wonder if the over is the right side.......
Lance Barksdale is behind the plate today; 6-1 to the home team so far this year...
good luck with whatever you decide to do today..rb
Houston is 2-18 on the road. You cannot make them favs. Just can't be done. Sure the pitching matchup is clearly in favour of Houston but that is just about the only edge Houston has. The batting lineup they send out is abysmal. Park is victimized by the long ball and his walks. Houston has virtually no sluggers. Berkman is their only true slugger and he is only days back from a long layoff.
Note that since 2003 Oswalt has an era of almost 4 on the road. In American League terms thats probably about a 4.50 era. Now at Texas it would only get worse where balls fly out with frequency. You could say he would likely have an era of 5 or slightly higher.
With the huge edge in the hitting department Texas has I would say this is close to a pk'em.
Note that since 2003 Oswalt has an era of almost 4 on the road. In American League terms thats probably about a 4.50 era. Now at Texas it would only get worse where balls fly out with frequency. You could say he would likely have an era of 5 or slightly higher.
With the huge edge in the hitting department Texas has I would say this is close to a pk'em.
