Drug Mule or Innocent??
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Biggest media beat up since "a dingo ate my baby". Everything points to her being guilty. Lots of stuff I have heard from very good sources (eg barristers close to federal police) but wouldnt want to mention here....suffice to say I think the judges got it right.
The other annoying issue is that if she was an ugly, fat, balding male slob, then nobody would give a shit.
The other annoying issue is that if she was an ugly, fat, balding male slob, then nobody would give a shit.
Ok SunTzu lets consider what evidence was presented and what was not. The evidence presented is that she was the owner of the bag that was not in her direct possesion for some time. They found 4.1 kilos of pot in it.
They disallowed testimony of their own Drug task force leader Colonel Bombang Sugiarto, who testified that the handling of the evidence was so negligent that they could not get any fingerprints off of it, including her own.
Testimony of a convicted drug smuggler in prison that testified he overheard a conversation of some individuals that stated they had planted the marijuana, yet upon refusing to name the name of the baggage worker at the Australian airport that planted the drugs he was returned to prison and his testimony disallowed. He was promptly stabbed the next day in his cell.
The baggage she checked was a board bag which was TAGGED AND WEIGHED prior to departure and weighed 3.8 lbs. However the judge ruled that this was not within the jurisdiction of the court to decide on the validity of the weight as it was not weighed in Bali.
Disallowed taped evidence by hidden camera of baggage handlers opening and going through bags at Aussie airport where there is a current investigation ongoing concerning a drug smuggling ring.
Testimony of her three traveling companions who stated that they were in her constant company when she packed the bag and rode with her to the airport. You see Sun, the judge ruled that they were not police officers like those that caught her and were, therefore, not as believable and promplty discounted the testimony.
Then lets move on to the fact that the judge spent more than two hours yelling at her while reading the verdict and the fact the prosecution wants to appeal and go for the death penalty.
These facts are not lost on the fact that a convicted muslim suicide bomber that ran a car into a cafe four and a half years ago in an attempt to become a martyr, only to have the bomb not go off is due to be released next month.
Yea your right dude, you really are stating the obvious thanks for the input.
FDC
They disallowed testimony of their own Drug task force leader Colonel Bombang Sugiarto, who testified that the handling of the evidence was so negligent that they could not get any fingerprints off of it, including her own.
Testimony of a convicted drug smuggler in prison that testified he overheard a conversation of some individuals that stated they had planted the marijuana, yet upon refusing to name the name of the baggage worker at the Australian airport that planted the drugs he was returned to prison and his testimony disallowed. He was promptly stabbed the next day in his cell.
The baggage she checked was a board bag which was TAGGED AND WEIGHED prior to departure and weighed 3.8 lbs. However the judge ruled that this was not within the jurisdiction of the court to decide on the validity of the weight as it was not weighed in Bali.
Disallowed taped evidence by hidden camera of baggage handlers opening and going through bags at Aussie airport where there is a current investigation ongoing concerning a drug smuggling ring.
Testimony of her three traveling companions who stated that they were in her constant company when she packed the bag and rode with her to the airport. You see Sun, the judge ruled that they were not police officers like those that caught her and were, therefore, not as believable and promplty discounted the testimony.
Then lets move on to the fact that the judge spent more than two hours yelling at her while reading the verdict and the fact the prosecution wants to appeal and go for the death penalty.
These facts are not lost on the fact that a convicted muslim suicide bomber that ran a car into a cafe four and a half years ago in an attempt to become a martyr, only to have the bomb not go off is due to be released next month.
Yea your right dude, you really are stating the obvious thanks for the input.
FDC
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Her boogey board bag was never weighed separately on departure FDC....thats just wrong.
It's so easy to say "Someone planted it there"...if you let go every criminal who said the above, then you might as well not bother at all. Fact is she was found with drugs in her bag. There was no evidence to suggest it was planted there at all...merely suggestion and rumour. The defence team NEVER put forward any creditable explanation for how the drugs got there.
Not to mention the fact that she resisted the customs officers efforts to open her bag, and then admitted the drugs were hers when asked.
DOnt get me wrong....I feel sorry for her. The sentence outweighs the crime, but she knew (or at least should have known) the punishment on offer when she went there.
And what some muslim suicide bomber has got to do with any of this is beyond me!
It's so easy to say "Someone planted it there"...if you let go every criminal who said the above, then you might as well not bother at all. Fact is she was found with drugs in her bag. There was no evidence to suggest it was planted there at all...merely suggestion and rumour. The defence team NEVER put forward any creditable explanation for how the drugs got there.
Not to mention the fact that she resisted the customs officers efforts to open her bag, and then admitted the drugs were hers when asked.
DOnt get me wrong....I feel sorry for her. The sentence outweighs the crime, but she knew (or at least should have known) the punishment on offer when she went there.
And what some muslim suicide bomber has got to do with any of this is beyond me!
As testified to by colonel Bambang Sugiarto the bag was most definitely weighed and you can read the transcripts if you wish won't argue with you. You're wrong but now worries.
A muslim suicide bomber getting 2 1/2 years and her 20 has everything to do with it, as justice is a system based on law, ethics, and many other things. I suggest that justice also includes punishment fitting the crime. I found nothing in the transcripts, nor anyone that testified that she resisted the opening of her bag. I am truly sorry I ever sent a friggin dime to that country in the form of relief. Societies are unfortunately judged by their actions and not their intent, and their actions are despicable.
A muslim suicide bomber getting 2 1/2 years and her 20 has everything to do with it, as justice is a system based on law, ethics, and many other things. I suggest that justice also includes punishment fitting the crime. I found nothing in the transcripts, nor anyone that testified that she resisted the opening of her bag. I am truly sorry I ever sent a friggin dime to that country in the form of relief. Societies are unfortunately judged by their actions and not their intent, and their actions are despicable.
Not to mention the fact that she resisted the customs officers efforts to open her bag, and then admitted the drugs were hers when asked.
Those professing her innoncence keep seeming to ignore these little details.
I do chuckle at some of the other "evidence." There isnt a court in the world that would have allowed the testimony of the imprisoned drug smuggler. And so what if there is tape of handlers going through baggage - just a hunch but the tape doesnt show anyone planting the drugs does it? And of course I am sure her best friends would have admitted if it were her drugs. How crazy of me to think there might be a bit of a credibility question there.
Those professing her innoncence keep seeming to ignore these little details.
I do chuckle at some of the other "evidence." There isnt a court in the world that would have allowed the testimony of the imprisoned drug smuggler. And so what if there is tape of handlers going through baggage - just a hunch but the tape doesnt show anyone planting the drugs does it? And of course I am sure her best friends would have admitted if it were her drugs. How crazy of me to think there might be a bit of a credibility question there.
fatdaddycool said:
It was weighed in Bali but not in Brisbane (my home) upon departure. Its been reported in the papers here thousands of times (ad nauseum in fact). Here's one report stating this fact, and there are many, many others if you wish to look.
"WEIGHT
Well, when people go to an airport their luggage is weighed.
If her boogie board bag was 4 kilos heavier in Bali than in Brisbane, it shows the drugs were probably put in after it was given to the airline.
Well they can't be sure because her bags weren't weighed separately."
http://www.abc.net.au/cgi-bin/commo...://www.abc.net.au/tv/btn/stories/s1328358.htm
I dont wish to be argumentative, but you did raise the issue and you are most definately in error.
And she did resist opening the bags(albeit mildly); its in the judges summary as well as in evidence from the customs officer. Again you are in error.
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Interesting point there - in Indonesia apparently it is her burden of proof. Even if she is innocent, she cant meet that burden. We might disagree with the system, but under their laws I am not sure the judges had much choice. She is lucky she didnt get the death penalty. Frankly, it is a bit arrogant of us to try and argue our justice system is superior.
Sun Tzu:
Any justice system that executes people for drug convictions is DEFINITELY inferior to ours.
Any justice system that executes people for drug convictions is DEFINITELY inferior to ours.
Innocent or guilty??....who knows?.....but no fingerprinting of the actual bag of weed is a real cock-up in my opinion. In most other countries this wouldn't have even made it to trial.
A lot of sh*t doesn't add up in this case. The difference in value of the drug in both countries is one. Proven illegal behaviour by our baggage handlers in recent times. No fingerprints. All adds up to 'reasonable doubt' in my book. Not in Indonesia.
20 years for hooch is just insane when convicted terrorists are getting less time in their prisons.
Phar lap.....I hope you are never a juror in any case against me!! You're a disgrace mate!!
A lot of sh*t doesn't add up in this case. The difference in value of the drug in both countries is one. Proven illegal behaviour by our baggage handlers in recent times. No fingerprints. All adds up to 'reasonable doubt' in my book. Not in Indonesia.
20 years for hooch is just insane when convicted terrorists are getting less time in their prisons.
Phar lap.....I hope you are never a juror in any case against me!! You're a disgrace mate!!
Actually "mate"...several journalists have tried to publish stories about how you can get more for that type of "grass" in Bali than you can here. The media outlets wouldnt publish it because it would diminsh the hysteria.
I couldnt be bothered answering anything else. Not worth my time. I've grown very weary of this rubbish.
btw...did you here the notice thats on Shapelle Corby's beauty shop down the Gold Coast....it reads "Back in 20".
I couldnt be bothered answering anything else. Not worth my time. I've grown very weary of this rubbish.
btw...did you here the notice thats on Shapelle Corby's beauty shop down the Gold Coast....it reads "Back in 20".
phar lap said:
Doesn't state anywhere "ad nauseum" where the bags were weighed only that they weren't weighed seperately, proves nothing. You see friend where I come from "not Brisbane" one is INNOCENT until PROVEN guilty beyond reasonable doubt. Belive what you want, there are questions surrounding ALL, I mean every bit, each and every tiny iota of evidence brought against her, all of it is shady, therefore there is reasonable doubt in my mind. Maybe I am not so eager to point my finger as others, I like a justice system to be exactly that.......on all fronts, justice and if you think that justice has been served by sentencing her to twenty years then I am never going to Brisbane. As far as me being "most definitaly" (I am sure you meant definitely) in error, and "again in error", is simply a matter of who you want to believe. I pose you this question, who has a greater history of lying or being deceitful, immigration officers in third world countries, or Miss Corby. I have an idea you look up the history on crooked law enforcement and I'll look into Corby. OK, I'm done, couldn't find any, what'd you find????
No problems? I guess we just disagree on these points.
Cheers mate,
FDC
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