Tyson threw fight?????

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Just heard JT the brick say he heard from a good source that Iron Mike may have thrown this fight.

I didnt check out other book but my line went from Tyson -800 early to -565 at fight time..........kine of makes you wonder???
 

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I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but if Tyson owes somewhere in the range of $40 million and he knows he isn't going to make that back in the ring what better way than to bet on his opponent and quit midway through.
 

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Not much on conspiracy either and not sure I give Tyson credit for being this smart--but with IRS and wife getting biggest chunk of this fight AND future fights--what alternative would he have to pocket some big bucks however laying off a large sum would be difficult with out relecting on odds--BUT possible with right connections?
 

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I would think if someone is going to throw a fight, they would probably during a round instead of quitting. Tyson isn't the smartest cat, but wouldn't he have some advice from others?
 

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umm how is he going to get out of a $40 million hole by throwing one fight against a nobody when noone was paying attention? he needed more fights - financially throwing the fight was his least profitable option. while I am all for conspiracy theories, especially in boxing, this one doesnt hold up
 

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yyz said:
Maybe Scott-Atlanta is Mike Tyson?
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You guys are forgetting about PPV and his take on that amount. I am almost sure its not included in the 5 million he gets for the fight.

figure 10 % of that....44.95 x 20 million viewers world wide. I think that comes to 9 billion and change.

Yeh I got Mikes cell # so I got the inside info
directly from him.

yyz - if i was mike i dont think i could type so good
 

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Off the radio....

Mike says he's broke. This is most likely his version of broke. He just purchased a mutli-million dollar house. I don't think he threw it. He'll most likely keep fighting. He's easy money for many. There isn't much of a selection.

I definitely see tv or at worst a few cable specials in his future. That diseased piece of crap from Motley Crue and ho-bag Hilton 1st come to mind. If the boy lover has a strong following, I'd be willing to bet Mike has at least the same number.

The movie of his life would be easily worth 50 to 100 mil alone IMO.
 

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Sun-Tzu - wise, as always.....

Scott - in another thread boxlox asked to contact me about a fight, you posted a reply advising him to "be careful";
care to explain the dangers inherent in him e-mailing me on a fight opinion?
 

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Tyson was and always be a street thug/hoodlum and rapist. That being said, I don't think he throws a fight. As much of an animal as he is, he actually has respect for the sport of boxing itself.
 

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Keith 1 said:
Tyson was and always be a street thug/hoodlum and rapist. That being said, I don't think he throws a fight. As much of an animal as he is, he actually has respect for the sport of boxing itself.

Respect huh..........first fighter I ever saw bite someone and try to break someones arm. Isnt respect suppose to include fighting the right way.
 

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Respect huh..........first fighter I ever saw bite someone and try to break someones arm. Isnt respect suppose to include fighting the right way.
true. I meant respect in his warped version of the word. Those are instances when the animal in him took over. Perhaps you are right though.
 

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Keith 1 said:
Tyson was and always be a street thug/hoodlum and rapist. That being said, I don't think he throws a fight. As much of an animal as he is, he actually has respect for the sport of boxing itself.
I don't see that Tyson has much respect for anything, including boxing.

As far as throwing the fight, I wouldn't put it past him.
 

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I thought about it and looking back at the fight Tyson did not have his game face on when he got in the ring. He might have a ton of respect for boxing but his advisor's know how to get paid. Not saying he threw it but if he needed to get out of money trouble taking the over and the man that was a 40-1 shot plus the PPV revenue might be something to ease the pain. Do I think he threw the fight, I have yet to see a Tyson fight in the past 10-15 years that hasn't left me saying what the hell happened. All that say it was just pure Irish power that handled the beast. A few shots in the dressing room and like any Irishman in the world with a little whiskey in him............ HE WAS READY TO FIGHT.

Cheers
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Like most things, this ? can be solved via simple math. To believe that Tyson would throw this for money you would have to belive he could get more from losing than winning. A win would have gotten him a title shot and much more $ than this past fight paid. So, to throw the fight he would have to be stupid.
OK, I'll grant ya - he IS stupid. But THAT stupid? I don't think so.
(then again, even WITH the loss he may STILL get a title fight, just like any other palooka used for an easy pay day for the paper champs of today).

Ya know how most betting scandals come about?
Ya know how collusions are discovered?
The books see anomalies.
There were none on this bout (not that I talk to every book, but enough to get a clear picture).
(side note - I did see a column elsewhere, titled 'books take a beating on Tyson fight' or some similar bit of nonsense; the article went on to explain how the books got killed, quoting, count 'em, ONE book; 'nuff said as to why I don't read most internet columns - no degree, talent or experience is necessary for one to claim themself a 'writer';)

There aren't enough books, in Vegas AND offshores, for Tyson to even make a scratch in his deficit.
AND he doesn't have much on-hand cash to wager with anway!

As Sun pointed out he stood to gain much more by winning, which would have most likely, in the screwy world of boxing, landed him a title shot AND a pay day that would have been at least double or triple last weeks, which is MUCH more than he could have gotten by spreading around wagers on last weeks bout.
 
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Sonny Palermo said:
Scott - in another thread boxlox asked to contact me about a fight, you posted a reply advising him to "be careful";
care to explain the dangers inherent in him e-mailing me on a fight opinion?
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Sonny

I don't know either of you but I thought the discussion was not about a fight but about him starting a service at some point.

Just know of people over the years that didn't think things through about when to do it, and it didn't go so well. I just think he needs more time. And besides I been cashing on some of his plays.

Nothing against you. You seem like a standup
guy.
 

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Sonny Palermo said:
Like most things, this ? can be solved via simple math.
You'd also have to believe that Mike can perform simple math. I have serious doubts about this. I think he could be talked into it. A cementhead like him, even with all the money that has come and gone in his life, probably still has very little concept of the difference between $4 million, $40 million, or $4 billion. It's all just "a lot" of money to a guy like that.

Not saying he threw the fight. But I don't think it would be hard to screw him over financially either, or trick him into believing throwing a fight here would be worth it. If he's already broke then he's already been screwed over more than once. Like, probably on a daily basis.
 

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"Like most things, this ? can be solved via simple math. To believe that Tyson would throw this for money you would have to belive he could get more from losing than winning. A win would have gotten him a title shot and much more $ than this past fight paid. So, to throw the fight he would have to be stupid."

Is the boxing talent that bad a win against this nobody gives em a shot at the title??
How many big paydays would Tyson need on pennys the $ to net a million--believe he got to keep $250,000 out of this?
When does the time finally come that even the most adamant Tyson fan quit paying to watch this bum?

Now via the math--IF he got 5 to 1 and put his entire purse "he got to keep" on the other guy how many future paydays would that make up for after wife and IRS take their portion?

"Tyson was paid $5 million for the fight, which was on the low end of purses he has made in his career. After his creditors got $2 million, the IRS got its cut and his ex-wife got $750,000, so there wasn't much left for the fighter.

Tyson still owes nearly $40 million and there were plans for him to fight up to seven times to pay off the debt. But those plans didn't include Tyson taking the kind of beating that McBride was beginning to administer to him in the fifth and sixth rounds."
 
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