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The only ones in the world who think Global Warming "needs further study" rather than action.

Well a major ice shelf just broke off from the Antarctic Continent. All scientists agree on the cause but that's okay...just keep voting for the Earth Rapists.
 

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Thanks

I will

The "earth rapists" are card carrying members of the "He-man Woman Haters Club"

Please be a little more over the top in your next post
 

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"just keep voting for the Earth Rapists."

Could you share with us who are not earth rapist?

Is this something thats been going on for just the past 5 years?

Which politicians are driving the compacts and using window fan at night?

Did you make that remark 10 years ago--if not--why not?

What is the alternative to burning fossil fuels if any?

I will be right with you if your agenda is stopping the destruction of rain forrest as it is unecessary- very destructive--and easy to accomplish with no adverse effect I can think of.
 

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That is preposterous. All scientists DO NOT agree. Many of the countries top scientists say the global warming frenzy is preposterous. Most of the predictions are based on computer models that have not proven accurate in the past. My friend has a copy of Time magazine from 1975 that warns about the possiblity of an upcoming Ice Age. The world has always go through temperature changes. W e have had several periods of very cold weather - did the oil companies cause those? Did the oil companies contribute the the demise of the dinosaur? Pollution from volcano eruptions causes more environmental damage than
any other source.
 

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All information on this issue is 50/50. After reading plenty from both sides, I do not believe that there is any sort of 'global warming' going on. And especially not to the extent that is espoused by the left.
 

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It is a fact that temperatures have risen. It is a fact that icecaps melt and sea levels rise because of the temperature rise. It is a fact that at least some of the "global warming" is due to increased carbon dioxide and depletion of ozone. It is a fact that human activity siince industrialization causes an increase in these gasses. It's a fact that skin cancer is the fastest growing form of cancer - and that could very well be due to less ozone protection of UV rays in the atmosphere.

All legitimate science agrees with these facts. But it's very debatable as the HOW MUCH warming is caused from our activity. We know we are part of the equation, but how significant of a part seems to vary with politics.

If we look at a billion year window, it really doesn't matter. But if we are concerned about the next 100 or so years, we better not be disregarding any of the research. Probably shouldn't be extremely alarmist, but it's flat out ignorant and short-sighted to simply throw it away as being some liberal rant or anti-capitalist agenda.
 
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Why is it any different for a conservative to say that it is not causing any global warming compared to a liberal screaming that the sky is falling due to the big corporate bullies?

IMO, both are wrong.

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Earth Rapist, Jr.
 

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smurphy said:
Probably shouldn't be extremely alarmist, but it's flat out ignorant and short-sighted to simply throw it away as being some liberal rant or anti-capitalist agenda.

I don't think it's a liberal rant, but I also don't think it's accurate to say that 'all legitimate science' agrees that there is harmful global warming happening.
 

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smurphy, thank you for stating the unpleasant truth. Actually, I've been ranting about this since George Sr was President and before that as Ronnie RayGun was beginning the dismantling of Environmental protections.

It is quite f'in simple nitwit IO and DTB: Easily we could mandate higher fuel efficiencies for the sake of NOT ONLY our environment but for our dependence on the MIDDLE EAST's OIL! DUH!

Kosar, I RESPECTFULLY disagree with you on this and concur with smurphy that NO legitimate science denies that we are impacting the atmosphere on a global scale though the EXACT magnitude may be in doubt. What is NOT in ANY doubt is the trend and the fact that it will accelerate rapidly as India and China start building their economies and all drivng cars.
 

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Notice how DTB has NO problem stopping the destruction of rain-forests in someone else's backyard as long as he doesn't have to sacrifice his Lincoln Navigator.
 

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Global warming is a hoax.

Propagandists attempt to send the economy into a recession or even a depression. Typical damn tree huggers.
 

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smurphy said:
It is a fact that temperatures have risen. It is a fact that icecaps melt and sea levels rise because of the temperature rise. It is a fact that at least some of the "global warming" is due to increased carbon dioxide and depletion of ozone. It is a fact that human activity siince industrialization causes an increase in these gasses. It's a fact that skin cancer is the fastest growing form of cancer - and that could very well be due to less ozone protection of UV rays in the atmosphere.

All legitimate science agrees with these facts. But it's very debatable as the HOW MUCH warming is caused from our activity. We know we are part of the equation, but how significant of a part seems to vary with politics.

If we look at a billion year window, it really doesn't matter. But if we are concerned about the next 100 or so years, we better not be disregarding any of the research. Probably shouldn't be extremely alarmist, but it's flat out ignorant and short-sighted to simply throw it away as being some liberal rant or anti-capitalist agenda.

"There is no global warming. Period."

"Anyone who tells you that scientific research shows warming trends -- be they teachers, newscasters, Congressmen, Senators, Vice Presidents, or Presidents -- is wrong," writes Tom DeWeese of the American Policy Center in a recent issue of his DeWeese Report. "There is," he insists, "no global warming."

DeWeese calls global warming "the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the people of the world, bar none. Those who have been fighting against the green agenda have been warning that modern-day environmentalism has nothing whatsoever to do with protecting the environment," he observes. "Rather, it is a political movement led by those who seek to control the world economies, dictate development, and redistribute the world's wealth."

DeWeese describes the relentless propaganda campaign that has been waged over the past couple of decades. "The American people have been assaulted from all directions by rabid environmentalists," he contends. "School children have been told that recycling is a matter of life and death. Businesses have been shut down. Valuable products like freon have been removed from the market. Chemicals and pesticides that helped to make this nation the safest and healthiest in the world are targeted for extinction."

DeWeese warns that the Climate Change Protocol is "a legally binding international treaty through which signing nations agree to cut back their energy emissions to 15 percent below 1990 levels." He insists that "it doesn't matter" if the final version is somewhat modified. "Such a massive disruption in the American economy, particularly since it has nothing to do with protecting the environment, will devastate this nation," DeWeese predicts. "To meet such drastically reduced energy standards will, in the short run, cost the United States over one million jobs."

DeWeese emphasizes that "only developed industrial nations will be bound by the treaty. Undeveloped Third World nations will be free to produce whatever they want. These will include China, India, Brazil, and Mexico," he observes, noting that "eighty-two percent of the projected emissions growth in coming years is from these countries." That fact alone proves that the Climate Change Treaty is not designed to protect the environment. "The truth, of course," says DeWeese, "is that the treaty is really about redistribution of wealth," from America to the rest of the world.

Remember when we were supposed to be frightened because the world was getting colder? When that fraud was exposed, we then were told to beware of global warming. More and more people are now recognizing that this too is nonsense. So, what dread prospect will the conjurors of calamity con us with next? Will they try to stampede us into global governance by warning that the temperature will remain constant? No, that's not scary enough. Probably, what they will do is try to convince us that the earth is getting colder and warmer, simultaneously. After all, some of us might like it colder, some might like it hotter, but nobody likes it both ways at the same time.
 

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Wilson drinks the GOP Kool-Aid.

You'll believe anything the GOP-backed "science" peddles won't you? Like tobacco company science - what a pathetic joke.

Hey, I'm not worried...I've made my preparations. They laughed at Noah in your Bible too.
 

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If it served their interests the Republican Machine would deny water is wet and Wilson would nod in agreement.
 

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I've got some disturbing news for you guys...

There is no Santa Claus and the Boogey Man is a myth.

Joe McCarthy is dead, fellas.
 

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Just because the Climate Change Protocol might be ridiculous, unequitable, and unpractical doesn't mean the science is all wrong.

We don't have to choose between all or nothing. There is probably something that eventually needs to be done, but that doesn't mean we have to abruptly ruin our economy and not enforce the same standards to all countries.

If we continue to lack forward-thinking policy makers, we are probably delaying eventual necessary changes, and only making them more drastic and disruptive when we finally decide we really do need them.
 

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Wilson - I've got some disturbing news for you:

W's Mind is a Myth. (However, Cheney's Sleaze Factor is not.)
 
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