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ndnfan

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Played 3 for today:


FLORIDA -128 (BURNETT VS GLAVINE LISTED)

BOSTON -213 (CLEMENT VS LILLY LISTED)

CLEVELAND +101 (SABATHIA VS LOPEZ LISTED)



Good luck to all :thumb:

-ndnfan
 

cooz3

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great run...and great season bro...congrats ..been on a little slide myself...

any particular reason on boston yonight?..Lilly has simply owned this team ..

best of luck

cooz
 

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cooz3 said:
any particular reason on boston yonight?..Lilly has simply owned this team ..

best of luck

cooz

Cooz3,

Not sure where you got your info. from...that Lilly has owned Boston (perhaps when Lilly is a home team I guess...it's a different story when he's away from home).

Here's what I got from CBS sportsline:

Clement has a 1.84 ERA in his last six starts at home, and is 6-0 in nine career outings at Fenway Park.

Toronto counters with Ted Lilly, who is 0-6 with an 8.35 ERA in seven starts on the road this season. He's never won in five career starts at Fenway, posting a 6.49 ERA."

Best of luck.
 

RexBudler

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Cooz3,

Not sure where you got your info. from...that Lilly has owned Boston (perhaps when Lilly is a home team I guess...it's a different story when he's away from home).

Here's what I got from CBS sportsline:

Clement has a 1.84 ERA in his last six starts at home, and is 6-0 in nine career outings at Fenway Park.

Toronto counters with Ted Lilly, who is 0-6 with an 8.35 ERA in seven starts on the road this season. He's never won in five career starts at Fenway, posting a 6.49 ERA."

Best of luck.

Lillys last 3 starts vs. Boston (including 2 this year):

20.2 IP
13 hits
2 ER

but you are right Fenway is a different place but his career era vs Boston in 12 starts is under 4
 

cooz3

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NFL2004fan....

you may want to check his stats against this current boston line-up...

in his lat three starts against boston ..including two starts this season he has pitched..approx 21 innings and given up 2 earned runs..further ..if you want to talk about over all stats ..his career numbers vs boston he has a 3.66 era ...pretty impressive in my book...moreover in his last 8 starts againt boston he has not given up more than 4 runs in any game...at plus $200 i would say that he is a nice dog with those numbers...you wont see many dogs at this price with those numbers against the opposition..

that being said i cant argue with your stats on his struggles at fenway...the park is tough on lefties ..in his last 4 starts at fenway however his numbers are great but they are not horrible either...

7 IP..4 earned runs
6 IP..2 earned runs
5 ip..4 eraned runs..
7 ip ..o earned runs...

so it may be his eraly career numbers that skew his numbers vs. boston...

further...take a look at bostons probable lin-up for tonight...vs Lilly
damon..242 BA
renteria.. 167 BA
ortiz..105 BA
manny.. 300 bA
millar..280 BA
v tech ..444BA
nixon or payton..nixon is batting 222 and payton is 333 ba in 8 at bats
muellar ..125 BA
bellhorn.. 214 BA

so you have some good numbers in manny..tech and payton..(i wouldnt trust millar for much)..and some terrible numbers vs. Lilly...

again im not arguing with your stats ..they are what they are...but if you look a little bit more you can see that in his most recent outings he has pretty much shut this team down...but again he has shown some weakness at fenway..

but i think as a 2-1 dog i needed to ask the question..

good luck

cooz
 

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sport stud....thx for noticing. Hopefully the run continues.


NFL, cooz, and Rex.......As always, I appreciate all your thoughts and all of you bring up some very good points about this game.

cooz brought up the Lilly-BoSox batter-pitcher matchups and rightly so when you look at more of the current guys on the team. As many know, I think this is probably the best tool to use when looking at the games and matching up stuff, but I also think it becomes less and less effective later in the season, and you're going to see this carry less and less weight for me as the season goes on. I'll try to explain some for those interested:

Pretty simple in theory...Because of all the adjustments being made by both pitchers and hitters and the film study, if a pitcher has faced a team at least twice in the current season, I think it's hard to guage who's going to have the upper hand.

The revenge factor(pitchers facing each other within the same week) works so well because the ones that struggled(pitching or hitting) have the upper hand in making the adjustments, while the ones that succeded aren't changing anything and are slow to the punch.

I could go on and on about this stuff, but will share my thoughts more at a later time. Bottom line, you're going to probably be seeing me using other situations in my capping later in the season than the stuff I used more earlier in the season. Basically just trying to adjust to what I think will work better. I've had a history of making a lot more early in the season and tailing off the 2nd half and I'm hoping with the stuff I'v done the last season or so will help with winning the whole year.

Good luck to you guys.
 
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