Who gets it next?

[fletcher]

Is it the US again or some other country who gets a few people with back packs on and blows them up? Along with many other people.

Today the 4 bombs were not all bad as I have watched one person on won't even give station credit because they are all bad in my eyes they make things to fit their needs. but no-way were 4 bombs bad they did just what they were made to do I am sure and that is we hit you 2 weeks ago and we can do it anytime we want.

Then on another station different side of the line more conservative they are saying they we probably just copy cats who did not know what they were doing yeah right if you believe that go ahead.

Can't believe no-one just like first attack has really said anything or shared their view's on this attack, guess if it is not your country it does not bother you?

Well I think we in the US will see it not to far down the road but think a few other places take a hit first to try and distance these countries from us and GB .

This is just IMO. But don't need to turn on 2 different stations who could not be more apart on things telling me bombs all 4 did not work right or was a copy cat like I said bs you don't have to kill people to put fear into them.

 

[djv]

Fletch as much as I hate to say it. I think we all know it's going to happen here again. I feel someday if there just going to nick us alittle it would happen sooner then later. It seems the longer they wait to try something the bigger it is. I hope it never happens but there seems to be more crazy folks in the world then I ever thought there was. And with wide open borders it sure is scary.

 

[smurphy]

Yeah, even if nobody was killed today, it had to put the fear factor up a few notches.

English Muslim leaders want a big study done on what's wrong with society in England for Muslims to feel so detached and discriminated to the point of joining terror groups. I can answer this question right now - IT'S BECAUSE THEY'RE MUSLIM. Drop the stupid-ass religion and you'll fit in very nicely.

Prince Naseem is no role model, children!

 

[Master Capper]

In a country as large as ours with such pourous borders it's only of matter of when the next attack will occur! The ports and borders of Canada and Mexico are wide open for movement in and out of the US and I don't believe any president no matter Republican or Democrat can completely seal off the borders although you have to wonder about why Bush has not done more about both the ports and the borders especially Mexico. I really believe that we have to do one of two things to make our country safer, 1) we must confront the countries that our financing and laundering the funds for terror this would include military interventions in Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates which have provided the largest funding for terror and have provided the largest percentages of terrorists. 2) The second alternative which would surely be attacked by civil rights groups is if we cannot profile and identify terrorists in our country then we need to start refusing admission to our country to any citizens from countries that we deem terror threats and if that doe not work then we have to look at deporting all immigrants that have come from countries that have sponsered terror. While we are wasting our efforts in Iraq new terror groups have been sprouting up throughout the world with new countries posing as terror threats such as Peru, Sri Lankia, Colombia, Phillipenes and Brazil all in the past few years have been identified as having terrorist training grounds with links to radical groups, so you can see the threat of terror is here to stay. bottom line is that we are wasting lives and money that could be used to combat terror at it's roots by wasting our time bogging ourselves down in a mess in a country that has not had any terrorists activities that can be documented in the past ten years and why some like to post here that all the terrorists are now in Iraq so we should be grateful that we have lured them into a snare and no new attacks have happened since Iraq, but this is just not true as I would feel safe to say that under 15% of the terrorists in the world are actually in Iraq as many of the attacks in Iraq are religiously motivated and are being committed by Iraqi citizens whom are then being classified as terrorists.

 

[fletcher]

Well looks like Egypt did. At least 62 dead at this point some news and middle east sites say 58 , either way it is up there and senseless waste of life.

I don't care how much i believe in something . I damn sure would not blow myself up to take out anything even a few million to be sent to my family, number 1 I would be dead and # 2 I am sure they the sick people who somehow brain wash these dumb-ass people to strap on a bomb pack will never see the money. and for the 48 or what ever number virgins await them, what happens if all their virgins are men what a shocker that would be.

I am quite sure virgins or non virgins you don't have sex in heaven,Once again IMO.

How can someone be so caught up in something they would blow them-self up just don't get that and don't think I ever will and how stupid are these bombers are they that easily brain washed to kill them-self by someone telling them this is there job. Must be already messed up in the head or very weak in the mind. Then you see their families talking on how good of a child or boy they are and were. news flash if they were so good they would not be blowing their brains up because some chicken shit radical leaders tell them this is their job.

Not to step on toes and hurt feelings if you are from middle east descent but I think a good many of these people are just not wrapped to tight in the dome.

I just don't get it maybe I am not supposed to who knows, but again IMO with just the last few weeks I have a feeling things are going to go down hill fast all over the place before they flatten out some.

Maybe I am just very dim and someone can explain to me how you could take a job as a young person or really any age that your told to wear this pack and blow yourself up in the middle of a crowd and we will take care of your family, I am sure they give family nothing , something else a few months ago or maybe longer when we did not have a human bomb going off somewhere else everyday, saw one father who was proud of his son for blowing himself up in Iraq, he was smiling and bragging about it. I know if I did that my dad would not show his face ever in his community.

I really think from pattern last few weeks we have lots more to come fast and many over next couple of months. Like a grand finally at the end of a fire works show. Hope I am wrong but just have a strange felling this is just the start of hit somewhere all around the world a few times a week.

 

[fletcher]

Also as this is going on has anyone been keeping up with china and how they are trying to buy up some us gas and oil compinies, now that sale or those sales better not happen , as they sit over there being quite before long they will run the world IMO or try and it will be because we let ourself get spead so thin and took all eyes off of them, hell they use their heads and buy up us land and compinies as well as other places when a company is in trouble or looking to make a buck, they take over with brains not bombs yet anyway.

Them trying to buy us gas and oil compinies is a real concern to me . hell i can name 3 colleges they have bought in last 20 years and changed the names and most students are from the far east now. 1 is salem university in wv where coach rod from wvu was a fb coach , it was the first one they bought got rid of football and rich was canned. They worry me because they use their minds and we sale them the land, or business.

 

[IntenseOperator]

I think the 1st British bomb detonations where done by British nationals that left and returned to execute the plan. I don't think any level of border security could have stopped that act.

 

[Marco]

Count me in with those in this thread who have already stated that it's only a matter of time before we are attacked again....

Too many legitimate targets to guard and too many people to guard against to honestly say that it won't happen.....not only are there muslims to guard against, but also the non-browns like McVeighs and the unabombers to guard against...

It's real easy to amass weapons or explosives in this country, all you have to do is have two legs and be in the country, more or less...

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"not only are there muslims to guard against, but also the non-browns like McVeighs and the unabombers to guard against..."

If it makes you feel any safer your chances 100,000 time greater you be killed driving thru projects at night than be victum of above.

Now I will agree there is no way to stop suicide bombers--the 64 thousand dollar question is since we are most hated why has everyone been hit but us since 911.

Maybe they prefer targets that don't retalite with such vengence?

 

[djv]

The one thing you said DTB that we never take time to understand. Why are we hated so much. To know this won't stop much. But if we can change minds of just a few and it helps save lives. Well we should be trying harder in this area. Guns just don't always win. As we have come to see the last 2000 years.

 

[Marco]

"Why has everyone but us been hit since 911?"

"Maybe they prefer targets that don't retaliate with such vengeance?"

Could it be our guard is up, and they're just waiting for us to go to sleep on security again, as was the case of 9/11?

There isn't much rust on a newly painted car, just give it some time.....

I guess the people of London can say "Glad we're fighting them there otherwise we'd be fighting them here".....How many died the other week during that bombing?

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"Why are we hated so much."

Maybe sticking our nose into everyones affairs without being invited is part of prob--but the have nots always have contempt for those that have. Muslims are recruiting very heavily in black population of prisons--they are very aware those with little hope and contempt for society in general are very easy targets.
The 2 primary traits of terrorist--Anger and nothing to lose

 

[smurphy]

There were 8 1/2 years inbetween WTC 1 and 9-11. 8 of those were unguarded Clinton years when liberal pansies ran the country.

So now the neocons want to take credit because it's been 4 years since we were hit under the watch of their hero?

I see no reason why the bad guys won't patiently wait another 4+ years to do anything. In the meantime, we are foolish to think our leaders have done anything to really make us safer, and even dumber to think "we brought the fight to them." As if our presence in Iraq prevents terrorists around the globe from planning and executiing another attack in America.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"In the meantime, we are foolish to think our leaders have done anything to really make us safer, and even dumber to think "we brought the fight to them."

Yep The Einsteins really know the effective route is to do nothing and instead of hunting UBL and terrorist--giving them free pass when caught is the effective measure--By all means don't have them on the run and hiding--they are much less effective when training openly--Right Smurph?

and I think you may have omitted the 200 +deaths in bombings of several of our embassys and ships during that time-for which-UBL claimed responsible for all--and what was our recourse--refer to above.

 

[smurphy]

Your right, I did omit the 200 deaths. You know why....because that's basically NOTHING. Incidiental if you will. Certainly pales in comparison to the 1700 killed by "terrorists" in the last 3 years.

Hunting UBL? .....Is that what Bush has been doing? Christ, he sure sucks at it.

Bottom line, are you saying we are doing better now at this than we were on Sep. 10th?

Are you also saying that we are doing better at this than if Clinton was in the place of Bush under the same scenario? Really, I just can't see how ANYONE could possibly be doing worse than Bush regarding this.

 

[Marco]

OBL is who knows where while we fight house to house in Iraq against people that probably wouldn't bother to leave the country to attack us, but fight us merely because of the occupation...

Yeah, I sure feel safer for all that! :mj07:

London is sure safer since we started fighting the hillbillies over there in Iraq.

Where was Osama at again? :mj07:

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"Are you also saying that we are doing better at this than if Clinton was in the place of Bush under the same scenario? Really, I just can't see how ANYONE could possibly be doing worse than Bush regarding this."

No Smurph-- as I stated before maybe Bill would have reacted same way as GW after 911 and maybe GW would have been as passive as Bill toward terrorism had there been no 911. We just don't know.

"Bottom line, are you saying we are doing better now at this than we were on Sep. 10th?"

ABSOLUTELY YES---unless one would prefer Saddam and Son's in power--taliban and UBL training openly in Afgan--Iraq and Afgan being ran by the preceding rather than the people--Lybia selling and developing weapons to terrorist--Yemin harboring terrorist instead of prosecuting them--and the same for Saudi and Pakistan.
While the entire middle east was an open training ground there is now no where on earth they train openly.

I can guarantee you the terrorist--UBL-Saddam and Son's sure liked the conditions on Sept 10th better.

 

[Marco]

It wouldn't have matter who was president on Sept 10th, given the security measures that were in place, or lack of them, that allowed the hijackers of 9/11 to operate as they did.....

The only way 9/11 could have been prevented was to install the security measures travellers have to face today......before 9/11 I sincerely doubt anyone imagined 4 passenger jets being taken over and turned into missiles like they were.....

The blame game is plain bull$hit because it could have happened on anyone's presidential watch going back decades, given the security lapses in place up until 9/11.

Christ it happened by accident during WWII to the Empire State building when that plane hit it flying in the fog....

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Agree Marco----I do have one nagging question that has always puzzeled me--and I know I'm going to catch hell for this---How does a handful of people armed only with box cutters, take over a jet that had to have at least 50 men minimum on board.

 

[Marco]

Taking a jet over that had a minimum of fifty men on board?

Once you control the cockpit and keep them out.....control that hallway and the door into the cockpit....

I'm guessing they didn't have control of the cockpit on the flight that crashed in PA....