Snapshot of USC's schedule

[DIRTY Diapers]

"There should be no argument that the "tough" road game at ND that you mention has cetainly lost some of its luster with the recent teams the Irish have fielded."

Judge - Ask Michigan the same thing last year and look what happened to them at ND. Rivalry games are completely different than other games. The atmosphere for the USC/ND game is unexplainable unless you have been there. With Weis at the helm and all of th offensive starters back for the Irish this game will be closer than you think.

 

[Sun Tzu]

On paper it shouldnt happen but I will bet what I posted back in January: ND plus DD at home and a unit on the ML, un;ess they are just godawful. Would be nice if Weiss would also break out the green jerseys.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

On paper it shouldnt happen but I will bet what I posted back in January: ND plus DD at home and a unit on the ML, un;ess they are just godawful. Would be nice if Weiss would also break out the green jerseys.

No green jerseys. Kiss of death.

Early lines I've seen have them +17 (+14 @ Michigan, too). ND's juniors and seniors have enough talent to go toe to toe with all but the Top 5-7 in the nation despite the lack of success lately, but I can't see them having a better showing against the Trojans unless there is a huge improvement in the defensive backs.

 

[ferdville]

Auburn "being the most dominating team in the land"

What land is that? Wonderland or Fantasy land?

 

[tulah]

USC's schedule is tough!!!

of the 6 road games (N.D, AriSt, Oregon ,Wash, Hawaii, & Cal)
IMO only 2 are 'locked' wins Wash & Hawaii.

USC plays Fresno St & UCLA I beleave both teams will be in the top 25.

 

[oldschoolcapper]

ferdville,

when you learn how to comprehend a whole sentence at the time, look at my post and then reply....week in and week out the most dominating team in the country. most years, when the team with the best defense in the nation goes undefeated they play for the national championship, and then most years they win the national championship. that's not fantasyland bud, that's the real world.

 

[ferdville]

Speaking of sentences, you have written one of the most egregious run on sentences ever posted here. Above and beyond that, you are simply such a homer that facts never enter in to any of your conclusions. I guess not everyone agreed with you last year. I guess they can't comprehend either. "most years" + "most years" + "most years" = wishful thinking land

 

[oldschoolcapper]

terdville,

i didn't know i had to be 100% grammatically correct for you. sorry, if that offended you.

come to think of it, i don't think i've ever seen you post any facts with your "conclusions". silly me, i thought if you knew anything about college football last year, i could type "#1 defense in the country" and you would know who i was talking about. i guess i gave you too much credit.

p.s. sorry i didn't capitalize anything for you professor.

 

[Scott4USC]

, i thought if you knew anything about college football last year, i could type "#1 defense in the country" and you would know who i was talking about. i guess i gave you too much credit.

I have a question for you. Why do you think Auburn had a better defense than USC? Maybe stat wise you could argue in AU's favor but that is skewed with the competition they played. I thought without a doubt AU had of if not the best defense in the country. But did AU have a better defense than USC? If you just talk coaching, I think it is safe to say USC had a better DC than AU and better position coaches than AU on defensive side of the ball. Agree? We all know how important coaching is. 2nd minor argument.

The USC defense shut down the OU offense. OU basically only scored 10pts against the USC defense and was shut out in the 3rd quarter. OU went on to score 9pts late in the 4th against 1st/2nd/ and 3rd stringers. So basically USC held OU to 10pts.

I don't anybody in the country would attempt to argue V-Tech having a better offense than OU. OU was LOADED on offense and very very balanced. NFL talkent all over the place. I think OU had a much better and more potent offense than V-Tech. Only scary thing about V-Tech offense is mobile QB. Hard to gameplan against that. On the flip side, Beamer is very conservative which makes it easier to defend.

AU against V-Tech shut them out for 3 quarters. Impressive. Then AU gave up 13pts in the 4th in a game where AU only had a 13pt lead and ended up winning by 3pts.

USC played V-Tech 1st game of the year @V-Tech and held V-Tech to 13pts. Now V-Tech and USC were completely different teams from day 1 vs bowl season. I think it is safe to say USC had much bigger improvement from game 1 to bowl season than V-Tech.

V-Tech threw for 299 yards against AU vs White throwing for 244 (some against 2nd/3rd stringers) against USC.

USC held Adrian Peterson to 82 yards rushing (some gained against scrubs late in game) I can show you many posts here in MJ's where posters predicted Peterson to rush for 200 yards against USC. Many thought Peterson would get over 100 against USC. With OU, you have to defend the pass and the run and USC did both with complete domination.

All I am trying to say, AU might have had the #1 defense in the country, but I can make a strong argument that you could easily put USC defense at #1. Especially with Pete Carroll as the DC. I am sure there are a # of people (maybe ferdville) who felt USC had the best defense in the country.

 

[Pujo21]

not knocking L.S.U. , but that schedule is pretty rigged for them. Appalachian State ?? North Texas ????

And only 4 road games ???

At least ARKANSAS has some balls and is playing U.S.C.

I really cannot respect a team that plays only 4 road games and has 2 pathetic games and another couple of pathatic teams in vandy and Miss st.

This is completely rigged in L.S.U.'s favor...7 home and 4 road ?? :mj07:

:bsflag :stfu:

 

[The Judge]

So basically USC held OU to 10pts.

What a load of crap. Last time I checked, the final score is what counts and that was 55-19, not 55-10.

Texas held the Sooners to 12 points; their lowest score of the season. Of course the Longhorns did not score any points in that game. :cursin:

 

[Scott4USC]

What a load of crap. Last time I checked, the final score is what counts and that was 55-19, not 55-10.

Really? Says who?

I don't see your argument. Lets use USC as an example. Pete Carroll plays his starting defense and USC is leading 55-10 through 3+ quarters. Now Carroll wants to insert 2nd and 3rd stringers into the game on defense. Now OU scores 9pts against this unit. Should the USC starting defense be penalized?

Everyone knows USC should have powerful offense this year. So I think it is safe to say USC will have some blowouts. Now in blowouts Carroll plays 2nd, 3rd, and even walk ons. Usually the opposing team scores on these units. Should that be a bad reflection on the starting defense? You would penalize the starting defense because you think the final score is what counts? Give me a break. I prefer to look into every situation and not base my opinion on a final score. IMO that is absurd. When USC is playing an opponent in a tight game, how many times did Carroll put the 2nd and 3rd string defense in? ZERO! In blowouts? Every time including the BCS NC game!

Guess my argument is a load of crap and we should judge only the final score "because that is what counts." So if Matt Leinart misses the first 4 games of the year and USC is only scoring 10pts in every game, but then Matt comes back for game 5 and USC scores 35pts, USC offense through 5 games would have a scoring average of only 15points per game. Based on your theory, USC would "not" have a potent offense coming into game 6 of the season because "the final score is what counts." Give me a break.

 

[Nickelback]

In Scott's defense, let's see how this looks at the end of the year. . . I believe Arizona State and Cal could very well be in the top 15 with Oregon in the top 25! LOL, laugh at me now but lets wait and see the top 25 just before the bowls. . . USC's schedule may not look so easy then.

 

[oldschoolcapper]

scott,

why is it safe to say southern cal had a better dc and better position coaches than auburn? that is your opinion, not a "factoid".

you can't discount what auburn did by saying they played weak competition, and then refuse to discount sc's numbers against their weak competition.

auburn gave up 147 points in 13 games last year. if i use your logic and take away ponts that were scored when the starters were not in the game, tds in the last minute and int. returns they only gave up 98 points in 13 games. now i am sure you are going to reply back and say sc gave up 97 points using this formula.

do you not think that vt was a better team at the end of the season than they were at the beginning??? you make excuses about sc struggling to beat them because it was their first game, but you act like vt was in mid-season stride.

oh boy, in less than 3 weeks we can start arguing about current games....and gambling on current games!


osc

 

[gman2]

if i use your logic and take away ponts that were scored when the starters were not in the game, tds in the last minute and int. returns they only gave up 98 points in 13 games. now i am sure you are going to reply back and say sc gave up 97 points using this formula.

:mj07:

 

[Scott4USC]

scott,

why is it safe to say southern cal had a better dc and better position coaches than auburn? that is your opinion, not a "factoid".

I never said it was a fact and everyone knows that it is a subjective opinion. But I think it is safe to say Pete Carroll is a better DC than whoever the hell is the DC at AU. I would love to see someone "attempt" to try and argue that the AU DC is better than Pete Carroll. FYI, Pete Carroll had #1 ranked defenses in the NFL while being a DC. One reason he got an opportunity to be a HC at such a young age in the NFL. The guy is a flat out genius on the defensive side of the ball. Everyone in the NFL and College respects him and always talks highly about him in terms of defense. But maybe the DC at AU has more credibility? I don't know. I do know that AU had an impressive defense last year. Maybe #1. However, I think Carroll is the #1 DC in CFB and I think many would agree. Of course there will be people who disagree. But Carroll def. should be ranked at the very least as a top 3 DC in CFB. Then again, I might be alone with that opinion as well.

you can't discount what auburn did by saying they played weak competition, and then refuse to discount sc's numbers against their weak competition.

I don't think you understood my argument. USC played tougher offenses last year and a tougher SOS. Therefore, I think the USC defense was more tested. Not saying AU defense was never tested. AU had easy games and so did USC.

auburn gave up 147 points in 13 games last year. if i use your logic and take away ponts that were scored when the starters were not in the game, tds in the last minute and int. returns they only gave up 98 points in 13 games. now i am sure you are going to reply back and say sc gave up 97 points using this formula.

AU flat out had a dominating defense. Maybe the #1 defense in the country. But I do not think it is a slam dunk argument that AU had a better defense than USC. Especially if you think USC has the better DC which I think they do by a landslide. You might be underestimating Pete Carroll as a DC. But as an AU fan you played USC twice.

do you not think that vt was a better team at the end of the season than they were at the beginning??? you make excuses about sc struggling to beat them because it was their first game, but you act like vt was in mid-season stride.

I think VT most definitely was a better team at the end of the season. I do know that USC made much greater improvements than V-Tech because USC had so much more upside. Mostly due to inexperience. Did u know that USC had no returning starters at WR, RB (misleading), FB, TE, and OL (only 1 starter) for that game against V-Tech. And that game was across country and was basically a home game for the hokies. (60k hokies 15k trojans)

oh boy, in less than 3 weeks we can start arguing about current games....and gambling on current games!

I do look forward to the season too. Good luck capping! I think I have some winners for week 1 that I feel real strong about.

 

[The Judge]

So basically USC held OU to 10pts.

What a load of crap.

Really? Says who?

Says anyone who can add.

Give me a break.

My sentiments exactly. Your schtick is wearing thin.