Bush threatens Iran

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Even though Bush is talking tough, I would tend to believe that this is a idle threat and Iran knows this because of the following reasons:


1. Due to the convoluted and twisted lies that were told by the administration to lead us into Iraq it is going to be much harder to gain public support for a attack on Iran as the administration has a credibility problem not only here but around the world. The sad thing is that next to Saudi Arabia, Iran is probably the most dangerous country to US interests in the middle east, but we spent our collateral on invading a country that had no links to terrorism abroad. It's a complete blunder that Bush wasted all of the good-will that we had after 9/11 from almost all of the countries in the world and if we would of actually decided to take on terror by going into Iran or Saudi Arabia the world more than likely would of been more supportive but instead we went into Iraq even though we had been told by most other countries that they had no links to terror and the information on WMD's was shaky at best.

2. We are stuck in Iraq for the foreseeable future and the situation in Iraq has been getting worse the longer we occupy the country contrary to what Dick Cheney states. It would be very difficult to invade another country with a large land mass that is more organized than Iraq with the current manpower that we have available since we will be forced to keep the staffing level pretty close to what they are in Iraq or rick losing the country to a civil war.

3. No way Iran's allies China and Russia would stand still and allow the US to have a free pass into a country that is one of their major trade partners. This would not be like Iraq where the country has been in a box for years and had very little contact with the outside world, as Iran has aligned itself with Russia and China for trade, scientific and medical purposes.

4. If you think Iraq now has alot of terrorists in it after we became occupiers, Iran would have tenfold that with skills much more evolved than what we are seeing in Iraq. Hezbollah is well staffed and organized inside Iran and it is widely regarded that they may be the most skilled terror group in the world at the present time.
 

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The president has the right idea..he just doesn't know how to do it..he is surrounded by a crook for a VP and a whole host of idiots giving him bad advice.

Now that he phucked up big time , we are subjected to a constant babble from him about this Mary Poppins stance of freeing IRAQ.

NOTICE how he has gotten away from his maniac stance on Social Security.. Somebody must have gotten to him and told him that he is sounding like a babbling buffoon.
How stupid can he be ? He has all this money for an incompetant war but no money for the Elderly when they retire !!

I AM WAITING FOR HIS NEXT LUNATIC CRUSADE

I have always believed in supporting our nation and president and that I shouldn't say anything negative in time of war. BUT THE FACT IS, IT'S THE TRUTH. THE MAN IS INCOMPETANT.
WE HAVE A NINNY RUNNING THE NATION and the Arabs know it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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Its not that easy. One sentence you talk about how social security is in chambles. oh wait. that means you agree with bush when he says we need to do something about it. He's been saying for MONTHS social security needs an Ovehaul. It was your beloved liberals that started that shithole socialist crap in the first place then blame the current president when he realizes it will fall apart. Oh yeah good idea, there!

Second. I'm tired of you bitchers and Whiners say that bush F'd up and that the war is in shambles. (cuz war is perfect, right class?) how is it in shambles. too many broad generalizations in here. He has all the money for an incompetent war? what the hell does that mean? which budget are we talking about?
dont post in here if you are going to spew forth such acrid generalizations with out explaing yourself! k? typical Ignorant isolationist. way to go! ;142loser:
 

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I think we can relax. Iran, Bush does nothing. Maybe some tough talk but not much more. Same with N Korea. Kuwait another big pussies. We might just start diverting all there gas to the U S. Like we should have done after the 91 war when we saved there ass.
 

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The people who are there in Iraq say Iraq is not in shambles....I trust them more than I trust the Madjacks liberals.

Every single day you guys complain about shit that you don't even have a clue about. THE CONTENT OF YOUR POSTS PROVE IT.

A July poll showed 78% of Iraqis feel that their country is going in the right direction. What does that tell you???
They also had a higher voter turn out % than we did. The soldiers describe a completely different Iraq than the liberal new media does. You guys are just morons for believing the anti-Bush news media instead of your own troops...WHO ARE THERE.

I trust the troops, not the liberal fingerpointers who are still throwing their post-election temper tantrums.
 

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Spibble ask your conservative friends that one. You should be shouting that one from your roof top.
 

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Nice response. You totally avoided the whole question.


DJV maybe you could show us some evidence that we are taking and using Iraqi oil.

I dare you.
 
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im sorry, he phucked up bigtime...in the very beginning this wasn't about free IRAQ.
He now knows that he phucked up and now its President Marry Poppins to rescue and free Iraq. I have to admit i am truly touched that Bush wants to coddle and free Iraq. :mj07

He has unlimited quantities of cash to carry on this Iraquian Farce.

FREE IRAQ FREE IRAQ FREE IRAQ.....yadda yadda yadda.....

who gives a flying phuck other than this warped presisdent. he is an idiot for bringing this mess upon us.

now..what act of stupidity is next.

BEFORE YOU BLAME PAST ADMINISTRAIONS--REMEMBER, IT WAS BUSH's RELENTLESS THIRST FOR ATTACKING IRAQ. HE WAS WARNED NOT TO DO THIS. This guy needs to put the phucking bourbon down and his candy.
We got an Alcoholic Brain phucking making a bollix of it all. :scared :rolleyes:

Iraq, whatta phucking bollix it turned out to be.
:cursin: :scared
 

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Answer Iraq before war export oil. Since war they import oil. There oil industry is half broken. About the time they almost get it fixed someone blows a few more holes in it. Or is that part of the lies being reported to.
 

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Pujo21 said:
Iraq, whatta phucking bollix it turned out to be.
:cursin: :scared

Too bad the people who ARE THERE IN IRAQ contradict your statement. Go ahead...lie and spread propoganda all you want though. You keep losing elections...gee I wonder why. It's because you liberals are anti-American.....you critisize our own country every single day. Hey by all maens KEEP IT UP THOUGH!!! It only makes your party look worse!!

:clap: GO HOWARD DEAN!!!!!

GO TED KENNEDY!!!! :mj14: GO P DIDDY!!

GO PELOSI!!!! GO MICHAEL MOORE!!! GO ROSIE O'DONNELL!!
 
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"You keep losing elections....gee I wonder why. It's because you liberals are anti-American....you critisize your country every single day."

The dems lose elections, but regardless what party wins, America still loses because the problems in our country don't get tackle or solved.

The government fails to balance a budget, the conservatives whine about welfare inside the US and yet they seem pefectly content on spending hundreds of billions on foreign countries. Money we don't have to give because our national debt is fast approaching $8 trillion dollars. The national credit card is maxxed out and our grandkids are going to get it handed to them. How thoughtful.

You guys want rebuilding of Iraq and schools to be built yet you fail to see a big fvcking hole in the ground at ground zero, where two World Trade Center buildings once stood.

Fact is the Iraqis have all the money they need via thier oil fields, considering we're not going to receive a red cent for expenses incurred during Gulf War I, ousting them from Kuwait. We won't receive any compensation for the removal of Saddam either. You guys like to point out what a great favor we did by taking him out of office. You cite the mass graves Saddam filled and how he skimmed all the oil proceeds to build mansions and stuff bank accounts, yet for doing such good deeds you blow hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars and leave like a habitual gambler, walking out of a casino penniless.

If we're providing such a great service for Iraq then charge them something for it. How many people in here can go to a car mechanic or have thier roof replaced on thier house and get away paying nothing?

I don't see any arabs or any other foreign country rushing or paying to rebuild two skyscrapers, and for that matter I don't see any foreign citizens paying my taxes or paying my living expenses. I pay my taxes and I pay my living expenses and I damn well expect foreigners to pay thier own.

Until the US government gets it's priorities straight, and starts putting America first, the anti-Americans will still be in Washington.
 

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An Iranian-backed network of insurgents in Iraq is responsible for a new type of lethal roadside bomb, part of plans by Tehran to influence its neighbor that began even before the U.S. invasion, Time magazine reported on Sunday.

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Citing a U.S. military intelligence document, the magazine said that over the past eight months, a network of insurgents led by a man named Abu Mustafa al-Sheibani had introduced bombs based on a design from the Iranian-backed Lebanese militia Hizbollah that can easily pierce battle tank armor.

The document estimated that al-Sheibani's team comprised 280 members divided into 17 bomb-making teams and death squads, Time said.

This appeared to be part of an Iranian plan for gaining influence in Iraq that began before the United States invaded in March 2003, Time said. Its investigation was based on documents smuggled from Iran and interviews with U.S., British and Iraqi intelligence officials, as well as an Iranian agent, armed dissidents and Iraqi militia and political allies.

Time cited an unnamed senior U.S. military official in Baghdad as saying one of the new bombs killed three British soldiers in Amarah last month.

"One suspects this would have to have a higher degree of approval (in Tehran)," it quoted the official as saying.

The United States believes Iran has arranged a pact between Iraqi Shi'ite militants and Hizbollah, and helped import sophisticated weapons that kill and wound U.S. and British troops, it quoted the official as saying.

Time also said it had documents that pointed to a role by forces attached to the Iranian Revolutionary Guard in controlling the cities of Kut and Amarah shortly after the invasion.

It also said coalition military officials believe Iranian-funded militias helped organize a mob attack in the southern township of Majarr al-Kabir in June 2003 that resulted in the execution of six British military police.

Time said it had Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps files that include substantial pay records from August 2004 that seem to show Iran was paying the salaries of at least 11,740 members of Iraq's Badr Corps militia group. However, it said, Badr Corps leader Hadi al-Amri has denied this was currently the case.

Time said Abu Hassan, a former Iraqi official and member of the armored corps of former leader Saddam Hussein, told it last summer that he was recruited by an Iranian agent in 2004 to provide the names and addresses of Interior Ministry officials in close contact with American military officers and liaisons.

It said Abu Hassan's Iranian handler wanted to know "who the Americans trusted and where they were" and asked him to find out if Abu Hassan could get someone into the office of then Prime Minister Iyad Allawi without being searched.

Allawi has told Time he believes Iranian agents plotted to assassinate him, the magazine said.

Western diplomats believe information they give to the new Iraqi government is probably shared with Tehran, Time said. "We have to think anything we tell or share with the Iraqi government ends up in Tehran," it quoted one envoy as saying.

The U.S. ambassador to Iraq, Zalmay Khalilzad replied to a question on Sunday by George Stephanopoulos of ABC News about Iranian influence by saying: "Well, I am concerned. I do not oppose good relations between Iraq and Iran. They are neighbors.

"But at the same time, there are Iranian activities that undermine the current system. There are weapons that come across the Iranian border. There are people that come across from the Iranian border into Iraq."
 

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MC our military say 50% of the insurgents come from Saudi. I wonder if we warned Saudi yet. Maybe we should just hold hands some more.
 

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DJV,

You know the answer to that question, as this administration will continue to turn a blind eye to-wards the main suppliers, financiers, and teaching of hate Saudi Arabia. It will take a new administration here in our country before we really get serious on taking on the problem of terror that is rooted in Saudi Arabia, Iran and Syria since the current administrations fixation on Iraq has really served very little purpose on battling the true terrorists that exist in the countries listed above. The countries listed above continue to this day to allow weapons and terrorists to go unchecked in and out of their borders into Iraq and this has created a terrorists training ground inside the country of Iraq where no links to terror against the US were evident before our invasion. At this point we are pretty powerless to stop these terrorists from coming in and out of the country at will and really have very little power to hold these countries accountable. Going into Iraq was a blunder on the war on terrorism and I believe if anything it has created more terrorists and while the grand scheme of things was a noble cause of creating a shining democracy in Iraq does anyone really think with the Sunni's, Shiite's and Kurds past history of deep hatred to-wards each other that a democracy would work, personally I cannot see that happening.
 

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MC you are correct. We can't expect to take care of Iraq's border when we cant even control our own. Our soldiers hands are being tied once again.
 
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