does anybody think this is plausible ?

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this is an e-mail that i just received & wanted to get my madjack friend's (you are my friends aren't you ?) thoughts.

i think it's plausible.


The Secret of Gaza

By David Frum
Posted: Wednesday, August 17, 2005

ARTICLES
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Publication Date: August 16, 2005
Why is Ariel Sharon evacuating Gaza?

It is not because he believes that a decent Palestinian state will emerge after the Israelis withdraw.

Nobody believes that.

The almost universal consensus among experts on the region is that post- occupation Gaza
will become a Mediterranean Somalia: an unstable failed state in which gangs compete for power and extremist Islam finds a sanctuary.

Nor was Sharon responding to international pressure.

His plan for unilateral evacuation surprised and displeased the United States and the European
countries.

They wanted Sharon to negotiate with Abbas.

They wanted the deal to involve all the Palestinian territories, not just Gaza.

And they wanted the whole thing to happen very, very slowly.

Israel?s strategic situation did not force Sharon?s hand:

Israel was more than capable of holding Gaza for years to come.

Domestic public opinion is not the explanation:

Sharon won Israel?s 2003 elections by opposing a
Gaza withdrawal.

So why, why, why?

Let me try a theory.

Israel is the victim of an organized international hypocrisy.

After the experience of the 1990s, few people retain any illusions about the likely character of any Palestinian state.

The Palestinian leadership is corrupt through and through.

The only effective opposition to that leadership is violent and extremist.

Palestinian public opinion utterly rejects coexistence with Israel.

A Palestinian state, whatever its borders, will wage terror war against Israel--and give sanctuary to Islamic extremists from around the world.

It will murder Israelis and threaten the security of Europeans and Americans.

European and American political leaders recognize this depressing fact.

But they also recognize that Palestine issue has excited passions throughout the
Muslim world--and among Muslim minorities in the West.

These leaders believe that if they want to quell Muslim extremism, they must be seen to work
toward the creation of a Palestinian state.

In Charles Dickens? novel David Copperfield there is a character who answers every request with a sigh:

Ah, if it were up to him, he would of course say
?yes? with pleasure--but his partner, Mr. Jorrocks, is so very difficult ?..

In just such a way, European and American political leaders favor a ?peace process? that moves the Palestinians ever closer to statehood, without ever quite reaching it; a process that positions the Israelis as the Mr. Jorrocks of the world.

Ariel Sharon has decided to put an end to this play.

The world wants a Palestinian state?

Very well--let them have it. And the result, as we are seeing, is something close to panic in the foreign ministries of the West.

Not just the West: the Middle East too.

The Egyptians do not want a Hamas state on their borders.

They had expected Ariel Sharon to place a cordon between Egypt and Gaza.

He has said he will not do so--that he is leaving the job up to the Egyptians.

And indeed last month Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz announced that 750 Egyptian
soldiers would soon arrive to replace the Israeli Defense Forces.

Is this Egyptian role on the border a precursor to a larger Egyptian role within Gaza?

Egypt after all remains far more vulnerable to Islamic extremist ideology than Israel.

The Egyptian authorities have crushed the
extremist movement within their borders.

Do they wish to see a jihadist state emerge on their borders?

It seems unlikely.

Could it be that Sharon is calling the bluff of Western governments and the Arab states?

By creating the very Palestinian state that those
governments and those states pretend to want but actually dread--Sharon is forcing
them to end their pretense and acknowledge the truth:

The Palestinian leadership is incapable of creating a state that can live at peace with anyone, not Israel, not the other Arab states, not Europe,
not the world.

Somebody else must govern the restless and violent Arab-majority territories west of the Jordan River.

Israel has suffered four decades of condemnation for doing the job.

Sharon is now resigning the task to anybody else who would like to step in and take over the job.

Nobody wants to.

But Egypt and Jordan may soon realize that they have no choice.

If there is a secret behind Sharon?s plan--that is it.

David Frum is a resident fellow at AEI.
 

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Yeah, maybe. If so, it's too bad he's sacrificing thousands of homes and many communities to make his point. ...Does anybody know what the compensation is for the displaced families by the way? I hope they are paid well and provided nice new homes. Pretty tough situation - they risk their lives and establish communities, only to be ripped away by their own government. Maybe it serves a larger purpose, but maybe not.

If ...or I should say WHEN Palestian extremists continue their terrorism, it will basically be a green light for Israel to run them off the map for good. Perhaps that's part of Sharon's plan too.

Either way, you gotta feel for the families.
 

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murph,

i think i heard that the displaced homeowners will be compensated anywhere from $150,000 - $400,000.
 

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AR you are correct on those amounts. And today we here most all have moved before today. Those seen on T V today we are told are demonstrators from out side Gaza. As for info above yes I see many things possible. I always believe in situations like this only a select few really know the deals that were made.
 

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Hmm I kinda like the logic behind this ...it was a surprise to me that Sharon did this ...... Blue moon time I am going to agree with Kosar and say its plausible as well .


Mark your calendars this may be that last you ever see this historical event !! no not Gaza silly ! I am agreeing with Kosar :clap:
 

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"A Palestinian state, whatever its borders, will wage terror war against Israel--and give sanctuary to Islamic extremists from around the world. "

the above statement is indeed an absolute--is perplexing why they are for it and rest of explanation is as good as any. Another thing is certain the Mossad and Isreal are the most competant and experienced nation on earth at fighting terrorism--Palestine has been VERY fortunate the U.S. and Europe have tied their hands for decades.--they might be giving us their version of "be careful what you wish for"
 

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great read,a.r....interesting...


if that`s the rationale,it`s a big-time gamble,imo....you`d have to logically assume that by giving up gaza,the israeli`s will get some reciprocation....some sort of good will from the radicals for trying to reach some accomodation...for offering a major olive branch....

but,the radicals in the arab world could give a whit about gaza...

actually...take a look at the palestinians...if these arab oil barons actually cared,they could improve the quality of life for palestinians immeasurably.....1,000 fold...

but,they don`t want to...they really don`t care...they like blaming israel for the palestinian`s plight....it`s convenient....

the israeli`s are their reason to exist...they need them....all the middle eastern countries use israel as their boogeyman...their rationale for bad behavior....

what`s also sad is that it won`t matter in anti-semitic europe(france/germany.the netherlands et al).....they hate the jews on a level that`s closely approaching ww2 extremism....

the israeli`s may be trying to make a point....but,they are preaching to the choir in the u.s...the rest could care less....

europe and "the rest" of the arab states could give a shit about gaza....they hate the jews.......it`s that simple....

they`ll be satisfied when a terrorist proxy parks a nuke up israel`s ass.....

giving back gaza will change nothing....maybe just bring home the point that terrorism pays.....

just as cutting and running from iraq will make the same point....

that`s not a defense of the war...it`s just a cold,hard fact....

capitulation or accomodation is seen as weakness...

if you can pull this up,watch this short video....
"a stab in the heart"....

with footage from palestinian t.v. and interviews with high-ranking israeli ex-military officials and politicians, the film analyzes the probable after-effects of the withdrawal—and the picture is not pretty.....


http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2676601?htv=12
 
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