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Adding 4 units Wisconsin over Bowling Green.

I am having a tough time deciding whether to play Wisconsin -2 -110 or Wiscy -1 -118. Do i go cheap and take -2 and save $200 juice if I lose? Wiscy -1 I am guaranteed of not losing my wager if Wiscy wins. It should be Wiscy -1 -130 but I am getting -118. So that is value. I'll place the actual wager later today.

Tough decision. I'll have a write-up later today to support my play. Interesting we see Wiscy fans here siding with BG and a BG fan siding with Wiscy. This Trojan is taking the Badgers BIG! :cool:

Am looking at these 3 plays but have not pulled the trigger yet.

Syracuse
Florida Int.
Middle TN St.

Looks like I got a $hit load of value with all my plays. Big line movements! I am happy I waited on Wiscy. Last week I almost took Wiscy -3 -120. Guess I lucked out.
 
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Grabbed Wisconsin -1 -118 over Bowling Green for 4 units. I got the line at mybookie. Betcris has Wiscy -2 -110.

Wisconsin :thumb:

This was a very easy bet to make. Only difficult thing was waiting weeks to put it in because I knew BG was going to get pounded which is exactly what happened. I was going to be happy with -3 but am ecstatic with -1. I still would have put 4 units at -3. Now here are the reasons why I love this play.

Big warning to those who are betting on BG. BG can't stop the rush, and Wisconsin has the will to pound the ball down a teams throats. Often in CFB coaches stray away from a gameplan. Wiscy will pound and wear down BG.

Wiscy lost a bunch of OL but not a problem. Wiscy is one of the best programs in producing lineman. That have a reputation of turning walk ons into NFL lineman. I am not worried. Especially against BG.

Before I go into detail, let it be known that Wisconsin is one of the most physical programs in the country. UGA HC Richt publicly commented after playing Wiscy that they were more physical than any of the teams he faced in the SEC. This is key when reading further.

Lets first look at the teams BG played last year where they went 9-3. I think people are forgetting this when touting BG and their "star" players.

@OU
SE Missouri St.
@Northern Ill.
@Temple
@Central Michigan
Ball St.
@Ohio
Eastern Michigan
Western Michigan
Marshall
@Toledo

Where does Wisconsin stack up against that competition? I do give BG credit for playing 6 road games and that is not easy. BG went 3-3 on the road. But just something to keep in the back of your mind along with Wiscy being a very physical program.

Bowling Green couldn't stop a rushing attack against teams from the MAC last year. :eek:

Wisconsin will be able to run the ball on the Falcons. :yup

The Falcons defense is exactly what it is, a MAC DEFENSE. Not a BIG 10 defense, not a BCS conf. defense. It is a MAC defense. They are extremely undersized. Specifically at DT and at LB. They might be mobile, but they def. are undersized. Lets not even talk about the Wiscy OL, the Wiscy FB is bigger than some of BG's DL. :scared

On top of that, BG is not a deep team. HUGE HUGE CONCERN!!!!!

Wisconsin is going to pound the ball down their throat and it is going to be HOT on the field. The BG defense who has a poor rush defense to start with, will be worn down by the combination of Wiscy OL and heat. It will be at least 80 + degrees. We are talking about 7-8min. Wisconsin drives.

Wisconsin has 2 solid RB's and I am excited to see Coulhoun. He will be important in this game. He is sorta like a Reggie Bush. He has very good hands. To offset their size advantage to try and take advantage of the inexperienced OL of wiscy, BG will be blitzing. Wiscy now has the option to dump the ball off to Coulhoun who has tremendous breakaway speed. It is a killer option! A good OC will take advantage of this and Wiscy has a good OC.

2nd, BG will be starting a true freshman at DB. :scared If this guy was a 5-star recruit (which he isn't) he still would be in trouble making his first start!

BG will be blitzing and crowding the line all day to help offset the size advantage and weak rush defense they havev. The safetys will be coming up to the line all day. People might not realize this but Wiscy has 3-4 solid WR's. Wiscy will be taking shots downfield and this freshman DB is going to get lit up. Especially with BG crowding the LOS. Expect big plays!

WR's WIlliams, Daniels and Orr are a solid group and Orr can really stretch the field. QB Stocco isn't an elite QB but he is not asked to put this team on his back. He is talented and I thinK Wiscy will get much better QB play this year from him. All he has to do is complete a few passes to open WR's because the Wiscy WR's will be open if BG crowds the LOS. BG secondary is not talented enough to shut down the Wiscy WR's especially the starting freshman DB. Not going to happen! If BG can't crowd the scrimmage because of the passing threat of Wiscy, they are TOAST! They will not be able to shut down the rushing game.

On defense Wiscy lost all their talented DL. Not good as I really value a strong and experienced DL. The good news is Wisconsin has a strong LB unit and that should be enough to "slow" down Omar Jacobs.

I think Wisconsin will be a very profitable team to bet on this year. They are a program who excels when there are no expectations but as soon as you have high expectations they somewhat let you down. I predict big upsets this year from this Wisconsin team and most likely will be backing them up on some juicy ML's. I sorta compare Wiscy to V-Tech. Last year not many expectations for V-Tech and look what they accomplished. Prior to USC playing V-Tech, many posters on MJ's kept telling me they were at best a 6th place team in the ACC. Bla bla bla. Put high expectations on V-Tech, and they often don't live up to them. I see that kind of season for Wisconsin and everyone knows this is Barry's last season with them. He will go out with a bang. Not going to win the Big 10 title, but will field a very competitive team who will pull off at least 1 major upset. Bank on it!

*As a bonus, I have some nice trends that support my play. If you are even having doubts! :)

BG is 3-12 ATS away vs opponents with a .500 winning %. We don't know Wiscy's winning % but I am confident they are better than a .500 team. :)

Wisconsin is 21-8 ATS when they play against a good team. Good team meaning a 60-75% winning %. I believe the vast majority feel BG will be a good team. :)

GO BADGERS!

FYI, 1st post in this thread has all my plays listed for week 1.
 
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dont really have a strong on either wisky or bg because you can certainly make a case for both sides.

but as far as the rushing defense goes, youre right, bg isnt particular stout up front. but the bowl game against memphis was a perfect example of how this team just has the ability to outscore their defensive shortcomings.

the heat is a non-issue. if youve ever been to bowling green during the summer or early fall, you will find that it feels like a trillion degrees because its in a small town and out in the wide open area, so those guys are used to it.

as far as bowling green's 'star power', i can assure you that it doesnt matter if jacobs were playing against division II teams all season -- he could find his way on the field at pretty much any program in the country. meyer did a great job of selling him on bowling green. the same goes for charles sharon. these are guys meyer plucked out of the state of florida to come to bg. they talent they have on offense is as good as youll find on any d-1 roster. so to imply that the "competition makes jacobs, sharon, and the others good" is just nuts.

now where i do agree with you is the depth on defense. offensive depth is a non-issue. bg has all kinds of talent and depth on offense. but defense is where it gets dicey, and thats why im layin off bg here. wisky should be able to win the battle on the line of scrimmage against the smaller bg defense.

but the bg offense is so good that they should be able to hang around even with wisky having a good day rushing.

this is just a real tough game altogether. best of luck with the play. frankly, betting 6 units against bg is nuts given how explosive their offense is. i see some fundamental reasons for your wisky play, no doubt, but 6 units is a bit surprising considering how many better games there are on the board.
 

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Adding 3 units Memphis/Ole Miss Under 52 -125 (pinny)

This play was hit hard last night. Total was Under 52.5. Now it is 50 or 51 most places. I got great value on all my week 1 plays except this one. :cursin:
 
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Thanks for your input gman2.

gman2 said:
the heat is a non-issue. if youve ever been to bowling green during the summer or early fall, you will find that it feels like a trillion degrees because its in a small town and out in the wide open area, so those guys are used to it..

I strongly disagree. BG will not wear down solely because of the heat but rather with the combination of HEAT, PHYSICAL PLAY OF WISCY, SIZE ADVANTAGE OF WISCY, and LACK OF DEPTH! All combined into 1 is not good for BG. Heat alone prob. will not wear them down (as you said they are used to it) but Wiscy with the combination of heat will.

as far as bowling green's 'star power', i can assure you that it doesnt matter if jacobs were playing against division II teams all season -- he could find his way on the field at pretty much any program in the country. meyer did a great job of selling him on bowling green. the same goes for charles sharon. these are guys meyer plucked out of the state of florida to come to bg. they talent they have on offense is as good as youll find on any d-1 roster. so to imply that the "competition makes jacobs, sharon, and the others good" is just nuts.

I agree BG has star power and an explosive offense. But I was merely pointing out a fact that they do not play stiff competition. That def. skews their production. I think that is a reason $$$ is going onto BG. People are not stepping back and taking a look at who BG played last year.

wisky should be able to win the battle on the line of scrimmage against the smaller bg defense.

:clap: Glad you agree!

but the bg offense is so good that they should be able to hang around even with wisky having a good day rushing.

Wiscy offense can keep the BG offense out of rhythm and off the field. However, I do realize there is a small chance BG jumps on Wiscy early and then I will be in trouble. Big trouble. That def. is a possibility. Prob. the one thing from me making it a 7-10 unit play. But good thing is I am only asking Wiscy to win, not cover a big #.

BTW, I have 4 units but 4 units is a big bet for me. I feel very strong about this game. BG has no idea what they are getting themselves into playing @Wiscy and the physical play of a Barry Alvarez team. What makes me so confident is its no secret BG has a weak and undersized rush defense with no depth.
 

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Adding 2 units Tulsa +17 over Minny (betcris)

Got my late night game covered! :)

Way to many pts. Minny should win by 7-10pts.
 

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You may be right and I may be crazy, but Minny loves to blow out shitty teams early and act like they are contenders for the Big Ten only to....well we all know what happens then. I think they run all over them and dominate but we will see.

GL! :)
 

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Adding 2 units Oregon 2h -5 (badlands)

Going for a sweet middle! :mj09:
 

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Spalding said:
You may be right and I may be crazy, but Minny loves to blow out shitty teams early and act like they are contenders for the Big Ten only to....well we all know what happens then. I think they run all over them and dominate but we will see.

GL! :)

Minny will win but not cover. Tulsa is an experienced team and I am biased to their HC! :)

17 is way too "minny" pts.

But you are right that Minny loves to beat up on the little guys. That is def. a concern. But tonight Idaho is an experienced team who will play hard from start to finish on national televised TV. This is a big deal for the Idaho program and they will be pumped.

Thanks for the post and warning!

GO OREGON (win by 2-9pts)
GO HOUSTON (lose by 2-9pts)
GO TULSA (lose by 16 or less)

Could be a huge night! :)

EDIT, I got my data mixed up. :mj07:
 
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Scott4USC said:
Minny will win but not cover. Idaho is an experienced team and I am biased to their HC! :)

ah jeez. im not even gonna say anything. but youre askin for it, lol.
 

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ah jeez. im not even gonna say anything. but youre askin for it, lol.

:mj07:

Was wondering if someone would catch it. But Holt is an excellent coach and did good job year 1 @Idaho. I am confident in his team to not lose by 18+.
 

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Scott4USC said:
Added 3 units to NC ST. +6 -120 at BETCRIS. I bought the half since I got -105 at Pinny at +5.5 odds. Unfortunately the line seems to be going in a downward trend so had to jump on it now. This will be my biggest wager of week 1. I think I was lucky to get +5.5 because most places have it at 5 and it might even go further down. Little upset as I was hoping the line would go to +6 -105 or -110. Oh well. Seems like the lines are all going against my picks. At least I won't be kicking myself for waiting. Glad I got them in when I did. I only lost value on NC ST. as it was +6 at one pt. and then I was hoping for it to go to +6.5 then I would buy 1/2.

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I think Houston will be real competitive against Oregon especialy at home. It is a lot to ask for Oregon to travel to Houston and win by double digits for the 1st game of the year. Oregon also will be installing a new offensive system. 10pts should be enough for the cover.

hawkeye

I like your UAB play. I think you have a winner with Ohio. :)

Well,traveling or no traveling...
Oregon got it done,made it look easy
in the 2nd half.
Houston will be horrible again this season
No defense what so ever..

Good luck this season :)
 

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Gotta love 159 yards on 8 carries for Maroney....in the FIRST QUARTER! Unbelievable. If they could win 9 games he would have a real shot at the Heisman. But since they will only win 6 he will be an afterthought.
 

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Well,traveling or no traveling...
Oregon got it done,made it look easy
in the 2nd half.
Houston will be horrible again this season
No defense what so ever..

Good luck this season :)

Oregon was down 4pts at halftime and Houston took opening drive and threw INT. 2nd Houston possession they drove ball all the way down to Oregon 7 yard line and came up empty on 4 downs. Houston not only should have covered, they possibly could have won if they executed.

Oregon defense played exactly the way I thought. Houston just didn't execute well enough to cover the spread. It was easily there for the taking.

Oregon has exceptional talent on offense and that along with their depth proved to be too much for Houston. If Oregon gets their offense to run smoothly, they can beat USC! *If USC offense isn't clicking.

I still think Houston was the right side. I ended up just losing vig because I took Oregon 2h 2 units for sweet middle opportunity. I was fawking 25 yards short of winning 2 units. Damn. Not my night.

Spalding

My Tulsa bet isn't looking good but 9min. into 2q they are technically covering. :)

Maroney is playing like the stud he is. I did not think he would be this effective. Otherwise this would be a tight game.
 
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No way in hell Houston should have or could have covered. It doesn't matter what the score was in the first half, oregon ran all over them and then took it easy in the 2nd while Houston was worn down.
Oregon had 6 freaking fg attempts, the 1st one they were at the 5 yd line, one from the 12 yd line and one from the 7 yd line. They had several oppurtunities where they should have been leading at half but they just couldn't put it in and had to kick a fg.

You could tell when they came out in the 3rd quarter it was no competion.

Oregon outgained them in yds and scored 8 times to their 4, no way in hell was Houston ever going to cover this game.
 

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No way in hell Houston should have or could have covered. It doesn't matter what the score was in the first half, oregon ran all over them and then took it easy in the 2nd while Houston was worn down.
Oregon had 6 freaking fg attempts, the 1st one they were at the 5 yd line, one from the 12 yd line and one from the 7 yd line. They had several oppurtunities where they should have been leading at half but they just couldn't put it in and had to kick a fg.

You could tell when they came out in the 3rd quarter it was no competion.

Oregon outgained them in yds and scored 8 times to their 4, no way in hell was Houston ever going to cover this game.

I disagree.

#1 Houston was up 21-17 at the half. Houston was +10 underdogs (for me)

Houston received kick to start 2h and was driving until Kolb threw an INT at around 50. This is a lack of execution. Bad play. Oregon got a FG out of it but were still down 21-20.

Houston took the ball and drove it the entire length of field and came up short on 4 downs at Oregon 7 yard line. This is an example of lack of execution.

That killed Houston. Lets say Houston scored a TD on that drive (which they prob. would 8/10 times), the score would be 28-20 UH lead and Houston are 10pt dogs. A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT BALL GAME! Give me a break. Houston easily could have covered that game. They didn't execute and lost momentum and then lost by 14pts.

Yes Oregon laid off at the end. But if Houston was up 28-20, you would have seen a completely different Houston team. I think Houston "might" have even pulled an upset. Take away the INT first possession of 3q and if Houston scored on their 2nd possession, (which both would have happened if Houston executed) Houston would be up 28-17!!!!!!!! Not only should have Houston covered, they might have won if they executed. They didn't, and when you are an underdog and blow up easy opportunities, YOU LOSE!

All in all, Oregon covered because Houston didn't execute. Oregon won the game because they have better talent and depth.

Houston is a good team! Watch out for them this year. Although I think their #1 LB got hurt in game. Dunno how serious. Depth is major concern for this team but their starters are good.
 
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Houston has no D. Their O is capable of exploding but against better D's , they can be contained. I like Kolb but despiter HC Briles' scheming, there isn't enough talent surrounding him.

UO's WR Finley looks like the real deal. I think the O will get better as the season progresses. There may not be any hope for the secondary however.
 

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1-2 tonight :mad:
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Not the way I wanted to start the season but I expect a big weekend. I am confident I will get at least 2/3 of my 3 big plays, BYU, NC ST. and Wisconsin. It is important to win your big plays. Especially beginning of the year so you play with season profits. Not fun to start off in the red.

hm23

I agree. The game went pretty much the way I expected it too. Although I predicted a 7pt win for Oregon and unfortunately didn't get it. What really impressed me was the Oregon WR's. What an awesome group. Not many programs in the country have a better WR corps than Oregon. Finely looks to be the real deal. Thick/strong WR too. That RB Stewart reminds me a lot of Lendale White at USC. Scary!

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I hope your team comes through! Glad to see you on them.
 

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Just an FYI to anybody who has followed my plays or specifically my play on UCLA -7. I am going to buy it back. Fortunately for me I will get a nice middle opportunity. Especially if the line gets to SDSU +10. So I am going to wait and see what I can get. Didn't want to post last min. saying I bought it back. That wouldn't be right to anyone who followed my plays.

Reasons I am buying it back are simple. UCLA has suffered huge injury to their best DT Kevin Brown. We all know Bruins were not very good against run last year. That sucked. UCLA practices have not been stellar. I am not sure how this team is going to come out. I have been told the UCLA WR's are underachieving and fail to get separation. All in all, UCLA has suffered multiple injuries in the last 3weeks but major one is Kevin Brown.

On the flip side, SDSU has been getting great vibes out of practice. They have super talented RB Hamilton and I have bad feeling SDSU will be able to run it up the gut despite the UCLA stud LB's.

This is the only play I was waivering on and finally decided to buy it back and lucky for me I get a small middle opportunity. I originally got UCLA -7 and for some reason they are getting pounded. Not going to risk 2 units hoping they cover. Whenever I make a play, I expect the team to cover.

*Got a quick question. Does anyone know if Pinnacle has that option where you can buy pts "both" ways? For example SDSU right now is +9.5. Can I buy it to +9, +8.5, or +8 etc???? I remember they used to have that option. I have no clue how to get it if they do indeed still have it. Really appreciate it if anyone can answer this.

**I added to my already huge USC future wagers. I took USC more to win it all few days ago and I just put in 3,000.00 to win 6,960.00 on USC winning OVER 11.5 games. Got +232. Stupid me, OLYMPIC has that same wager at +240 odds but $500 max. I sorta screwed up there not shopping around. But this is it for me for futures. I'll have no regrets if I win it. Not gonna kick myself for not betting more. :) But what happens if I lose! :scared
 
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