what do you reckon i think hell no i mean whats wrong with them i can not understand how a man can like another man lol but letting them tie the not is just encorouging other attantion seekers to do it. I dunno but I dont beleive in it I beleive it is between a guy and a chick thats all.
Gay marriges should they be legal? pfft no way
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With all that is going on now in this country: the war, the gasoline prices, the N.O. levies breaking, and the economy edging for who knows what, the really important thing is to keep these fags from marrying each other. That would really be a disaster.
You're right JC....
There appears to be a bit of a dilemma....If there was a flag on fire in New Orleans, do you let it burn or disgrace it further by setting it on the ground/water, and put the fire out?
I think a session of Congress should be called to discuss this matter pronto.
Gas prices and the economy, and all the other issues that REALLY matter, can wait.
There appears to be a bit of a dilemma....If there was a flag on fire in New Orleans, do you let it burn or disgrace it further by setting it on the ground/water, and put the fire out?
I think a session of Congress should be called to discuss this matter pronto.
Gas prices and the economy, and all the other issues that REALLY matter, can wait.
Yep I only post from work at least most of the time. I find it very funny you talk in terms of School days how old are you Lux ?
Also my stance on this is "I dont care" ...In fact I see nothing wrong with giving gay couples the same tax rights as married couples . When I become "Supreme Ruler of the World " Dimpled Chad (aka Kosar ) will die of a heart attack , and the word marriage will be removed from Law and in its place will be "Civil Unions " Marriage is a religious term and the churches should decide who they want to marry and who they don't .
Also my stance on this is "I dont care" ...In fact I see nothing wrong with giving gay couples the same tax rights as married couples . When I become "Supreme Ruler of the World " Dimpled Chad (aka Kosar ) will die of a heart attack , and the word marriage will be removed from Law and in its place will be "Civil Unions " Marriage is a religious term and the churches should decide who they want to marry and who they don't .
----along the civil union/marriage line I once again find it interesting after the state of Califorinia voted that marriage was to be between man and women (by 62%)that once again a few liberal representatives there are trying to mandate their one laws against the will of --we the people.
The appointment of 2 new justices in next year will have HUGE impact in years to follow.--
California Legislature Approves Gay Marriage
Wednesday, September 07, 2005
SACRAMENTO, Calif ? Gay rights supporters cheered loudly from the gallery as California lawmakers became the first in the country to approve a bill allowing same-sex marriages (search). But their celebration may be short-lived.
The legislation could be vetoed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (search), who has expressed an acceptance of gay marriages but said it's an issue that should be decided by voters or the courts.
"He will uphold whatever the court decides," spokeswoman Margita Thompson said Tuesday after the state Assembly approved the same-sex marriage measure, 41-35. The Senate had approved it last week.
A state appellate court is considering appeals of a lower court ruling that overturned California laws banning recognition of gay marriages. And opponents of same-sex marriage are trying to qualify initiatives for the 2006 ballot that would amend the state Constitution to ban gay marriages.
The bill's supporters compared the legislation to earlier civil rights campaigns, including efforts to eradicate slavery and give women the right to vote.
"Do what we know is in our hearts," said the bill's sponsor, San Francisco Democrat Mark Leno. "Make sure all California families will have the same protection under the law."
But opponents repeatedly cited the public's vote five years ago to approve Proposition 22 (search), which prohibits California from recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries.
"History will record that you betrayed your constituents and their moral and ethical values," Republican Assemblyman Jay La Suer said.
Leno had sponsored an earlier bill that fell four votes short of passing the Assembly in June. He kept the issue alive by adding the language of the defeated measure to another bill that had already passed the Assembly and was awaiting action in the Senate.
The Senate approved that bill and sent it back to the Assembly for another vote. Four Democrats who didn't vote the last time tipped the scales.
One of them, Assemblyman Tom Umberg, said Tuesday he was concerned about what his three children would think of him if he didn't join those "who sought to take a leadership role in terms of tolerance, equality and fairness."
California already gives same-sex couples many of the rights and duties of marriage if they register with the state as domestic partners.
Massachusetts' highest court ruled in November 2003 that the state constitution guarantees same-sex couples the right to marry. The nation's first state-sanctioned, same-sex weddings began taking place in May 2004.
Vermont began offering civil unions in 2000, after a ruling by the state's Supreme Court. Earlier this year, Connecticut became the first state to approve civil unions without being forced by the courts.
Tuesday's vote showed that gay rights advocates have "turned the corner on the issue of marriage equality for lesbian and gay couples," said Geoff Kors, executive director of Equality California, a backer of the bill.
"As the debate today shows, love conquers fear, principle conquers politics and equality conquers injustice, and the governor can now secure his legacy as a true leader by signing this bill," he said.
But Randy Thomasson, president of the Campaign for Children and Families, a conservative group opposed to the bill, said Schwarzenegger should veto it.
"Schwarzenegger can't afford to sign the gay marriage license bill," he said. "He'll actually become a hero to the majority of Californians when he vetoes it."
The appointment of 2 new justices in next year will have HUGE impact in years to follow.--
California Legislature Approves Gay Marriage
Wednesday, September 07, 2005
SACRAMENTO, Calif ? Gay rights supporters cheered loudly from the gallery as California lawmakers became the first in the country to approve a bill allowing same-sex marriages (search). But their celebration may be short-lived.
The legislation could be vetoed by Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (search), who has expressed an acceptance of gay marriages but said it's an issue that should be decided by voters or the courts.
"He will uphold whatever the court decides," spokeswoman Margita Thompson said Tuesday after the state Assembly approved the same-sex marriage measure, 41-35. The Senate had approved it last week.
A state appellate court is considering appeals of a lower court ruling that overturned California laws banning recognition of gay marriages. And opponents of same-sex marriage are trying to qualify initiatives for the 2006 ballot that would amend the state Constitution to ban gay marriages.
The bill's supporters compared the legislation to earlier civil rights campaigns, including efforts to eradicate slavery and give women the right to vote.
"Do what we know is in our hearts," said the bill's sponsor, San Francisco Democrat Mark Leno. "Make sure all California families will have the same protection under the law."
But opponents repeatedly cited the public's vote five years ago to approve Proposition 22 (search), which prohibits California from recognizing same-sex marriages performed in other states or countries.
"History will record that you betrayed your constituents and their moral and ethical values," Republican Assemblyman Jay La Suer said.
Leno had sponsored an earlier bill that fell four votes short of passing the Assembly in June. He kept the issue alive by adding the language of the defeated measure to another bill that had already passed the Assembly and was awaiting action in the Senate.
The Senate approved that bill and sent it back to the Assembly for another vote. Four Democrats who didn't vote the last time tipped the scales.
One of them, Assemblyman Tom Umberg, said Tuesday he was concerned about what his three children would think of him if he didn't join those "who sought to take a leadership role in terms of tolerance, equality and fairness."
California already gives same-sex couples many of the rights and duties of marriage if they register with the state as domestic partners.
Massachusetts' highest court ruled in November 2003 that the state constitution guarantees same-sex couples the right to marry. The nation's first state-sanctioned, same-sex weddings began taking place in May 2004.
Vermont began offering civil unions in 2000, after a ruling by the state's Supreme Court. Earlier this year, Connecticut became the first state to approve civil unions without being forced by the courts.
Tuesday's vote showed that gay rights advocates have "turned the corner on the issue of marriage equality for lesbian and gay couples," said Geoff Kors, executive director of Equality California, a backer of the bill.
"As the debate today shows, love conquers fear, principle conquers politics and equality conquers injustice, and the governor can now secure his legacy as a true leader by signing this bill," he said.
But Randy Thomasson, president of the Campaign for Children and Families, a conservative group opposed to the bill, said Schwarzenegger should veto it.
"Schwarzenegger can't afford to sign the gay marriage license bill," he said. "He'll actually become a hero to the majority of Californians when he vetoes it."
