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what the hell does that have to do with Iraq and terrorism?
I have a relative who spent two years in Iraq, came back and passed his seargent's exam while waiting to be deployed to N'awlins
he was ready to go. but wasnt needed. do you really think a disaster like Katrina would have left us looking left and right for soldiers and not finding any?? my mommy said not to argue with someone who is ignorant about the content of the issue. that's why i cant spend my life in here like you do. why dont you guys go out for a nice walk or something. oh, wait. the air is too polluted and its too hot cause of global warming.

 

[CHARLESMANSON]

Amen!!!

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"A soldier would be the last guy I would go to if I wanted to find out about the war he is fighting. If we left it up to them we would still be fighting Vietnam. You should get on your knees and thank God for the protestors who stopped that war and saved an unknown number of American lives."

--will MOST DEFINATELY reply to that this evening when time permits --- in the mean a short cut and paste--from The Grapevine


Mystery Man Unmasked

Tuesday, September 13, 2005

By Brit Hume



Now some fresh pickings from the Political Grapevine:

Big Easy Bankruptcy

As was noted earlier, New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin (search) says his beleaguered city is now broke. The New Orleans Times Picayune reports the city spent the last of its cash to pay employees last week and is asking for bank loans and federal aid to continue paying its bills.

But despite the lack of funds, Mayor Nagin, who has now moved his family to a new home in Dallas, says he won't stand for state or federal officials assigning reconstruction projects without the approval of city officials, saying, "I don't want anybody outside of New Orleans planning nothing as it relates to how we're going to rebuild this city without us signing off on it."

Mystery Man Unmasked

The mystery Los Angeles Times writer who said he was told by a CNN producer to "get angry" before a Hurricane-related appearance has been identified. He's editorialist Jon Healy (search) and he tells CBS' Public Eye that an hour before he was set to appear on the network to discuss his editorial criticizing the response to Katrina, a producer called to say, "I know this is going to sound tacky, but when you're on the show, could you be angry?"

Healy replied that his responses would reflect the editorial's content, but says, "I'm a news guy, I'm not an actor." CNN denies it told anyone to get angry.

Roberts' Refusals

Planned Parenthood (search), the abortion rights group, issued a press release today deriding John Roberts (search) for "refusing to answer questions" during his confirmation hearing. The group says Roberts' "evasive responses" signal his "unfitness" for Chief Justice, adding, "Time and again Judge Roberts' answers about privacy rights, reproductive freedom, and the right of all Americans to make their own childbearing choices have been evasive and vague."

That statement was released at 9:58 this morning just under half an hour into the hearing.

Radio v. Roe

The National Right to Life Committee (search), meanwhile, is airing a radio ad in Illinois blasting Democratic Senator Dick Durbin for saying John Roberts should be "disqualified" for the Supreme Court if he does not support Roe v. Wade (search).

Durbin told ?Meet the Press? in July that "it would trouble [him] greatly" if he thought Roberts might allow states to restrict abortion. But the ad points out that Durbin himself served five times as master of ceremonies at an annual rally to protest Roe and called for overturning the decision as recently as 1989. ."

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

per your>
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"A soldier would be the last guy I would go to if I wanted to find out about the war he is fighting. If we left it up to them we would still be fighting Vietnam. You should get on your knees and thank God for the protestors who stopped that war and saved an unknown number of American lives."

Evidently your memory is shorter than my pecker--we went through this last month. If anyone should get down on their knees and be thankful it would be the north vietnamese--you protestor were resposible for the slaughter of almost 2 million people in the aftermath--how you feel about that--of course it wasn't really about feelings as you proved to the soilders that returned it was all about political agenda.

"A soldier would be the last guy I would go to if I wanted to find out about the war he is fighting" --Yep if you want the truth go a protesting site and look for those with the pocket protectors and fanny packs--they'll tell you how itreally was.

from 8-17-05
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Vietnam> How do you lose a war that you never lost a battle in---why do you pull out when you finally get to point where casualties are reduced 90% and everything is going much better with South Vietnam taking over much of chores and enemy decimated.
(Last 2 years rarliy was NVA ever seen--mostly VC in hit and run tactics and a few morters lobbed in occasionally.)

I'll tell you how--the media and protestors impact on rest of people.
How many lives did our pull out save--maybe 1000 troops max over the next 3 years--how many did it cost--over 1.5 million cambodians and vietnamese-- and to this day they really think they did something--and cheerfully quote how many lives they saved--the ultimate LIBERAL LOGIC--


Read the terrorist Fatah or whatever you call it-- they clearly relate to U.S. not having stomach to see blood--referring to Vietnam , Somolia and Beirut--hopefully they are wrong-- have to acknowedge they do once again have support from those they are counting on, hopefully we get job done before next election.

deaths in Viet Nam
Prior to 1966 - 3,078 (Total up through 31 Dec 65)
1966 - 5,008
1967 - 9,378
1968 - 14, 589 (Total while JFK & LBJ were on watch - 32,053)
1969 - 9,414
1970 - 4,221
1971 - 1,381
1972 - 300 (Total while Nixon was on watch - 15,316)

interesting read
http://www.mrfa.org/vnstats.htm

 

[ferdville]

Nosigar - I couldn't agree with you more. Stevie is a literal robot programmed to say the same things over and over. He holds himself to an entirely different standard that he does others. It is getting so redundant that I fear I am going to have to eliminate this forum from my reading. It is simply becoming too aggravating and I blame myself for getting upside down over his incessant rantings.

 

[ferdville]

DTB - again, please don't try to inject facts into any posts here. It is unacceptable and a typical tact of neocons. To people like Stevie, facts are like kryptonite.

 

[StevieD]

DTB, you make my point, thank you. A show of hands please, how many people here think Vietnam was a good idea? I can't believe I have to argue this so many decades later. For those of you not involved as DTB was I am sure you can see it was not a good idea. Those that got slaughtered happened when DTB, after how many years of us training the Vietnamese to be able to defend themselves. It was called Vietnamization (sp) of the war, remember? It sounds an awful lot like we will stay in Iraq until the Iraqi's can defend themselves.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Stevie I never said Viet War was good or bad--my opinion FWIW is we should never been there is the 1st place--however once we committed and promised the South we would stand by them--we should have honored our word.As the facts will show the war (right or wrong) was finally coming under control in fact from personal observation of soilder on field vs protestors at home I can tell you the Central Highlands where I was for large part was quite calm by 1970 and if not for casuaties taken on move inside Cambodia the #'s above would have been diminished even further. The NVA was no where to be found in large #'s anywhere inside Vietnam and role of the north had been reduced to sporatic ambushes and assualts against civilians by VC (small bands civilian miltia).
The protestors (whether they be liberals or conservatives)and more importantly the media threw in the towel ten feet from the finish line with a 30 ft lead.
This is what you really accomplished--You put bad slant on every soilder that lost his life or served his country and republic of South Vietnam--you glorifird the gutless cowards that head north accross the border.
While you look at it as a political victory--I see the look in the eyes of S.V. that were hopeful while we were there a feel the fear they must have had as they were slaughtered when we left.
I guess you could call that the ultimate answer to your--

"A soldier would be the last guy I would go to if I wanted to find out about the war he is fighting. If we left it up to them we would still be fighting Vietnam."

Yep different views for sure and yes I would defend these people again and again--and if given opp today to protect them or those others willing to give their life for what they believe--or protect the Fonda's-Moore's and there lemmings you can bet your ass who it would be.As a matter of fact I view that group much more dangerous than any enemy--because they with media support give the world a very negative pic of what this country and MOST of its people are really about. Currentent the ACLU is sueing to have all photo's of prison ordeal published. You tell me, who does that benefit --our troops and country--or our enemies--the terrorist and liberal organizations.