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RAYMOND

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Football - Sunday, September 25, 2005
Tampa Bay Buccaneers Spread -3

2. Football - Sunday, September 25, 2005
San Diego Chargers Spread -5?


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At first glance I loved Tampa too, but then I realized that this is setting up to be one of those "trap" games so I am going with Green Bay. Tampa just seems way to easy here, and everyone and their mother is taking them.
 

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trap game........????.......I know what you mean but this game is not high profile as are many "trap games"????.......TB wins and it is easy....There is a huge incentive to play GB as a dog, at home...They do not lose this game frequently......

GL Ray
Hope you get both

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I like both games. SD Must win. Case closed, if not their playoff shot is just about over in that Conference.

As far as GB andTB wellllllllllllllll?
I just can't believe people are worried about GB and keep bringing up the past trends and stats.
Its not a perfect science if it was we all be rich. That Info is great, but sometimes you must go with the facts and the facts are that GB is a bad football team, its 2005 not the late 90's. This team is getting worse every yr, there is a trend for ya and so is Farve.
Some can't accept it or fear the demons of the past. When Dilfer throw for almost 400yds on your home feild something is up. Plus there a numerous reports that there is a lot of finger pointing going inside the locker rm., not a good sign, But hey the na sayers may have the last laugh if GB upsets TB I wouldn't anything can happen in the NFL, But I try to keep it real in the year 2005 and the facts are GB can't stop the run, the pass and Farve just chucks the ball up for grabs all day, and against a great DEF he is in for long day. There is no Freemans, Brooks and Levens on O. No Gilbert Browns and Reggie Whites on D. No home field magic either. Especially after losing that playoff game last yr. to that dog of a team Minn with no D. Maybe Farve will pull an other rabbit out of hat this week, I doubt it. I'll end with this note, I'm not one for spitting out stats and trends off the top of my head but one trend I would like to know is when was the last time GB beat a really good DEFENSE?

Im' with you daddyO, TB got a new car and its a Caddilac, bad news for GB.
 

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Both my books have SD-6, might be worth buying 1/2 point as SD MUST win. Good luck Ray.
 

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i agree

trends are for losers

gb sucks this year.....case closed

look at the recent home record...putrid.....

look at farve int lately....putrid

stop living off stats from 2-8 years ago...irrelevant.....

with rosters changing every year in the nfl, past trends are basically irrelevant
 

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Not that is makes much of a difference but I live in Tampa and although I'm not a Buc fan I do follow them to a certain degree. There are a couple of intangibles in this game that could point to a GB win. Greezy has a tendency to throw some errant passes and there are times when he looks like he doesn't belong as a starter. Also, the Caddy could be due for a little let down on the road. So far he's been lights out but I could see a slight drop in production in this environment. I'm having a tough time making a decision over this game just like a lot of you.......
 

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Raymond, Like your TBay & SD pix and will tail those, but I LOVE the over 42 in SD/NYG!!
Would appreciate your thoughts.
GL!!!
 

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lean with the over for sure



leans


cards+6 may win outright
alt +120 ml
dallas -6.5
jax ml +120
colts -14
eagles -8
saints+4
 

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ray...

i'm with you on tb, but am leaning towards the giants.....waiting to see if the line wil go up.....

good luck.
 

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The Chargers are a desperate and frustrated 0-2 team just ready to explode and take out their frustrations. They?re a much better team than their record. We?re talking a Chargers squad that won the AFC West last year with a sparkling 12-4 mark and returns all its starters. This is a team that is 10-1-2 ATS its last 13 regular season games. This is a team that has the best running back in football, LaDainian Tomlinson, maybe the best tight end, Antonio Gates, and has a solid defense and excellent special teams. The Giants can?t match that. They aren?t in that class. On top of that, this is a horrendous situational spot for the Giants, traveling cross country on a short week following their Monday night game against the Saints. This also is an off-surface for the Giants, who play on artificial turf at Giants Stadium. New York is 2-7 SU and ATS their last nine games on grass. Manning has yet to throw a touchdown pass on the road. The Giants have upgraded Manning at the skill spots, signing wide receiver Plaxico Burress and drafting bruising fullback Brandon Jacobs. However, New York?s offensive line is unproven and its secondary questionable. With Gates back in the lineup after missing Week 1, quarterback Drew Brees has plenty of targets to choose from, including Tomlinson out of the backfield and veteran Keenan McCardell at the flanks
 

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The Cardinals fly into Qwest Field looking for
their first win of the season against a Seahawk
team that looks ripe for the picking. These teams
appear to be evenly matched on paper, so isn't it
worth getting those points against the shaky Seattle
defense? The Cardinals have yet to get their ground
game going. Seattle's defense, where they have lost
some continuity in both personnel and signal-calling,
might be the cure. Any semblance of a running game
could open up the Arizona offense. The number is just
too big to pass up
 

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Arizona - 7-0 Over as a road underdog of 7 points or less
Seattle - 0-6 ATS at home off a home game
 
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