http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051007/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_ap_poll
But hey what do numbers mean? :mj07:
But hey what do numbers mean? :mj07:
28% of Ameicans feel the country is headed in the right direction
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Some people are finally starting to wake up.
WASHINGTON - President Bush's job approval is mired at the lowest level of his presidency, and public feelings about the nation's direction have sunk to new depths in an Associated Press-Ipsos poll.
People are anxious about Iraq, the economy, gas prices and the management of billions of dollars being spent for recovery from the nation's worst natural disaster.
"There is a growing, deep-seated discontentment and pessimism about the direction of the country," said Republican strategist Tony Fabrizio, who believes that pessimism is not always aimed at the president and his policies.
Only 28 percent say the country is headed in the right direction and two-thirds, 66 percent, say the country is on the wrong track, the AP-Ipsos poll found.
Those most likely to have lost optimism on that score include several groups that supported Bush in his re-election: white evangelicals, down 30 percentage points; Republican women, down 28 points; Southerners, down 26 points, and suburban men, down 20.
Americans' confidence in the nation's direction has been shaken on several fronts.
Consumer confidence is near the lowest level in two years. Most people are unhappy with the president's handling of the economy, gas prices and hurricane recovery. Just over a third approve of his handling of Iraq. Six in 10 are unsure whether billions of dollars for hurricane relief will be spent wisely.
Bush's job approval was 39 percent in the poll, about where he's been for the three months.
"We've lost focus on where we're supposed to be going and not able to respond to the crises that affect the people of this country," said David Ernest, a Republican from San Ramon, Calif., who is angry about the government's response to Hurricane Katrina. "We're mired in a Middle Eastern adventure and we've taken the focus off of our own country."
Four of five Republicans say they approve of Bush's job performance, close to the level of support he's had from his base for months. But the enthusiasm of that support has dipped over the last year.
Almost two-thirds of Republicans strongly approved of the job done by Bush in December 2004, soon after his re-election. The AP-Ipsos survey found that just half in his own party feel that way now.
"It's very difficult for him because he is trying to get more support generally from the American public by seeming more moderate and showing he's a strong leader at the same time he has a rebellion within his own party," said James Thurber, a political scientist at American University. "The far right is starting to be very open about their claim that he's not a real conservative."
Fiscal conservatives are complaining about huge budget deficits and plans to spend billions on hurricane recovery. Social conservatives are alarmed about his choice of a relatively unknown lawyer, Harriet Miers, as a nominee for the Supreme Court. Miers, Bush's longtime personal attorney, has most recently served as White House counsel.
Bush's has tried to reassure conservatives about Miers. He's also trying to counter critics of the war by tying U.S. efforts in Iraq to the larger war against terrorism. And he's made frequent trips to the areas devastated by hurricanes Katrina and Rita to offset criticism of the government's initial response to Katrina.
Even those efforts get viewed with suspicion by some.
"I just think the president is doing things for political reasons, not what's right for the people," said Traci Wallace, a Democrat from Tallahassee, Fla. "Every time he makes a trip to the hurricane zone, he's blowing a million dollars."
Of all the problems facing the country, the continuing war in Iraq is the one that troubles some Bush supporters the most.
"I approve of what the president is doing, but it's a mixed decision," said Richard Saulinski, a Republican from Orland Park, Ill. "We should get out of Iraq. It seems like there's no light at the end of the tunnel. I just think we're dealing with a culture we don't really understand."
The poll of 1,000 adults was conducted by Ipsos, an international polling company, from Monday to Wednesday and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
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WASHINGTON - President Bush's job approval is mired at the lowest level of his presidency, and public feelings about the nation's direction have sunk to new depths in an Associated Press-Ipsos poll.
People are anxious about Iraq, the economy, gas prices and the management of billions of dollars being spent for recovery from the nation's worst natural disaster.
"There is a growing, deep-seated discontentment and pessimism about the direction of the country," said Republican strategist Tony Fabrizio, who believes that pessimism is not always aimed at the president and his policies.
Only 28 percent say the country is headed in the right direction and two-thirds, 66 percent, say the country is on the wrong track, the AP-Ipsos poll found.
Those most likely to have lost optimism on that score include several groups that supported Bush in his re-election: white evangelicals, down 30 percentage points; Republican women, down 28 points; Southerners, down 26 points, and suburban men, down 20.
Americans' confidence in the nation's direction has been shaken on several fronts.
Consumer confidence is near the lowest level in two years. Most people are unhappy with the president's handling of the economy, gas prices and hurricane recovery. Just over a third approve of his handling of Iraq. Six in 10 are unsure whether billions of dollars for hurricane relief will be spent wisely.
Bush's job approval was 39 percent in the poll, about where he's been for the three months.
"We've lost focus on where we're supposed to be going and not able to respond to the crises that affect the people of this country," said David Ernest, a Republican from San Ramon, Calif., who is angry about the government's response to Hurricane Katrina. "We're mired in a Middle Eastern adventure and we've taken the focus off of our own country."
Four of five Republicans say they approve of Bush's job performance, close to the level of support he's had from his base for months. But the enthusiasm of that support has dipped over the last year.
Almost two-thirds of Republicans strongly approved of the job done by Bush in December 2004, soon after his re-election. The AP-Ipsos survey found that just half in his own party feel that way now.
"It's very difficult for him because he is trying to get more support generally from the American public by seeming more moderate and showing he's a strong leader at the same time he has a rebellion within his own party," said James Thurber, a political scientist at American University. "The far right is starting to be very open about their claim that he's not a real conservative."
Fiscal conservatives are complaining about huge budget deficits and plans to spend billions on hurricane recovery. Social conservatives are alarmed about his choice of a relatively unknown lawyer, Harriet Miers, as a nominee for the Supreme Court. Miers, Bush's longtime personal attorney, has most recently served as White House counsel.
Bush's has tried to reassure conservatives about Miers. He's also trying to counter critics of the war by tying U.S. efforts in Iraq to the larger war against terrorism. And he's made frequent trips to the areas devastated by hurricanes Katrina and Rita to offset criticism of the government's initial response to Katrina.
Even those efforts get viewed with suspicion by some.
"I just think the president is doing things for political reasons, not what's right for the people," said Traci Wallace, a Democrat from Tallahassee, Fla. "Every time he makes a trip to the hurricane zone, he's blowing a million dollars."
Of all the problems facing the country, the continuing war in Iraq is the one that troubles some Bush supporters the most.
"I approve of what the president is doing, but it's a mixed decision," said Richard Saulinski, a Republican from Orland Park, Ill. "We should get out of Iraq. It seems like there's no light at the end of the tunnel. I just think we're dealing with a culture we don't really understand."
The poll of 1,000 adults was conducted by Ipsos, an international polling company, from Monday to Wednesday and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3 percentage points.
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50% of Americans are registered to vote (if that)
half of those don't bother
they are
disenfranchised :mj07:
half of those don't bother
they are
disenfranchised :mj07:
I/O
What you said is so true. Even though Bush is wildly unpopular. The 28 percent who thinks he is doing ok all vote.
Out of the 72 percent that think he sucks.. most don't vote
What you said is so true. Even though Bush is wildly unpopular. The 28 percent who thinks he is doing ok all vote.
Out of the 72 percent that think he sucks.. most don't vote
Hmm Sure seems that elections on pres-house and senate have refected differently.
They must be polling DC and San Fran--We'll cheerfully concede the polls-and expect you do to same during elections.
I can understandibly see people in negative state of mind with the hurricanes and gas prices--but biggest threat they face is security-and peace of mind and come election day MOST will understand GW did not bring Hurricanes--is not responsible for price of gas--and would NOT consider liberals who compare our troops to nazi's--want to cut military--give terrorist attorneys--take prayer out of school but make sure it is available to terrorist captives ect.
Most still believe same gender sex is not natural let alone allowing them to marry--still like christmas and pledge of allegience-still support boy scouts--don't believe child porn is protected under our constitution and don't like liberal judges making laws to say otherwise-collectively most have come to understand what ACLU and liberals really stand for--and that is where your problem lies.
If you had mainstream Dems being personified in media instead of liberals I would say things would be diff--but with the Deans-Kennedy's-Peloski's Aclu-ect getting all the press the word liberal will remain a four letter word to general public.
They must be polling DC and San Fran--We'll cheerfully concede the polls-and expect you do to same during elections.
I can understandibly see people in negative state of mind with the hurricanes and gas prices--but biggest threat they face is security-and peace of mind and come election day MOST will understand GW did not bring Hurricanes--is not responsible for price of gas--and would NOT consider liberals who compare our troops to nazi's--want to cut military--give terrorist attorneys--take prayer out of school but make sure it is available to terrorist captives ect.
Most still believe same gender sex is not natural let alone allowing them to marry--still like christmas and pledge of allegience-still support boy scouts--don't believe child porn is protected under our constitution and don't like liberal judges making laws to say otherwise-collectively most have come to understand what ACLU and liberals really stand for--and that is where your problem lies.
If you had mainstream Dems being personified in media instead of liberals I would say things would be diff--but with the Deans-Kennedy's-Peloski's Aclu-ect getting all the press the word liberal will remain a four letter word to general public.
Wayne:
"...biggest threat they face is security...". Glad you've joined the club of lets scare the shit outta them so we stay the course.
Subway threat day after stay the course speech. Sorry if you can see my skeptism.
Eddie
"...biggest threat they face is security...". Glad you've joined the club of lets scare the shit outta them so we stay the course.
Subway threat day after stay the course speech. Sorry if you can see my skeptism.
Eddie
Hold it another poll from the right had Bush at 31%. Lets give him his du. I see his want a be Ann Clithead is even mad at him. And she follows him around to kiss his ring.
The poll was skewed because of the liberal media or else somehow Bill Clinton is to blame for the way the people are feeling. Bush needs to rally the religious right by talking about gay marriages and taken the limelight off the unethical practices of Delay and Rove that are being exposed.
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Clem D said:
well, since most conservatives are not happy with him in any way, becuase he is a spending maniac, what do you expect?
1/2 trillion so that Haliburton shareholders make their quarter, ain't bad. Yeah, we really needed to invade that country.
Viva Bush greatest criminal of the 21st century.
Eddie
Viva Bush greatest criminal of the 21st century.
Eddie
Wayne:
"...biggest threat they face is security...". Glad you've joined the club of lets scare the shit outta them so we stay the course.
Subway threat day after stay the course speech. Sorry if you can see my skeptism.
Eddie
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1/2 trillion so that Haliburton shareholders make their quarter, ain't bad. Yeah, we really needed to invade that country.
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Haven't been able to make out just what info they got out of terrorist in Iraq but if legit-and they halt it in before it occurs there might be a lot of people in NY that disgree with you
---of one thing you can be certain--IF they got info that fast from captured terrorist you can bet your ass the Iraq'i were doing the interrogating--as "your boys" pretty well have our hands tied now.
Reason they captured terrorist so fast in UK bombing was due to surveilance camera's--another thing "your boys" are against.
No surveilence-no profiling-attorneys before interrogation-
Hell the criminals have their own legal system--the ACLU
in addition defending child porn--crusade against boyscouts-Christmas--pledge of allegience ect
Everyone can readily see where your coming from in denoucing flag wavers--religion ect--You all have your own little fraternal cult
"...biggest threat they face is security...". Glad you've joined the club of lets scare the shit outta them so we stay the course.
Subway threat day after stay the course speech. Sorry if you can see my skeptism.
Eddie
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1/2 trillion so that Haliburton shareholders make their quarter, ain't bad. Yeah, we really needed to invade that country.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Haven't been able to make out just what info they got out of terrorist in Iraq but if legit-and they halt it in before it occurs there might be a lot of people in NY that disgree with you
---of one thing you can be certain--IF they got info that fast from captured terrorist you can bet your ass the Iraq'i were doing the interrogating--as "your boys" pretty well have our hands tied now.
Reason they captured terrorist so fast in UK bombing was due to surveilance camera's--another thing "your boys" are against.
No surveilence-no profiling-attorneys before interrogation-
Hell the criminals have their own legal system--the ACLU
in addition defending child porn--crusade against boyscouts-Christmas--pledge of allegience ect
Everyone can readily see where your coming from in denoucing flag wavers--religion ect--You all have your own little fraternal cult
"...pledge of allegiance...denouncing flag wavers...religion..."
I can't speak directly for Eddie but if he's anything like me he's a pretty practical guy who considers it a complete waste of time for Congress to convene to argue about whether "Jesus" should be in our national anthems and patriotic mumblings, or whether a flag on fire constitutes an immediate threat to national security.
It's easier to waste taxpayer money on frivolous emotional issues than to tackle serious problems that will only get worse over time, issues that will actually determine the future of this country....
Hell yeah, just put them all on the backburner, debate the wording of the pledge of allegiance, and keep on spending towards oblivion.....everyone knows we're indestructible, and no dynasties ever fell.
I can't speak directly for Eddie but if he's anything like me he's a pretty practical guy who considers it a complete waste of time for Congress to convene to argue about whether "Jesus" should be in our national anthems and patriotic mumblings, or whether a flag on fire constitutes an immediate threat to national security.
It's easier to waste taxpayer money on frivolous emotional issues than to tackle serious problems that will only get worse over time, issues that will actually determine the future of this country....
Hell yeah, just put them all on the backburner, debate the wording of the pledge of allegiance, and keep on spending towards oblivion.....everyone knows we're indestructible, and no dynasties ever fell.
I think Sox's will have much trouble with the A's. Don't worry about Cleve. I think there at home resting up for next year.
Bush now up to 32%. Maybe 6 more trips to Mississippi will do the trick
Bush now up to 32%. Maybe 6 more trips to Mississippi will do the trick
Marco:
You can speak for me anytime but around here will probably fall on deaf ears.
Leroy, in response to your question, no.
Eddie
You can speak for me anytime but around here will probably fall on deaf ears.
Leroy, in response to your question, no.
Eddie
djv said:
DJV please tell me you mean by A's as in Angels not as in Oakland or I will have to lump you in with Haskel on sports at least :mj07:
