Woman kicked off flight for obscene Bush T-shirt

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Oct 6, 2005 1:59 pm US/Pacific

Woman Tossed Off Plane For Obscene Bush T-Shirt

(AP) RENO A woman was booted off a Southwest Airlines flight in Reno for wearing a T-shirt with the pictures of President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney and the F-word.(According to a Reno TV station, the caption under the pictures of Bush, Cheney, and Rice was "Meet the f*ckers". )

Lorrie Heasley of Woodland, Wash., said she plans to press a civil-rights complaint against the airline over Tuesday's action at Reno-Tahoe International Airport.

Heasley said she wore the T-shirt as a gag, and wanted her parents, both Democrats, to see it when they picked her up at the Portland, Ore., airport.

The 32-year-old lumber saleswoman said she thinks she had a right to wear it. "I just thought it was hilarious," Heasley told the Reno Gazette-Journal. "I have cousins in Iraq and other relatives going to war. Here we are trying to free another country and I have to get off an airplane ... over a T-shirt. That's not freedom."

Southwest Airlines spokeswoman Marilee McInnis said the shirt became an issue after several passengers complained as they boarded.
After several conversations with flight attendants, Heasley agreed to cover the words with a sweatshirt.

When the sweatshirt slipped while she was trying to sleep, she was ordered to wear her T-shirt inside-out or leave. She and husband Ron chose to leave.

McInnis said Southwest rules allow the airline to deny boarding to any passenger whose clothing is "lewd, obscene or patently offensive." Allen Lichtenstein, lawyer for the American Civil Liberties Union in Las Vegas, said Heasley's T-shirt is "protected" political speech under the Constitution. The real issue, he said, is that the airline allowed her to wear the shirt onboard and then objected only when passengers complained. "That they changed rules in the middle of a flight simply because someone didn't like it ... might be problematic," Lichtenstein said.

The flight originated in Los Angeles before making the scheduled stop in Reno. No one from Southwest complained about the shirt at Los Angeles International Airport, and neither the pilot nor crew members objected when she boarded the aircraft, Heasley said.

Heasley said she has been in touch with ACLU lawyers in Seattle, and wants Southwest to reimburse her for the last leg of their trip. After the couple exited the plane, they were told they would only be reimbursed for taxes on the ticket, she said. She and her husband drove home Wednesday in a rental car.

Federal Aviation Administration officials said there are no federal rules concerning clothing on airlines. "It's up to the airlines who they want to take and by what rules," FAA spokesman Donn Walker told the Gazette-Journal. "The government just doesn't get into the business of what people wear on an aircraft."

? 2005 The Associated Press
 

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IMO, this is NOT a free speech matter at all. I don't care whether it was a bash Bush t-shirt or a t-shirt with Lewinsky going down on Clinton. What this woman doesn't see is that it isn't politics, it's the appropriateness of wearing a shirt with profanity in a public setting. The airline is a PRIVATE company, so if they choose to censor her t-shirt, they have every right.
 

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I'm with you Lux but evidently all are not--how about these apples-

-School gives pupils f-word limit
Pupils are being allowed to swear at one Northamptonshire secondary school - as long as they limit their use of bad language to five times a lesson.
A tally of how many times the f-word is used will be kept on the board.

Parents of children at the Weavers School in Wellingborough were told of the new policy in a letter, according to a report in the Daily Mail.

The policy, which comes into effect when term starts next week, has been condemned by parents' groups and MPs.

"In these sorts of situations teachers should be setting clear principles of 'do and don't'," said Nick Seaton, chairman of the Campaign for Real Education.

'Everyday language'

But headmaster Alan Large said he had received no complaints about the policy.

"The reality is that the f-word is part of these young adults' everyday language," he told the Daily Mail.

Assistant headmaster Richard White said the policy was aimed at two classes of 15 and 16-year-olds that were particularly unruly.

"Within each lesson the teacher will initially tolerate (although not condone) the use of the f-word (or derivatives) five times and these will be tallied on the board so all students can see the running score," he wrote in the letter.
 

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DTB, the ACLU want us to have the right to use the F word wherever and whenever we choose, and at the same time don't want us to say the words "under God" in the Pledge of Allegiance. The vast majority of our country can not reconcile those two views.
 

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Personally I think it all boils down to manners, which most folks today do not have. I am all for free speech but there are many other words in our language that will allow you express the same point of view with out the explatives.
 

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SW went overboard on this one . I dont understand why they would kick someone off the plane for that .
 

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I would not want my children seeing that in public and that, to me, should not be covered by Freedom of Speech. That is infringing on someone else's rights, isn't it? I am no law expert.

Southwest is not a private company. Ticker: LUV

That article about the schools, if accurate, is sickening.
 

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Hmm...this one is kind of a toughie for me. Personally, I find it in poor taste (despite personally agreeing with the sentiment...lol) and would be offensive to children at least. I would not want young children to see it, mine or other parents. You are not allowed to say the word on public broadcasting, so there is some precedent in that regard. I think that since the airplane is a closed-in space where people really cannot have a choice in the matter, she should at least be asked to cover it up, and if she doesn't continue to keep it covered, then asking her to leave is ok by me. The sweatshirt "slipped"? What does that mean. She covered it up and then before they took off she was showing it again? Seems kind of strange.

I gotta get me one o' them shirts, though...
 

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I gotta say the airline went about it the right way.
Her shirt had swear words on it, they asked her to cover it up. When the shirt became uncovered they asked her to turn the shirt inside out so that it wouldn't happen again, she didn't wanna do that and got off the plane. It's not like they threw her out, that was her own choice.

If I wore a shirt with a woman and a horse making sweet love I wouldn't expect to be allowed to just wear it in any situation and get away with it.

I think she maybe saw some $$ signs in it and thought about suing them over it.

Either that or shes dumb enough to go through a whole lot of BS and have to rent a car and all the rest of it rather than just turn her lame t-shirt inside out - the novelty/any comedy it would provide would wear off after 12 seconds anyway.
 

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LUX said:
When the sweatshirt slipped while she was trying to sleep, she was ordered to wear her T-shirt inside-out or leave. She and husband Ron chose to leave.
That's the part I don't understand. If she had a sweatshirt over it - how the f does it slip while she's sleeping to the point that it's again visible to the extent of revealing enough to be offensive.

Unless the husband is feeling her up and they are in foreplay, this doesn't make any sense at all.
 
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