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Delay is to be booked into jail on Friday and although he tried to circumvent the process of being booked and fingerprinted it has failed as a warrant was issued for his arrest today. I wonder how soon smokinggun will have the pictures up of this assclowns mugshots?
 

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Mugshot? I got a hunch it won't happen. Some string will get pulled.
 

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As i have said before, he is a scumbag but this is a rilroad job and he never gets convicted. Those gloating over it ie liberlas only are demonstrating that they care more for partisanship than the priciples they supposedly hold so dear.
 

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Does defending scumbags EVER get old for you guys? Just curious. Why do you say this is a railroad job? Sounds/loooks like he did plenty wrong to me. And, how does he get the scumbag label by a conservative apologist? By NOT doing bad things?
 

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Chadman said:
Does defending scumbags EVER get old for you guys? Just curious. Why do you say this is a railroad job? Sounds/loooks like he did plenty wrong to me. And, how does he get the scumbag label by a conservative apologist? By NOT doing bad things?

Where did I defend or apologize him, or are you just illiterate? You dont convict even the worst people for crimes they didnt commit. You dont indict people for crimes you cant prove. You are only believing what you want to believe. That's why liberals are in trouble - the claim to have principles but folks realize they dont.

But I am just a lawyer in Texas, what could I know about this anyway.
 

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Chadman said:
Does defending scumbags EVER get old for you guys? Just curious. Why do you say this is a railroad job? Sounds/loooks like he did plenty wrong to me. And, how does he get the scumbag label by a conservative apologist? By NOT doing bad things?

You weave much out of nothing.

If he's proven guilty, hang him by the balls. I not, hang the judge by the balls.
 

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I was just asking a simple question. I know I got tired of defending Clinton - heck, I still do nearly 5 years later by those that want to change the subject away from current events, for obvious reasons.

To address a few more comments:

I do not think that "bashing", as you put it, necessarily helps my party forward anything. I think it's worth examining these events, especially considering this party and this administration continually put forth what high morals and convictions they stood for while railing on Clinton and his assorted endeavors. Pot>kettle>black, etc. When you hang your hat on your personal reputation and high moral character, and then that proves to be laughable, then I think it's fine to point that out to people - many who held the previous and any liberal leaders moving forward to those very standards and ASKED to be measured against them.

I am not illiterate.

I don't think any politician, for the most part, can become a President in this day and age without doing some dubious things. Liberals, Conservatives alike. I think it's fair to look at them when they are in charge of leading our country, however. And I have a right to speak my opinion regarding their endeavors. I think I have been pretty straightforward in saying that these things need to be proven before they become, well, proven. I'm sure that over the past few years, a few essays on Clinton's unproven endeavors were made here.

I believe my instincts when it comes to the way people conduct themselves and how they seem. I think most people do. But when people ask to be held to a higher standard, then I think it's fine to do just that.

And when you call someone a scumbag, I guess you don't think a guy is a very good guy. I'm not weaving anything, just figuring that when someone is arrested for something, there probably is some reason to expect him of committing a crime. Innocent until proven guilty remains true, granted. But beyond commentary and suspicion? Certainly not.
 

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DeLay?s Dirty (Baker?s) Dozen


House Majority Leader Tom DeLay has been a busy man these last few years. Whether bribing congressmen, threatening political opponents, vacationing with lobbyists, or gutting House ethics rules, it?s been hard to keep up with all the Hammer?s activities. Here are thirteen highlights from DeLay?s illustrious career:


DELAY KILLED INVESTIGATION INTO LABOR ABUSE IN MARIANAS ISLANDS: In 1998, DeLay helped kill a ?congressional fact-finding trip that was being planned as part of an investigation of sweatshop conditions in the garment industry in the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands.? Jack Abramoff represented the Northern Mariana Islands at the time, aiding them in their quest to avoid U.S. labor laws. To this end, Abramoff flew dozens of lawmakers and their aides for luxurious vacations to the balmy islands, including one 1997-98 New Year?s trip for DeLay and his wife. (It was on this trip that DeLay called Abramoff ?one of my closest and dearest friends.?) Later that year, Rep. Peter Hoekstra (R-MI) decided to leading a fact-finding investigation into worker abuse in the islands? garment industry. When DeLay caught wind of the investigation, his office threatened the Hoekstra with loss of his subcommittee chairmanship if he continued.


DELAY RAISED CORPORATE CASH FOR TRMPAC: DeLay is embroiled in a scandal in Texas for his active participation in illegally funneling corporate funds to assist state political campaigns. DeLay?s political action committee, Texans for a Republican Majority (TRMPAC), is under criminal investigation for using corporate money to finance Texas campaigns. DeLay has tried to distance himself from the group, but documents show DeLay ?personally forwarded at least one large check? to the group and was ?in direct contact with lobbyists for some of the nation?s largest companies? on TRMPAC?s behalf. [Source: NYT, 3/10/05; Salon, 10/04/04]


DELAY BRIBED CONGRESSMAN TO VOTE FOR MEDICARE: DeLay has admitted offering to endorse Sen. Nick Smith?s (R-MI) son Brad, who was running for Congress at the time, in exchange for Smith?s ?yea? vote on the Medicare bill. His actions violated House rules and earned DeLay a ?public admonishment? from the Ethics Committee. Smith originally alleged ? and then retracted after pressure from House leaders ? that DeLay also offered a $100,000 bribe for his vote. DeLay extended the role call on the Medicare bill for nearly three hours in order ?to avoid an embarrassing loss.? [Slate, 10/1/04; WP, 10/1/04]


DELAY USED TAXPAYER MONEY FOR PARTISAN STUNT: The House ethics panel rebuked DeLay for using government resources to help locate a private plane he thought was carrying Texas Democratic legislators. DeLay was trying to force the legislators back to the capitol so he could push through his ?bitterly disputed congressional redistricting.? The ethics report cited House rules that bar members from taking ?any official action on the basis of the partisan affiliation?of the individuals involved? and said DeLay?s behavior raised ?serious concerns under such ?standards of conduct.? [WP, 10/7/04]


DELAY PAID FOR GOLF TOURNAMENTS WITH CASH MEANT FOR KIDS: DeLay used a children?s charity, Celebrations for Children Inc., as cover for collecting soft money from anonymous interest groups, some of which was used for ?dinners, a golf tournament, a rock concert, Broadway tickets and other fundraising events? at the Republican convention in New York. Because the money was supposedly for charity, companies wishing to curry favor with DeLay were able to do so without revealing themselves as campaign donors. Federal laws governing tax-exempt charities allow no more than an insubstantial portion of a group?s revenue to be spent on activities other than the charity?s main stated purpose. [CBS, 11/14/03; WP, 3/24/04]


DELAY PROMISED ?SEAT AT TABLE? FOR DONOR: In one of its three public rebukes, the House Ethics Committee cited the belief on the part of executives at an energy company, Westar Energy Inc., that a $56,500 contribution to a political action committee associated with DeLay would get them a ?seat at the table? where key energy legislation was being drafted. DeLay also participated in Westar?s golf fundraiser at The Homestead resort in the summer of 2002, ? just as the House-Senate conference on major energy legislation?was about to get underway.? [WP, 10/7/04]


DELAY TOOK MONEY FROM TEXAS PRISON COMPANY WITH LEGISLATION PENDING: DeLay ?took a $100,000 check from a private prison company? ? the Corrections Corporation of America (CCA) ? at a fundraiser for his children?s charity, the DeLay Foundation for Kids. CCA ? whose 20-year history has been ?fraught with malfeasance, mismanagement, and abuse? ? was part of an ongoing lobby for a bill that would privatize up to half of Texas?s jails. DeLay is known for wielding major influence over the Republican-led legislature that will decide on the matter. [Knight Ridder, 11/30/04; Texas Observer, 6/6/03]


DELAY BLOCKED LEGISLATION FOR PARTISAN VENDETTA: In 1999, DeLay received a ?private rebuke? for threatening retaliation against the Electronic Industries Association when the trade group named a Democrat to head its Washington operation. To punish the group, DeLay stopped two uncontroversial trade bills that would have benefited the EIA and told the association it would lose all GOP access unless it hired a Republican instead. The group still hired the Democrat, but a little later, the EIA quietly hired a former House Republican staff member who promptly showed up at a fundraiser for DeLay?s ARMPAC. [Texas Observer, 2/4/00; Slate, 12/5/98]


DELAY TOOK SHADY DONATIONS FOR LEGAL DEFENSE FUND: The list of recent donors to DeLay?s legal defense fund includes two lawmakers placed on the House Ethics Committee this year (they replaced conservatives who were purged for being critical of DeLay), and corporations implicated in DeLay?s alleged fundraising violations. Corporate donors include Bacardi U.S.A., the rum maker that has also been indicted in the Texas investigation, and Reliant Energy, ?another major contributor to a Texas political action committee formed by Mr. DeLay that is the focus of the criminal inquiry.? In December, DeLay was forced to return funds from registered lobbyists because those contributions violated House ethics rules. [NYT, 3/13/05; Time, 3/13/05]


DELAY LEFT ETHICS BEHIND ON EUROPEAN VACATION: DeLay enjoyed a luxurious vacation at the Four Seasons Hotel in London in mid-2000, paid for by an Indian tribe and a gambling services company, both of which opposed gambling legislation DeLay voted against two months later. The payment was funneled through lobbyist Jack Abramoff, best known for teaming up with right-wing religious fundamentalist Ralph Reed to close down a Texas casino operated by the Tigua Indians in 2002, then persuading the tribe to pay the two of them $4.2 million to lobby Washington lawmakers, including DeLay, to reopen it. According to expense accounts obtained by the Journal, Abramoff financed DeLay and DeLay?s staff?s stay at the Four Seasons hotel to the tune of $4,285.35. The total reimbursement for expenses in London was $13,318.50. [WP, 3/12/05; Raw Story, 2/25/05; WP, 9/29/04]


DELAY LEFT HOUSE RULES BEHIND ON ASIAN VACATION: DeLay accepted an expense-paid trip to South Korea which, in direct violation of House rules, was paid for by a South Korean lobbying group. The Korea-US Exchange Council, a group registered with the Foreign Agents Registration Act, was created with help from DeLay?s former chief of staff. The cost to send DeLay, his wife and three of his lawmaker friends to Seoul for three days was $106,921, the fourth largest cost for any single trip taken by lawmakers between January 2000 and September 2004. [WP, 3/10/05]


DELAY KICKED ETHICS OUT OF HOUSE: DeLay and his allies in the House have sought to cripple the House Ethics Committee. The committee, which rebuked DeLay three times last year, was purged of its most ?responsible? members last month and is currently ?paralyzed? by a proposed rules change that ?would prevent the committee from launching any investigation without the support of at least one Republican?a restriction designed to protect the majority leader.? [WP, 2/5/05; WP, 10/7/04; Time, 3/13/05]


DELAY TRIED TO CHANGE RULES TO PROTECT POWER: DeLay was the driving force behind the decision by House leaders to abandon an 11-year-old party rule that ?required leaders to step aside temporarily if indicted.? The idea was dropped only after rank-and-file lawmakers complained ?the party was sending the wrong message.? [NYT, 11/18/04; WP, 3/11/05]
 

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THE INDICTMENT

John Colyandro
James Walter Ellis
Thomas Dale Delay

www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/0928051delay1.html
there are 4 pages to click to read the indictment.

I am can't wait to see his mugshot :mj07:

I wanna see Cheney with the cuffs on too, that scumbag muthaphucka
 
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I guess this is the pic. ....Actually he looks great!

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/1020051delay1.html

DTB ....Roger CLinton. Wow, do you have Clinton pics on your ceiling? You are a sad, obsessed individual. Try taking a peek into the 21st Century. There's a different president now. Really, I'm not joking - whole new administration and everything. Entire different cast of people making actual decisions RIGHT NOW. Maybe you should look into them. Plenty of modern day scandal for you - way more relevant too.
 

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DTB,

How about giving us the link for the arrest record for W daughter or for Jeb's daughter. I think I have seen the one of Jeb's daughter and she is a piece of work, the apple doesn't fall too far from the tree. Was Clinton's brother arrested for drunk driving? Hell you need to post Cheney's multiple convictions for DWI's!
 

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That's why Dick Cheney has all this congestive heart failure. From all the phucking John Hall benders he's been on ! DWI's arrests....etc

Dubbya is looking quite pale these days.. He'll be good and snorted up Saturday nite watching Rocket Raja and The Southside Sox.

I heard them say on Fox News tonite that these thieving scandals will lead to the Office of The Vice Presidency. The noose hopefull will get real tight.

Nitro Tabs under his tongue with Jim Beam chasers. Will Cheney take the easy way out? He mite, he strikes me as a low life coward. :mj07:
 

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"Was Clinton's brother arrested for drunk driving?"

not quite--try trafficing in cocaine

President Clinton pardoned 140 people, including Roger Clinton for a drug conviction, and commuted the sentence of 36 others in his last hours as president.
 

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DOGS THAT BARK said:
Damn with all the accusations Chad put up there you should have plent of mugshots available if they were FACT and not OPINION.
Example: Could find the one on his brother or could have made it a family photo :)

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/mugshots/rclintonmug1.html

And of course the thread you posted about all that Clinton and his people were "connected with" is based on fact and everything in there was proven. Please. :rolleyes:

I posted what I did, because we were discussing what kind of person Delay is - it was pointed out by a conservative that he was a scumbag. I thought it gave some perspective. Is everything in that accurate, the complete truth? I don't know. Probably not. Is that what you want me to say?

Plenty of hot kitchens on your side of the house these days, isn't there? It's tough when you ASK to be held to a higher standard than previous individuals. You'd better be prepared to live up to it.
 

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Let the lies start flying.

Delay on live news conference just minutes ago: 'I consider this a good day because for the first time i've been allowed to tell my side of the story in court.'

Except:

The day after U.S. Rep. Tom DeLay's grand jury indictment, his lawyer and the jury foreman on Thursday appeared to contradict the Texas politician's assertions that he was not given a chance to speak before the jury.
The foreman, William M. Gibson Jr., a retired state insurance investigator, said the Travis County grand jury waited until Wednesday, the final day of its term, to indict him because it was hoping he would accept jurors' invitation to testify.

DeLay said in interviews that the grand jury never asked him to testify.

...

"I have not testified before the grand jury to present my side of the case, and they indicted me," said DeLay, according to the Associated Press.

Dick DeGuerin, the attorney representing DeLay, said Thursday that DeLay actually was invited to appear before the grand jury, where he would have been under oath. The Houston attorney was not yet on the legal team when DeLay was asked to appear, but he said other attorneys advised him not to testify ? a decision DeGuerin supports.
 

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He had to put his best face forward. He's up for re-election next year. Think about it. Smokinggun?
 

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Believe he looking for change of venue and the judge to recuse himself--
Supporting DeLay's arguments, DeGuerin dropped off several motions to the court late Thursday to dismiss the indictment, to change the venue and to urge Perkins to withdraw from adjudicating the case. The motion listed two pages of organizations that had received contributions from Perkins, including Moveon.org and the Democratic National Committee.

--imagine that--believe "the squirell" noted --does that make him biased? :)

Lets see-- took the Squirell how many grand juries(3 or 4 that refused) before he got indictment--then found out (through delay attorneys) that it wasn't even a crime so had to bring diff charges in last day--then hooks him up with judge that makes contributions to move.on ect--seems fair to me--in all seriousness-- that is funny:)
 
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