Welfare reform, limits

[Chadman]

Here's a question, more for the conservatives than the libs, but would like any links and info you guys care to share. I remember Clinton made welfare reform a major part of his agenda, and as I recall there were limitations on the length of time a person could receive welfare benefits in the reform that was passed. Seems like it was 5 years or some such thing, and I don't remember it all that clearly.

I'm sure there are ways to get around anything, but do you guys have any links to the welfare reform situation post-"reform"? Palehose offhanded comment about Clinton only doing one good thing in his time in office got me thinking, and I have wondered about this for awhile. I will dig, too, later, just wondering if anyone wants to chime in, either side of the fence. Thanks.

 

[Palehose]

Your answer is waiting at Gov .org sites be sure to see who presented that bill :

Welfare Reform: Legislative History, 1994-1996
Personal Responsibility Act
Even though President Clinton promised to "end welfare as we know it" in his 1992 Presidential campaign, the national debate over welfare reform did not take shape until 1994, when the original "Personal Responsibility Act" was introduced in the House of Representatives as part of the Republican "Contract With America."
Personal Responsibility Act

Hmm wonder why Billy waited for the Rebubs to put a bill forth hmmmm I wonder :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

The Senate bill was a modified version of a bill introduced by Senator Robert Dole (R-Kansas) which proposed to end welfare as an outright entitlement and is aimed at giving states "increased flexibility" to:

`(1) provide assistance to needy families with minor children;

`(2) provide job preparation and opportunities for such families; and

`(3) prevent and reduce the incidence of out-of-wedlock pregnancies.

The Personal Responsiblity Act Debate
The debate over the Personal Responsibility Act took place in Congress and around the country for more than a year.
These were the opening statements made by supporters of the Bill in the House of Representatives:

Republican Speeches Defending Personal Responsibility Act

Many representatives offered strong criticism of the Personal Responsibility Act in the course of the debate. Among the most forceful was a series of speeches by opponents of the Bill addressing the "causes of poverty."

Democratic Congressional Criticism of Personal Responsibility Act

 

[djv]

They better get a better system set up. Were fixing to move about 5% more of the middle classe into welfare range.

 

[Chadman]

when the original "Personal Responsibility Act" was introduced in the House of Representatives as part of the Republican "Contract With America."
Personal Responsibility Act

Hmm wonder why Billy waited for the Rebubs to put a bill forth hmmmm I wonder :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

Thanks for the tip. Interesting how you choose to spin it, but thanks nonetheless. It was my understanding that a standing President cannot put forth a bill, but maybe it was Clinton's fault that he didn't do it himself. Additionally, I'm not sure that the Republican "Contract With America" was introduced as a bill, but when you try to take credit for everything positive I guess the devil is in the details.

Of course, a democrat making welfare reform one of his main running points does not get any positivity from Conservatives, but that's to be expected. I will look around, and thanks for the link.

 

[Palehose]

Thanks for the tip. Interesting how you choose to spin it, but thanks nonetheless. It was my understanding that a standing President cannot put forth a bill, but maybe it was Clinton's fault that he didn't do it himself. Additionally, I'm not sure that the Republican "Contract With America" was introduced as a bill, but when you try to take credit for everything positive I guess the devil is in the details.

Of course, a democrat making welfare reform one of his main running points does not get any positivity from Conservatives, but that's to be expected. I will look around, and thanks for the link.

You are correct but if you use it in your campiagn its Clintons job to get his Democratic House or Senate leader to create the Bill ...thats just standard operating proceedure . He did sign it though much to the chargrin of many Dems .

"Of course, a democrat making welfare reform one of his main running points does not get any positivity from Conservatives"
I would give him credit if he genuinely meant it the only reason it was part of his Campiagn is because Doles Campiagn was making hay with it and it was hurting Bill terribly ...see your missing my little clues notice who proposed that Bill ?
Thats Bob Dole the guy who ran against him :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

 

[smurphy]

I liked Bob Dole. Actually would not have minded at all if he won in '96. That was good election - the country was in good shape with either outcome.

Palehose - seriously - the overdose of of laughing icons is out of control. Maybe if you sprinkled them in on actual funny comments - but you are on drugs if you actually crack yourself up that much.

 

[Palehose]

I liked Bob Dole. Actually would not have minded at all if he won in '96. That was good election - the country was in good shape with either outcome.

Palehose - seriously - the overdose of of laughing icons is out of control. Maybe if you sprinkled them in on actual funny comments - but you are on drugs if you actually crack yourself up that much.

Believe me when I say the laughter comes in after I read stupid moronic crap like France is our Allie :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

 

[smurphy]

read what i said - simply stated that ultimately iraq will probably be LESS of an ally than france. i didn't herald france as having some great alliance with us.

you just don't read everything do you?

 

[djv]

It's called rope a dope. So with little to say it's easy to Fill with :mj07: :sadwave: :clap: :mj07:
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