Yeah Six Five, I was lucky to be on the Penn State side last week. Couldn't believe Penn St. scored with so little time left and then tonight I was on Pitt. But thats gambling, been doing this for a long time and this isn't the first time and probably won't be the last time it happens. Just makes you wonder sometimes.
can anyone explain to me....
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1st and 10 at PITT 28 George Stripling rush for 13 yards to the Pitt 15 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at PITT 15 George Stripling rush for 4 yards to the Pitt 11.
2nd and 6 at PITT 11 George Stripling rush for 1 yard to the Pitt 10.
3rd and 5 at PITT 10 Timeout LOUISVILLE, clock 01:55.
3rd and 5 at PITT 10 George Stripling rush for 6 yards to the Pitt 4 for a 1ST down.
1st and Goal at PITT 4 Kolby Smith rush for 1 yard to the Pitt 3.
2nd and Goal at PITT 3 Kolby Smith rush for 3 yards for a TOUCHDOWN. 20 41
Arthur Carmody extra point GOOD. 20 42
Todd Flannery kickoff for 38 yards returned by John Pelusi for 9 yards to the Pitt 36.
1st and 10 at PITT 15 George Stripling rush for 4 yards to the Pitt 11.
2nd and 6 at PITT 11 George Stripling rush for 1 yard to the Pitt 10.
3rd and 5 at PITT 10 Timeout LOUISVILLE, clock 01:55.
3rd and 5 at PITT 10 George Stripling rush for 6 yards to the Pitt 4 for a 1ST down.
1st and Goal at PITT 4 Kolby Smith rush for 1 yard to the Pitt 3.
2nd and Goal at PITT 3 Kolby Smith rush for 3 yards for a TOUCHDOWN. 20 41
Arthur Carmody extra point GOOD. 20 42
Todd Flannery kickoff for 38 yards returned by John Pelusi for 9 yards to the Pitt 36.
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Steel, you hit it right on the head. The NCAA, NFL, NBA, etc, all know that the gamblers are a big reason for their success. I wish one of them would some day grow a sack and admit it.
steel, I completely see your point, most coaches with sportsmanship in mind choose not to run up the score. I forget whom, but during Week 1 or 2 I lost a game with someone actually called timeout to run their field goal team out there with seconds remaining. Can't remember team now but it was a complete bs move. Your one of the better handicappers I have seen on here, you'll get it back I'm sure.
G man-let me first say I fully respect your handicapping, so you don't get defensive on me like you sometimes seem to do with any opinion that isn't yours.
I don't think its possible to say cards were "given" the cover because opening kickoff was muffed. All plays, mistake s and otherwise are what determines the outcome of the game. Was Pittsburgh s kickoff troubles any more of a gift than Louisville s
ensuing soft coverage yielding a easy touchdown for Pittsburgh??
Or cards multiple fumbles deep in Pittsburgh Territory, do we overlook these? How about Louisville s star tailback not playing more than half the game? Surely if not injured Louisville would have scored more. Just saying your heading down a slippery slope once you start picking and choosing plays and not encompassing the game as a whole which it is.
Now if you don't mind please tell us something about Ohio/Toledo I don't know. Because other than being coached by Frank what's his face from Nebraska and beating Pittsburgh early this season I don't know shit about Ohio. Actually a good friend of mine that later played for New England and Jacksonville was standout defensive end at Ohio Jason Carthon
G man-let me first say I fully respect your handicapping, so you don't get defensive on me like you sometimes seem to do with any opinion that isn't yours.
I don't think its possible to say cards were "given" the cover because opening kickoff was muffed. All plays, mistake s and otherwise are what determines the outcome of the game. Was Pittsburgh s kickoff troubles any more of a gift than Louisville s
ensuing soft coverage yielding a easy touchdown for Pittsburgh??
Or cards multiple fumbles deep in Pittsburgh Territory, do we overlook these? How about Louisville s star tailback not playing more than half the game? Surely if not injured Louisville would have scored more. Just saying your heading down a slippery slope once you start picking and choosing plays and not encompassing the game as a whole which it is.
Now if you don't mind please tell us something about Ohio/Toledo I don't know. Because other than being coached by Frank what's his face from Nebraska and beating Pittsburgh early this season I don't know shit about Ohio. Actually a good friend of mine that later played for New England and Jacksonville was standout defensive end at Ohio Jason Carthon
shamrock:
im not all that concerned about the game. it was yesterday. and i never said the cards were given the cover. dont put words in my mouth. i was talking about a free 7 points on the opening kickoff. thats like a technical foul before a basketball game starts for players hanging on the rim during warmups. the opposition doesnt earn those points. theyre just the beneficiary of something stupid at the start of the game. this thread is getting played though.
im not all that concerned about the game. it was yesterday. and i never said the cards were given the cover. dont put words in my mouth. i was talking about a free 7 points on the opening kickoff. thats like a technical foul before a basketball game starts for players hanging on the rim during warmups. the opposition doesnt earn those points. theyre just the beneficiary of something stupid at the start of the game. this thread is getting played though.
i am sure petrino had some money on it , otherwise there was no need to score another touchdown, i had pittsburg +21.5 so I lost by a half point. That is just bad luck, but when money is involved shit things happen, like the one that took place yesterday..
Thanks Coach I hope you had a lot of money on this game..
You are just Classless, I hope you fall from the 25 poll
Thanks Coach I hope you had a lot of money on this game..
You are just Classless, I hope you fall from the 25 poll
16 play 80 yard drive. 1st play was a pass, then 15 rushes in a row. They were really trying to run the score up 
Give me a break. They ran 15 times in a row and nearly ran out the last 10 minutes of the game. Sour grapes. If they were trying to run the score up, they would have. Would all the Pitt backers still be whining if they had lost by 32 instead of 22?
Give me a break. They ran 15 times in a row and nearly ran out the last 10 minutes of the game. Sour grapes. If they were trying to run the score up, they would have. Would all the Pitt backers still be whining if they had lost by 32 instead of 22?HELLO !!!!! THEY TOOK A TIME OUT. I agree,they were not trying to run up the score, they were trying to COVER THE SPREAD. Do we want coaches trying to cover the spread ?
bryanz said:
of course we want coaches trying to cover the spread. spurrier made his bread and butter doing it. i want whatever team i bet on's coach to try and cover. damn right. if you had pitt last night you sure as hell wanted wanny trying to cover it.
i just read this thread and people are really giving it too much.
what if pitt marched down the field and scored on their final 40 seconds. they got 40 yards and fell 30 short. but what if they threw a deep ball and connected. this thread wouldn't even exist.
louisville ran the ball 15 times in a row. they've got guys in there that are seniors and/or freshman trying to get them some glory or experience if the starters are out. right or wrong that's just how it is. from a fans perspective it can be construed as classless. but these linemen and stuff bust their ass off all season, never see meaningful time, and if they get a chance to help a score so be it. its not for me to argue its validity.
gl
my 2 cents, LOU knew the line etc ... recall those dancing frat boys and tirico being befuddled by their hubris polka? well of course they had their parents $100 or whatever on Cards ...
Petrino knew the cover was a td away ... i tried a middle and needed 17-21 ... so missing a fg or toss out safety i woulda hit ... I kinda watched the game impartially and LOU did cough 2xs inside 10 yl, the fake fg was a walk in td then another WR coughed inside 10 later ... the opening BS offset one another ...
I find it comical that Tirico was so baffled; our pal Al Michaels woulda pointed out the justification for the frat boys hillbilly fruit jig
sorry for those who lost, its kinda typical BS loss in the game
Petrino knew the cover was a td away ... i tried a middle and needed 17-21 ... so missing a fg or toss out safety i woulda hit ... I kinda watched the game impartially and LOU did cough 2xs inside 10 yl, the fake fg was a walk in td then another WR coughed inside 10 later ... the opening BS offset one another ...
I find it comical that Tirico was so baffled; our pal Al Michaels woulda pointed out the justification for the frat boys hillbilly fruit jig
sorry for those who lost, its kinda typical BS loss in the game
This is first I've been on the boards since I last posted last night....
I wasn't trying to call anyone out when I said I disagreed. Also, I do agree that it was kind of a weird ending.
It surprised me that Pitt didn't use their timeouts ANYWHERE on that last drive. Not with 3 minutes, or 2 minutes, or there at the end.
As I posted before, the Louisville timeout was very odd. Not that they took it....but that they didn't wait for 25 sec's to tick off.
I think L'ville running the ball was about as safe as you can get. If they kneel, who knows if Pitt takes timeouts or not. Its easier to start taking timeouts after 2 yard losses than after 5 yard gains. They could not have run the whole clock out if Pitt takes timeouts.
Also, some coaches get in situations where they CAN run out the clock when the other team has timeouts, but they can't do the math or whatever and won't kneel until the other team is out of timeouts and there is 25 seconds left. They just don't know any better.
Yes, a tough loss for anyone on Pittsburgh. Whether Pitt deserved not to cover or not is not the issue. It never is. It looked like a sure thing for Pitt at the end. Eventually L'ville would have the game and take knees. I think Pitt not using their TO's, as well as L'ville taking one was the problem.
Also, yeah the announcers were dumbfounded that the 2 fans were going crazy after covering. Lee Corso would have at least hinted hard as to why they were so happy.
Hell, I was happy for/with them. LOL.
But, no harm intended on my previous post. Lets get 'em Sat.
Peace.
I wasn't trying to call anyone out when I said I disagreed. Also, I do agree that it was kind of a weird ending.
It surprised me that Pitt didn't use their timeouts ANYWHERE on that last drive. Not with 3 minutes, or 2 minutes, or there at the end.
As I posted before, the Louisville timeout was very odd. Not that they took it....but that they didn't wait for 25 sec's to tick off.
I think L'ville running the ball was about as safe as you can get. If they kneel, who knows if Pitt takes timeouts or not. Its easier to start taking timeouts after 2 yard losses than after 5 yard gains. They could not have run the whole clock out if Pitt takes timeouts.
Also, some coaches get in situations where they CAN run out the clock when the other team has timeouts, but they can't do the math or whatever and won't kneel until the other team is out of timeouts and there is 25 seconds left. They just don't know any better.
Yes, a tough loss for anyone on Pittsburgh. Whether Pitt deserved not to cover or not is not the issue. It never is. It looked like a sure thing for Pitt at the end. Eventually L'ville would have the game and take knees. I think Pitt not using their TO's, as well as L'ville taking one was the problem.
Also, yeah the announcers were dumbfounded that the 2 fans were going crazy after covering. Lee Corso would have at least hinted hard as to why they were so happy.
Hell, I was happy for/with them. LOL.
But, no harm intended on my previous post. Lets get 'em Sat.
Peace.
The boys for louisville deserved paydirt on tha last drive, if i was coach i wouldnt hold them back from blasting it in with a run seeing how they powered their way down there, Pitt is too pitiful to stop the run thats why they was getting 21, Reward the boys for that drive and thats what the coach did!, i would have also, he dont coach pitt he coaches louisville and rewarded the boys with a TD on national TV...they earned it! :clap: and i bet the ranch if louisville would have been in that field position from a turnover they would have knelt down, but they drove down the feild and deserved that TD
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Your right g man, I apologize fully for putting words in your mouth, I said "given", your exact terminology was "handed" and gift" sorry again for the gross exaggeration on my part.
Just comical how Pittsburgh mistake fielding the kick resulting in Louisville score was "handed" or gift" or "technical foul" or whatever....but Louisville s poor gift soft coverage allowing 97 yard touchdown was well deserved drive by Pittsburgh???
Let's just ignore 200 + yards difference, nearly 2-1 time possession, Bush best player on field not playing second 1/2, Louisville 2 fumbles inside Pittsburgh 15 yard line. And the fact that Pittsburgh scored 1 offensive touchdown, and had 0 points in the second half. Y a your exactly right Pittsburgh should well have covered, that's if they couldn't stop that 9:10 minute endless drive to end the game, your right they should have covered easy.
And maybe the thread is getting tired, with your 5 or 6 posts in it.
Just comical how Pittsburgh mistake fielding the kick resulting in Louisville score was "handed" or gift" or "technical foul" or whatever....but Louisville s poor gift soft coverage allowing 97 yard touchdown was well deserved drive by Pittsburgh???
Let's just ignore 200 + yards difference, nearly 2-1 time possession, Bush best player on field not playing second 1/2, Louisville 2 fumbles inside Pittsburgh 15 yard line. And the fact that Pittsburgh scored 1 offensive touchdown, and had 0 points in the second half. Y a your exactly right Pittsburgh should well have covered, that's if they couldn't stop that 9:10 minute endless drive to end the game, your right they should have covered easy.
And maybe the thread is getting tired, with your 5 or 6 posts in it.
shamrock:
move on man. the game was yesterday. you don't like my viewpoint? youre not the first.
but its senseless to debate semantics when it comes to a thread from yesterday night, especially with a billion games that are far more interesting in the coming day or so.
normally on these forums, a post game thread lasts about an hour or two and then dies off. im amazed people are perpetuating this one, especially considering it was such an uneventful game for the most part between two teams out of the big east race.
gl this weekend man.
move on man. the game was yesterday. you don't like my viewpoint? youre not the first.
but its senseless to debate semantics when it comes to a thread from yesterday night, especially with a billion games that are far more interesting in the coming day or so.
normally on these forums, a post game thread lasts about an hour or two and then dies off. im amazed people are perpetuating this one, especially considering it was such an uneventful game for the most part between two teams out of the big east race.
gl this weekend man.
It was really poor sportsmanship,he should have taken the knee.I watched the L'ville to and couldn't believe it.The ASU coach pulled the same thing on Washington last week going for the covering td with a kneel out time remaining leading 31-17,cost me a large three team parlay.Its nothing new,when Vinny Testaverde and JJ were at Miami they were famous for throwing late,game covering tds leading by double digits.At least these guys weren't throwing.Won a Texas/Tex A+M game where the Longhorns were attempting to do this and got tackled on the 1 ft line as the clock ran out.Sorry you lost in such a frustrating way.
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guys, my whole point of this post got lost along the way...i have never seen a coach call timeout in a spot like that before...up 15 with the ball a minute and change left and the opposition LETTING him run out the clock..he clearly had an agenda to cover the spread....and i thought it was gutless that espn didnt question it.....its great to know as countingguy poinnted out...petrino/lou. at home is gold....this guy will break all the unwritten rules to get a cover....hes a great coach to back at home,store it for future use.
im sure someday wannstadt will remember what he did and will return the favor if given the chance..
and i do agree pitt. does suk for not being able to stop a team that ran 15 straight times...
GLUCK GUYS....GO GET EM TONITE EVERYONE..BURGH...
im sure someday wannstadt will remember what he did and will return the favor if given the chance..
and i do agree pitt. does suk for not being able to stop a team that ran 15 straight times...
GLUCK GUYS....GO GET EM TONITE EVERYONE..BURGH...
