The whole world is messed up!

[fletcher]

This should bother everyone, yeah I might disagree with people from whom don't believe in my god and my country but I wish no real harm to anyone on this earth, be it mid-east france or africa. I might get pissed off and yes I would fight for my country but you have trouble in the middle-east no shock, franch burning down, over to germany and now over 67 dead in jordan with in last few hours. I am really sick of all of it, and I might be pissed at the french gov. but wish no harm on their country and people same as people from middle-east back ground.

I just don't get it maybe I am just stupid but we a a world need to wake up not the us not middle east or GB. but the whole world and if this does not bother people something is really wrong with you 2 wrongs don't make a right, like i said I would be the first to fight for my family and country but this shit is not fighting this is just sick people and for those who rejoice over it shame on you, how did you feel if american when 9-11 happened and other things , well i find no joy in anyone being killed I am not the one to judge who dies, or why but damn sure bothers me that some people in the whole world can laugh at the hurt others suffer.

I am 43 on thur and I am not wet behind the ears i saw things with a few countries that i was worried about in the late 70's early 80's but this is nothing like that and I am telling you I watch every thing I do and where I go. I find it sad that people lose life over something I don't understand and trust me I have tried, but I don't care what back ground or beef I have with their veiws I never wish them our their countries harm, that is just fuked up. People are people some are not wound like others but so me one person who does not bleed red and i am sick of seeing red, and then some who laugh at it from all over the world. Just not right and it is not getting better if so i don't see it or maybe i am parnoid, but don't think so.

I don't know how to handle it but seems blood on blood just brings more blood?

If anyone finds joy out of any of this then they are messed up. Don't care how you feel about others that is your feelings but enjoying hurt of others IMO something is wrong in those peoples mind with that type of mindset.

I am just sick of the world as a whole, hell ready to move to Halifax and fish my life away no shit on that either.

 

[gardenweasel]

i hate the french...and make no bones about it...it`s my opinion...it`s how i feel....they are cowardly...duplicitous...and dangerous....

they are more dangerous than some of these islamofascists...because they do their dirty work under the cloak of being an ally....

they are not...

**** `em...that`s my opinion...

a pox on their house...

as far as "the world goes"....well,the world...or a large part of it...the civilized,industrialized modern world.....the world that we are a part of....is under attack....

it was under attack before 9/11....it was under attack before iraq and afghanistan....

i wish singing kumbaya would make it all go away....

i wish leaving iraq and afghanistan would end it....

but...it won`t....

maybe an atomic blast that obliterates israel would help.....but,there goes all those good intentions out the window....

that would be an awful lot of "bleeding"....not to mention the possible collapse of the world economy...

and the sooner that the rest of the enlightened,civilized,upwardly mobile....lazy,carefree,shortsighted world realizes that this isn`t just an american problem.....the sooner something might be done to head off armageddon....

i think that maybe,they are beginning to understand...

not the french...they don`t even understand what`s happening in their own country....

and that`s fine with me...

 

[gardenweasel]

btw...much love fletch...i believe that we agree on many more issues than we disagree on....

 

[shamrock]

Eric, your correct, the world is becoming a ugly place, I'm glad I'm not raising children. What Garden says about the West being under attack is exactly correct its spread everywhere, Germany Spain, Italy, France Denmark Africa Indonesia Philippines everywhere. We are heading for a new millennium CRUSADES. I say this sadly, however without any question or doubt.

I agree with Patrick Buchanan on very few issues, although I believe he is right on the mark in the thread I recently posted, check it out, we are under attack period.

Garden, I'm sure your with me on differentiation of French politics, government and ordinary citizens. I'm sure there are many decent folk, farmers and the such that have nothing at all to do with politics that have come under attack. I'm sure the woman that was set ablaze was just a ordinary person. Same with many of the police killed.

Hope both of you my friends are doing well

Dan

 

[ferdville]

New millennium CRUSADES - sad but true

 

[smurphy]

Most French are poor shleps like the rest of us. Don't associate their leadership and policies with the majority of the people. I met some great folks when I was there.....same as everywhere I go.

Yes - we are probably in the early stages of a very long war against the Islamic world. I'd really like it if we stopped kissing the Saudi's asses and our president would stop making out with Abdullah in the flower garden.

 

[RAYMOND]

the end of the world is coming. believe it or not!
turn your fear into faith with GOD! YOU CAN ONLY LEAD BY EXAMPLE!

 

[djv]

Ray I can agree with that. I believe we need some of that by our leaders also. And not just the Pres. But it goes much deeper in the world of poverty
Fletch your title is so correct. It's a mess and has been long time. Some of it from long ago when other countries force there will on others. Some of it from last 20 years because so many never seem to learn.
It is sad at some times how hate rules. Until there is less poverty in this world. I'm afraid were going to keep having things be repeated. Evil seems to feed off poverty.

 

[gardenweasel]

shammy.....nice post....i swear to you...i`m no big bush administration supporter.....nor,am i a mindless basher...i think that`s what provokes me to their defense...

my comments are in response to what i see as some mindless,vicious attacks...some hysterical and very unfair....

but..........

the more i see of this administration`s actions...and inaction....the more disenchanted i`m becoming...

the lack of any response on their own behalf to defend themselves.....when schmoes like myself can actually mount a defense...makes me wonder...about their capability...their resolve....

the dems,once again...are much more politically astute...and have the administration on their heels...

the minority party able to get indictments on delay...and libby...to have cheyney watching his back....on what i consider very weak,frivolous issues....

the claims that intel was fudged...when clinton,gore,kerry,hillary et al(not to mention the rest of the world...that wasn`t being paid off by saddam) all believed that he was arming up...or would rearm as soon as the french and russians could get the sanctions lifted..and the heat was off....and he would have to be dealt with again and again...


the media pounding...that plays a part in this...in polls... in public perception...

but,again...bush never using the bully pulpit to make his case...republicans on the defensive...despite being in a position of power...

if they aren`t capable of defending their actions....well,then maybe.. they ARE indefensible....

i can argue their case on certain topics....but they can`t?....

i`m pretty much done defending this administration...

tear `em up gents....

i just hope...that when hillary gets elected in "08".....that she actually addresses the border....

that she doesn`t become complacent regarding the issue of terrorism....

that she isn`t for the total secularization of our society...for re-writing history....destroying all vestiges of our heritage...

changing the names of cities and states to conform to some socialistic politically correct ideal......

btw...how did californians shoot down the parental notification proposition in california?....

who...in their right mind...would want their 13 year old to get an abortion...without their knowing about it?....

abortion for full grown adults?...o.k...but no parental notification for children?...they need consent to go on a field trip,for god`s sake......

honestly...how can smart people vote that down?

that`s just crazy...

 

[gardenweasel]

btw..i got off the subject there...went on a rant...the bush administration is wearing a bit thin on me...


i don`t mean that i wish death on the french...not to the average joe...not the one doing his 32 hours per week of hard labor....

i`m just saying that they...their government...should be perceived as what they are...anti-american...not just in policy...but in practice...

they are a danger to us...to europe...a bad example...a stagnant society that resents our success...our prosperity...a classic example of socialism run amuck...and why it doesn`t work...

they hate us..and from all reports...they hate most everyone that isn`t french...

i haven`t yet reached that utopian mindset that preaches "love thine enemy"....