HIGH RANKING DEM SENATOR LEVIN: "Saddam had nukes"

kosar

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Who said anything about 'cooked info?' Not me. It's certainly possible, but who knows? I think that they probably used info that fit their agenda and disregarded info that refuted it. I believe that there is plenty of evidence of reports from our intelligence communities that did not support what they put out. If you really need me to cite these reports, let me know, but i'm pretty sure you've seen them.

So, is that 'cooking info?' Not really, I suppose. They did use info that they received and probably didn't alter it. However, they turned a blind eye to anything that disagreed with the info that they 'wanted' and needed.

That said, Cheney and Rice clearly and explicitly tried to tie Iraq to 9/11. Again, if you really need me to find this let me know. Bush also tried to tell us that some broken down balsa wood plane was a drone that was capable of delivering a 'mushroom cloud' to our shores. In addition, George Tenet, on information independant of Joe Wilson, told W that the document he was relying on was probably a fake. W still used it in his State of the Union address. So is that cooked info? I guess it's a matter of semantics.

Also, Valerie Plame did not 'send' Wilson to Niger. Please stop saying that. She did not have the authority to send anybody anywhere. The CIA brass sent him and everybody at the Pentagon and State department ignored his findings since they didn't fit around what they were looking for.

It's amazing. We continue to bash Joe Wilson, the UN inspectors, etc...while we ignore that they were right. I guess that doesn't matter to some. We'll just argue about whether Valerie Plame was covert/overt/pervert, we'll just argue about Joe Wilsons political bent and ignore the misleading and false reasons that were fed to us about invading/occupying/rebuilding Iraq. Semantics I guess.

We now know, and some may have known back then, that Saddam has had no, none, zero WMD programs since 1991. Yes, he WANTED to revive it, but it was not possible under those circumstances. So France and whoever else greasing Saddams palm had no effect on his ability to even start a program. He built palaces and was a ruthless dictator. Who gives a f*ck?

After 9/11, it seems counter-productive to get into some ridiculous nation-building project with a country that has not ever taken a single american life. Well, I guess about 2000 of them now, but you know what I mean.

So i'll ask again, how exactly would you have this administration 'defend themselves?'
 

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It's amazing. We continue to bash Joe Wilson, the UN inspectors, etc...while we ignore that they were right. I guess that doesn't matter to some. We'll just argue about whether Valerie Plame was covert/overt/pervert, we'll just argue about Joe Wilsons political bent and ignore the misleading and false reasons that were fed to us about invading/occupying/rebuilding Iraq. Semantics I guess.


The only reason to bash Joe Wilson would be if you cannot stand someone to tell the truth and you would rather be blindly led around by guys that speak with forked tongues like Dick Cheney!


Bush also tried to tell us that some broken down balsa wood plane was a drone that was capable of delivering a 'mushroom cloud' to our shores.

CLASSIC!!
 

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what did joe wilson tell the truth about?....

that cheney sent him?....no...

that has wife wasn`t involved in sending him?....no

the fact that apparently what was reported to the intelligence committe was different than what was told to reporters?.... because,some on the intelligence committee believed that based on his oral report that iraq was probably trying to obtain uranium from africa.....

why?...

because niger prime minister mayaki had met with the iraqis in 1999 and later concluded that their request for enhanced trade meant they wanted to discuss purchasing uranium...

""". An Iraqi delegation had visited Niger in 1999 to explore "expanding commercial relations" between Iraq and Niger.""

what are niger`s other chief exports?....goats?....cowpeas?...

uranium accounts for 72% of niger`s exports...


... mayaki said he had not pursued the matter because such deals were prohibited under u.n. sanctions.....

that report was noteworthy because of the timing of the iraqi visit..... the cia had several previous reports of iraq seeking uranium in africa in 1999, specifically from congo and somalia....

and i hope you guys cahght that little blurb about "u.n. sanctions".... that there were sanctions imposed on iraq...and countries were prohibited from selling little tidbits like uranium to them under u.n. sanctions.....

they certainly weren`t going to admit selling uranium....and they ARE one of the poorest countries in the world....

wilson and his wife were hard core partisans....she was quoted as saying,""My husband has good relations with the PM [prime minister of Niger] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity." Mrs. Wilson would later say she asked her husband, on behalf of the CIA, if he would investigate "this crazy report" on a uranium deal between Iraq and Niger. Wilson agreed to go.....

thankfully,mr and mrs "vanity fair" were open minded on the subject....

lol
 
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It has nothing to do about the truth that Cheney and Scooter tried to hide. I see the VP'S buddy who should be in jail. The guy that helped sell this lie MR.Chalabi. Was in D C again. And no one had him arrested. This is same guy the administration was paying $300000 ever two months. Just to sell there B S story. None of you would buy a car from this guy. Thats because your smarter. Now if we had only had some smart folks in DC in 2002.
 

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DJV you are classic. I like how instead of djv explaining Mr. Levin's Monday comments he ignored them and started talking about Karl Rove........gee I always thought anyone could indict a ham sandwich. What's up??
 

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Bottom line the intelligence was not cooked ......the 1st independent study "Something and Davies" proved it once .. Now the bipartisan senate intelligence committee just released its findings of no cooked intelligence . The original national intelligence report that every Dem got was the same as what Bush had and everybody voted to use force and that report claimed a 90% chance. They all had speeches supporting it . Really you have to be dumb a box of rocks to believe that crap and you should really do your country a great service and just off yourself if you believe something so incredibly stupid !
I respect Bush greatly for holding the course while under fire about WMD's because the true reality of this is so simple its mind boggling . The brain dead twits that actually believe this crap are so out of touch with reality its beyond stupidity ! I mean really if the man was that evil and corrupt to bring his country into war by messing with intelligence and fooling everybody in power around the world don't you think by now he would have just planted a couple of suitcase nukes in just about anywhere in Iraq have the Navy Seals or Rangers find it and plaster it all over the news ! Really how stupid can you be ! That would be so easy to do its plain ridiculous and if Bush was as evil as these brainless dolts believe it would have been done long ago you clueless morons ! I praise Bush for not stepping down to that level .

Now the reason so many Dems are backpedaling today is simple they are about to have their hypocritical ass hats handed to them today in a Veterans day speech from the President where he will defend pre war intelligence and will repeat the words of some of the same asshole Dems that have changed there tune .

Now for something I feel safe enough to talk about because it is beginning to get some media . When my Nephew was home this spring for his marriage I talked to him about the WMD's his answer . Well probably not anymore ..because he personally was on a surveillance mission 3 days before our push into Baghdad and personally watched Russian special forces moving covered vehicles out of Iraq and into Syria . Now it is beginning to come out that those trucks according to Iraqi Nuc scientists had no less than 20 barrels of yellow cake , several barrels of saran gas , and mustard gas. This I am hearing may possibly come up today in the Presidents speech. God Bless our troops ! Today is Veterans Day and you Liberals should hang your head ! Ours Troops hate you ! Don't you dare act as if you appreciate them or are thankful for their deeds . They hate you and the media with a passion uncontested and would kill you on the spot if you actually had the balls to say to them what you say to us Conservatives here and they could do it clear of mind and conscience due to you putting them in harms way and the fact they would be doing the country a great service ! Hang your heads Liberals you have done nothing but aided and embedded the Enemy ! Traitors ! :cursing: :cursin: :firing: :gf:
 
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Even funnier is that Levin made another statement on Tuesday. Obiously, Howard Dean must have given him a phone call. He stated on Tuesday that the Bush administration had lied and misrepresented the dangers, etc. Funny how things changed over night.
 

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Unreal Fred. I missed that one.

Isn't it funny how the Madjack's liberals cannot explain Levin's statements??? Oh man, thank god that Levin guy is not on my team!! What a complete idiot!
 
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