I am sure all of the objective non-hypocritical Pac 10 fans will post their outrage over a team lobbying for a BCS bowl bid.
http://denverpost.com/colleges/ci_3237949
http://denverpost.com/colleges/ci_3237949
Oregon and The Fiesta
- Thread starter Sun Tzu
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Sun:
Apples and oranges, my man. Lobbying to alledgedly unbiased voters is totally different than lobbying to admittedly biased bowl officials.
Mack Brown exposed himself as a lowlife shillster by begging pollsters to get him into a bowl. Pollsters are supposed to be objective and weigh the strengths of the teams based on football quality only. Historical success, national interest and traveling fanbase are supposed to have nothing to do with it. Remember that the Rose Bowl had no choice in the matter if Texas got a higher ranking than California last year.
Bowl officials (like the ones in the article you are citing) are supposed to consider histroical success, national interest and traveling fanbase when making a decision. Their job is to sell tickets and generate interest in the bowl, not judge the quality of football teams. Therefore, a school official traveling to sell a bowl official on his team's ability to sell tickets and generate interest is perfectly ethical.
The only thing your post exposes is that you're biased against the Pac-10. To counter your bias against Oregon, here is something in Oregon's favor:
-The Big Ten had a total of one non-conference win over a top 25 teams this season. And it was Notre Dame (an overrated team if there ever was one) that the Big Ten team beat. NOTE: The super overrated SEC has zero non-conference wins vs. top 25 teams.
-Notre Dame had exactly one win over a top 25 team this season. They only played one other top 25 team (and lost at home). That one win? Beating Michigan without Hart.
-The Pac-10 has three non-conference top 25 wins and wins vs. bowl bound, BCS conference teams Northwestern and Oklahoma.
-Oregon has the highest ranked win of the 3 teams (Ohio State and Notre Dame being the others) this season, beating Fresno State.
-In the one place where bias is removed (computer rankings), Oregon is well ahead of both Ohio State and Notre Dame.
Hopefully, Notre Dame will choke against Stanford tomorrow night and it will be a moot point. If they don't, even as a biased Pac-10 supporter I am not going to be that mad. One of the great things about college football is that it offers one of the most pure reward systems for fan support in all of sports. Schools with the greatest fan support get rewarded for cultivating that fan support in the form of better players, more national exposure and, yes, better bowl games. In the NFL, teams with the greatest fan support get reqarded by having their rosters pillaged in the name of parity and their potential television profits siphoned to inept franchises that would be dragged out to the barn and shot in the real business world.
Apples and oranges, my man. Lobbying to alledgedly unbiased voters is totally different than lobbying to admittedly biased bowl officials.
Mack Brown exposed himself as a lowlife shillster by begging pollsters to get him into a bowl. Pollsters are supposed to be objective and weigh the strengths of the teams based on football quality only. Historical success, national interest and traveling fanbase are supposed to have nothing to do with it. Remember that the Rose Bowl had no choice in the matter if Texas got a higher ranking than California last year.
Bowl officials (like the ones in the article you are citing) are supposed to consider histroical success, national interest and traveling fanbase when making a decision. Their job is to sell tickets and generate interest in the bowl, not judge the quality of football teams. Therefore, a school official traveling to sell a bowl official on his team's ability to sell tickets and generate interest is perfectly ethical.
The only thing your post exposes is that you're biased against the Pac-10. To counter your bias against Oregon, here is something in Oregon's favor:
-The Big Ten had a total of one non-conference win over a top 25 teams this season. And it was Notre Dame (an overrated team if there ever was one) that the Big Ten team beat. NOTE: The super overrated SEC has zero non-conference wins vs. top 25 teams.
-Notre Dame had exactly one win over a top 25 team this season. They only played one other top 25 team (and lost at home). That one win? Beating Michigan without Hart.
-The Pac-10 has three non-conference top 25 wins and wins vs. bowl bound, BCS conference teams Northwestern and Oklahoma.
-Oregon has the highest ranked win of the 3 teams (Ohio State and Notre Dame being the others) this season, beating Fresno State.
-In the one place where bias is removed (computer rankings), Oregon is well ahead of both Ohio State and Notre Dame.
Hopefully, Notre Dame will choke against Stanford tomorrow night and it will be a moot point. If they don't, even as a biased Pac-10 supporter I am not going to be that mad. One of the great things about college football is that it offers one of the most pure reward systems for fan support in all of sports. Schools with the greatest fan support get rewarded for cultivating that fan support in the form of better players, more national exposure and, yes, better bowl games. In the NFL, teams with the greatest fan support get reqarded by having their rosters pillaged in the name of parity and their potential television profits siphoned to inept franchises that would be dragged out to the barn and shot in the real business world.
I am not biased against the Pac 10. In fact I think Oregon on paper should go. I am biased against hypocrisy, and that is what this is.
It isn't a fair comparison. Teams campaign to bowls every year. That is not considered unethical (you decide the morality of it). What is considered unethical is campaigning to poll voters. Poll voters and bowl officials serve two entirely different purposes.
Sun Tzu said:
Blame the WVU autobid for Oregon getting the snub. West Virginia, in a conference where south florida will finish second, is the conference that doesnt deserve a bid this season. What has WVU done this year? They beat Louisville, and played VT at home. WOW. WVU is CLEARLY less deserving than either ND or OREGON, so dont blame ND for Oregon being on the outside looking in.
Are you going to blame ND when Texas loses too? :mj07:
