All American Team Announced

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Young, Bush headline AP All-America team
Associated Press


Vince Young can claim at least one victory over Southern California this season.

The Texas quarterback was selected to The Associated Press All-America team released Tuesday, relegating USC's Matt Leinart to second-team.

Young was runner-up in the Heisman Trophy voting to Trojans tailback Reggie Bush and was one of four Longhorns on the first team. Bush was one of three All-Americans from top-ranked USC and a unanimous first-team selection.

The real test for No. 2 Texas comes Jan. 4 in the Rose Bowl, when the Longhorns and Trojans play for the national title.

Young didn't hide his disappointment when Bush won the Heisman in a landslide on Saturday night.

"This should give me a little bit more edge to show the world what a good team the University of Texas is," he said.

Always dynamic on the move, Young proved he could be a topflight passer this season. He leads the nation in efficiency rating (168.8) with 2,769 yards and 26 touchdown passes. He also leads the team with 850 yards rushing.

Texas offensive tackle Jonathan Scott also made the first team, along with teammates Michael Huff, who won the Thorpe Award as the nation's best defensive back, and defensive tackle Rodrique Wright.

Wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett and safety Darnell Bing were the other USC All-Americans.

Leinart was the All-America quarterback last season when he won the Heisman Trophy. This year he was third in the Heisman voting and lost out to Young for the top spot on the All-America team.

Notre Dame's Brady Quinn was the third-team quarterback.

USC and Texas led the way with seven players each receiving AP All-America mention.

Leinart was joined on the second team by guard Taitusi Latui. Tailback LenDale White and offensive tackle Sam Baker were on the third team.

USC has the No. 1 offense in the country, averaging 580 yards per game, and is the first team in NCAA history with two 1,000-yard rushers (Bush and White), a 3,000-yard passer (Leinart) and a 1,000-yard receiver (Jarrett).

"The special thing about our team is everybody's able to put their egos aside and focus on the team," Bush said.

Texas had three players on the third team -- linebacker Aaron Harris, guard Will Allen and tackle Justin Blalock.

Bush was an All-American as an all-purpose player in 2004. He and Ohio State linebacker A.J. Hawk were the only players to repeat as first-teamers.

Hawk and Bush were also the only unanimous first-team selection.

Penn State's Paul Posluszny and Alabama's DeMeco Ryans were the other All-American linebackers. Posluszny won the Butkus Award as the nation's top linebacker and the Bednarik Award, given to the top defensive player. Ryans won the Lott Trophy as top defensive player.

Hawk's Ohio State teammate, linebacker Bobby Carpenter, made third-team.

Penn State defensive end Tamba Hali gave the resurgent Nittany Lions two All-Americans. The last time Joe Paterno's team had multiple All-Americans was 1999, when linebackers LaVar Arrington and Brandon Short and defensive lineman Courtney Brown made the first team.

Penn State also placed offensive tackle Levi Brown and cornerback Alan Zemaitis on the second team.

Louisville's Elvis Dumervil, who led the nation in sacks (20) and forced fumbles (10) and Oregon defensive tackle Haloti Ngata complete the All-America defensive line.

Virginia Tech cornerback Jimmy Williams and Georgia safety Greg Blue were the other first-team defensive backs.

Washington State's Jerome Harrison, who leads Division I-A with 1,900 yards rushing, was the other first-team running back with Bush.

Oregon State's Mike Hass, the nation's leader in receiving yards (139.3), went from a third-team selection last season to first-team this season.

The rest of the All-America offense includes Maryland tight end Vernon Davis, Auburn tackle Marcus McNeill, Georgia guard Max Jean-Gilles, Virginia tackle D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Minnesota center Greg Eslinger.

UCLA's Maurice Drew was the all-purpose All-American. He led the nation in punt returns (29 ypr), and returned three for touchdowns.

Colorado's Mason Crosby is the kicker and Wake Forest's Ryan Plackemeier is the punter.

Notre Dame had three players on the second and third teams, including Quinn. Receiver Jeff Samardzija was a second-team choice, and safety Tom Zbikowski was a third-teamer.

The Pac-10 had the most first-team All-Americans with seven. The Big 12 had five. The Southeastern Conference, ACC and Big Ten each had four and the Big East one.
 
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flys in the face of east coast bias doesn't it?

or maybe since 5 of them are on offense, it shows that they don't play defense in the pac-10

please spin


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Young earns first team All American? At quarterback? This can't possibly be right. How can so many posters be wrong about Young's ability to play quarterback?

Some of what what I have heard over and over:

1. Young can't pass the football.
2. Young is a running back playing quarterback.
3. Young makes poor decisions.
4. Young will never play QB in the NFL.
5. Young couldn't hold Leinart's jock strap.


Apparently there are those on the committee that votes in the All American team that would disagree with some of our west coast posters.

There must be something to that Davie O'Briein Award after all.
 

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flys in the face of east coast bias doesn't it?

or maybe since 5 of them are on offense, it shows that they don't play defense in the pac-10

please spin


osc


Right and most ofl the SEC guys were on D, same old story just a different style of ball.
 

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They wanted to give Young a consolation prize. They also knew that Matt wouldn't throw a hissy fit if not selected.

Matt will get his in the Rose Bowl. Matt will show them who the REAL DEAL is on Jan. 4th when he unleashes the passing attack on the Longhorns.

There are probably several reasons ML doesn't get the support he should:
1. regional bias,
2. the notion that "he already got his" awards,
3. the idea that Young is the sole star, while ML and RB share the load,
4. the media's hunger for something new, and,
5. appreciation for Young's versatility.

ML does not turn the ball over, he reads defenses and makes the right play calls, he knows when to call which number, and has no hesitation in doing so. He is a leader, off the field, on the practice field, before the play, and during the play. A great example was Matt's audible on 4th and 9 in one of the most historical football games ever. Those are the things that make him special, but they are things that don't show well on highlight reels. Those are the intangibles that win NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS! Sure, ML has his highlight reel plays, but he may not be equal with Young on a highlight to highlight, in the middle of the play basis. A similar example is Tom Brady of the Patriots.

It is the other stuff that sets ML apart. Those who really study the games and the players know the difference. Therefore, in a small way, it is an outrage Young was voted ahead of Leinart.

ML is so much better than Young it's not even a fair contest -- kind of like the SC-Oklahoma matchup of a year ago -- but I clearly showed you how less serious observers could miss the differences between these two players.
 
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I'm happy to see the two Georgia players on the first team. Both are very deserving picks, in my opinion.
 

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nice to see that east coast bias has been changed to the more politically correct "regional bias"
 

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Scott4USC said:
They wanted to give Young a consolation prize.
This is nothing but sour grapes from a bitter young man. Consolation prize? Wake up junior, if you don't, you might not see the train coming.
Scott4USC said:
It is the other stuff that sets ML apart. Those who really study the games and the players know the difference. Therefore, in a small way, it is an outrage Young was voted ahead of Leinart.
Always dynamic on the move, Young proved he could be a topflight passer this season. He leads the nation in efficiency rating (168.8) with 2,769 yards and 26 touchdown passes. He also leads the team with 850 yards rushing.
 
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This is nothing but sour grapes from a bitter young man. Consolation prize? Wake up junior, if you don't, you might not see the train coming.

It was a joke! :director: A joke based on prior events! :)

Young is very deserving and accomplished a lot this year. IMO, I think Leinart is not only better but more deserving. I explained why "I" think Young got the award and why "I" think Leinart is more deserving. After Jan. 4th, it will be quite clear who should have been voted 1st team.
 

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Scott...you should have seen the pass Vince made at OhioSt this year late in the 4Q when his team was behind. I believe it would rival the Leinart pass at NDame. Leinart also has much better WRs to throw to (which you have posted before, so there should be no argument from you).

Oh and VY converted a nifty 4th and 18 at Kansas last year by running the ball. It was pretty impressive. wish you could see it.

wish you could see the comments made by the UTexas players about how they follow VY's lead.......you'd be surprised at his veteran leadership. But i'm sure it cant even come close to Leinart's leadership. You would know these things.

Not to mention Leinart has a better rushing attack behind him and a better WR corps....no wonder he is so good!!!!!!

USC rolls UTexas by double digits. easy.
 

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Mat Leinart doesn't get the support he should?????? I turned on sportcenter the other day and they were talking about what color his most recent bowel movement was!!!!

Scott4USC said:
They wanted to give Young a consolation prize. They also knew that Matt wouldn't throw a hissy fit if not selected.

Matt will get his in the Rose Bowl. Matt will show them who the REAL DEAL is on Jan. 4th when he unleashes the passing attack on the Longhorns.

There are probably several reasons ML doesn't get the support he should:
1. regional bias,
2. the notion that "he already got his" awards,
3. the idea that Young is the sole star, while ML and RB share the load,
4. the media's hunger for something new, and,
5. appreciation for Young's versatility.

ML does not turn the ball over, he reads defenses and makes the right play calls, he knows when to call which number, and has no hesitation in doing so. He is a leader, off the field, on the practice field, before the play, and during the play. A great example was Matt's audible on 4th and 9 in one of the most historical football games ever. Those are the things that make him special, but they are things that don't show well on highlight reels. Those are the intangibles that win NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS! Sure, ML has his highlight reel plays, but he may not be equal with Young on a highlight to highlight, in the middle of the play basis. A similar example is Tom Brady of the Patriots.

It is the other stuff that sets ML apart. Those who really study the games and the players know the difference. Therefore, in a small way, it is an outrage Young was voted ahead of Leinart.

ML is so much better than Young it's not even a fair contest -- kind of like the SC-Oklahoma matchup of a year ago -- but I clearly showed you how less serious observers could miss the differences between these two players.
 

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Matt Leinart does throw a mean Sam Adams back!

I'll say it again, Kyle Boller could take that USC team to the NC throwing lefty.

question for the debaters: Does texas go undefeated this year if Matt Leinart is QB? or win as impressively as Texas did over the "powerful Big 12"?.......How about if both had to lead Duke this year. Who would have more success with practically nothing?
 

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I am not impressed with Texas schedule. Big 12 is a $hit conference. Big whoop about Youngs stats. Nothing Texas can do about that and for most part, Texas dominated the way they are suppose too. "MAYBE" just maybe they are a superb team playing in crap conf. We won't find that out until Jan. 4th. My guess is they are a very good team playing in crap conf. NOT A GREAT TEAM! All the evidence supports my claim but I easily can be proven wrong on Jan. 4th.

I said I thought Young was a very good player and I think he is the #2 QB in the country. If I was a coach I would take other QB's ahead of Young but I think he is the #2 QB this season behind Leinart. If that makes any sense. I respect his play and athleticism and everything about him. That makes him #2 in country.

I did watch Ohio St. game. Young was TERRIFIC late in the 4th quarter. He wasn't effective prior to that. If Young plays the same as he played against OSU vs USC, USC will EASILY beat Texas by 20+ pts. That was not a good game by Young.

This is Youngs only big year. I question the defenses Young faced. Wasn't Kansas suppose to have one of the best defenses in the Big 12? Young would get 7 seconds to throw (4 man Kansas rush) and TX WR's would go deep and there was NO SAFETY HELP. Repeatedly, Texas sends a WR deep, Young floats ball in air, TX WR gets ball. NO SAFETY HELP AT ALL! If Kansas is only rushing 4 men, WTF are the other 8 defenders doing? If you blitz, that would leave you vulnerable for the deep ball. But Kansas was not blitzing.

I watched TX/CO Big 12 championship game. CO defenders would get clean hits on Young but repeatedly miss tackles. But they were getting clean hits. Does Young hope USC defenders are going to bounce off him? Wasn't CO suppose to have one of the better defenses in the Big 12?

I'll guarantee you this. YOUNG WON'T SEE THAT TYPE OF DEFENSE IN THE ROSE BOWL! TX may score 30+ but they will not see that type of defense. That I guarantee.

Remember, OU last 2 years put up HUGE HUGE #'s in Big 12 play. OU offense was spectacular in BIG 12 play. Offensive showcase. IMO, those OU teams offense were better than TX offense this year. BUt that doesn't matter. LSU D held OU offense well below their averages. USC D held OU offense well below their averages. Point being? WHO GIVES A FAWK WHAT YOU DO IN BIG 12 PLAY! Big 12 IMO is like a high school conf. Look a the offenses and defenses in the Big 12. JOKE! QB play is HORRIBLE! This year, Big 12 is the worst EVER!

If Vince Young is not 100% sharp with his passing, this might be USC's easiest BCS bowl game yet. USC is going to make Young beat them through the air. NOT through deep passes that TX and YOUNG love to do. USC doesn't give up BIG PASS PLAYS. If you try and throw deep, it most likely will get picked off, especially if you "float" the ball. USC is going to make Young throw 5-10 yard passes and make crucial 3rd downs. Most of the time, there will be open players to pass too. Young will need to read the defense to find them. He will not get 7 seconds of time. He will have to do this over and over and be very patient. Not force anything. That will prob. be the general USC gameplan. Of course Carroll will tweak it but that is the foundation. It is his philosophy. Most importantly, IT WORKS! IMO, Texas does not run the type of offense that works against this philosophy. In fact, what Texas loves to do is what USC puts focus on taking away. :)
 
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My guess is they are a very good team playing in crap conf. NOT A GREAT TEAM! All the evidence supports my claim but I easily can be proven wrong on Jan. 4th.
You bad mouth Texas' schedule then say "Nothing Texas can do about that". In the next breath you ?inform? us that ?all evidence supports my claim.? What freaking ?evidence? are you referring to? Hold on fellas, here comes the novel.

Texas will be by far the best team the Trojans have seen this season and yes, that includes Notre Dame who may well be shut out in the Fiesta Bowl. If you think the that USC?s defense might be healthy by January 4th, you are going to be shell shocked by the defensive team that Texas will bring to Pasadena.

That?s a promise.

Thanks for turning a thread about the All American team into a "Scooter bashs Texas" thread. How predictable that was I can not even begin to tell you.
 
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The Judge said:
You bad mouth Texas' schedule then say "Nothing Texas can do about that". In the next breath you ?inform? us that ?all evidence supports my claim.? What freaking ?evidence? are you referring to? Hold on fellas, here comes the novel.

Texas will be by far the best team the Trojans have seen this season and yes, that includes Notre Dame who may well be shut out in the Fiesta Bowl. If you think the that USC?s defense might be healthy by January 4th, you are going to be shell shocked by the defensive team that Texas will bring to Pasadena.

That?s a promise.

Thanks for turning a thread about the All American team into a "Scooter bashs Texas" thread. How predictable that was I can not even begin to tell you.

:mj07: ND will be SHUT OUT LOL. That could take the cake has the dumbest remark on the site. Please let me know if you would like to make a bet with me personally.
 

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You bad mouth Texas' schedule then say "Nothing Texas can do about that". In the next breath you ?inform? us that ?all evidence supports my claim.? What freaking ?evidence? are you referring to? Hold on fellas, here comes the novel.

I don't think Texas has been tested with their schedule. Especially when you are talking about playing a team like USC in Jan. 4th. There is only 1 quality win for Texas and that was @OSU. Problem is that was 3+ months ago, beginning of season, OSU had horrible offense at the time. NONE of the teams Texas played this year resemble USC in any way.

Texas can only play the teams on their schedule and I said for the most part they beat them like a great team would. They dominated. :clap: That doesn't mean I have to think Texas is on same level as USC just because they dominated Big 12 play.

I said I easily could be proven wrong but based on the evidence, I think Texas will struggle adjusting to USC. There is not much evidence supporting Texas being able to defend USC. Why? Because they have not been tested against anyone similar to USC. I don't know how anyone can be confident in Texas over USC. Doesn't mean they can't win, but what evidence can someone use to support Texas beating USC. Look at this site. NOBODY has posted any analysis why Texas will beat USC or even cover the spread. Tough to make an argument for Texas because they have not been tested.

Texas will be by far the best team the Trojans have seen this season and yes, that includes Notre Dame who may well be shut out in the Fiesta Bowl.

That is what Iowa, Michigan, and OU fans said before playing USC. WHAT MAKES TEXAS DIFFERENT? You tell me. You can't or at least you have not made any argument.

If you think the that USC?s defense might be healthy by January 4th, you are going to be shell shocked by the defensive team that Texas will bring to Pasadena.

That?s a promise.

I will be shell shocked if Texas holds USC under 30pts.

Thanks for turning a thread about the All American team into a "Scooter bashs Texas" thread. How predictable that was I can not even begin to tell you.

What is the difference between post #4 (YOU POSTED) and post #6 (BY ME). Why is post #4 ok, but post #6 not ok. Second, was my post off topic? :nooo:
 

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Two stupid statements I read today -

1. Notre Dame will get shut out
2. The Trojans will be shell shocked by the team Texas brings to the Rose Bowl

And people have the nerve to criticize Scott
 
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