Still think Portis for Champ Bailey was a smart trade......

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So much for a shut down corner when your defense isnt that good to begin with........

Your QB (Plummer) would have a better chance with a running game with a stud like Portis......


And dont say Denver's defense during the regular season was so special........instead answer this question????

Of all the playoff teams ............was there a worse performance on the defensive side of the ball than the AFC's #2 seeded Denver Broncos today and last week........between NE and Pitts they moved the chains up and down the field at will both games..........
 

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The cornerback and running back are the most overrated position anyways.

Cornerback play is determined by getting pressure on the QB with your defensive front. I would rather have two "average" corners with two DE studs than two "cover" corners with an average defensive line.

RB's are probably the easiest position to replace. There are some elite RBs like LT, S. Alexander, E. James, etc... But you can usually get a "decent" RB in the draft.

I don't think the trade really made a significant impact on either team.
 

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typically i would agree that the rb position is a bit over valued. but when you get a real good one it does make a difference.

especially when the back can rush,block well, and catch. portis is a special back,imo, because he can do all of these. problem is, gibbs ran him to death.
 

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well said maverick, who would have figured Shanahan would be out coached by cowher.....and Plumer choked as a lot of people perdicted. Got to hand it to Pitt they played a great game.
 

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Skins gave up a high draft pick if i remember correctly as well....i think Denver got the better end of the deal personally
 

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s_dooley24 said:
Skins gave up a high draft pick if i remember correctly as well....i think Denver got the better end of the deal personally


Dont think so........straight across......Bailey for Portis.........
 

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Dont think so........straight across......Bailey for Portis.........


NEW YORK (SI.com) -- The Denver Broncos and Washington Redskins have reached an agreement in principle to exchange running back Clinton Portis for cornerback Champ Bailey, provided both teams can reach deal with their new player, SI.com's Peter King is reporting.

It's expected, according to King, that Portis' negotiations with Washington will be easier than Bailey's with Denver because the running back, who has 29 games of NFL experience, won't be able to demand a contract in the same range as Bailey, a five-year veteran. Bailey is expected to command around $8 million per year from the Broncos.

No deal can take place officially until the offseason trade and free agency period begins March 3, although an agreement can be announced before then.

In a Bailey-Portis trade, Denver would also receive Washington's second-round selection in April's draft, an NFL source told The Associated Press on condition of anonymity. That would leave the Redskins with just two picks in this year's draft.

The source said the talks with the Broncos had been held up because Denver wanted to complete a new contract with Pro Bowl linebacker Al Wilson, who agreed to terms Tuesday, before dealing with Washington. The Broncos would then have a better idea of how much they could afford to pay Bailey, who has said he wants to rank among the highest paid defensive players in the league.

The Redskins have protected Bailey by designating him their franchise player. They have made him a one-year, $6.8 million tender, the average of the top five players at his position, tying up valuable salary cap space.

Bailey was given permission to seek a trade after negotiations for a new contract with the Redskins stalled. Bailey turned down a nine-year, $55 million offer last fall because he disagreed with several clauses in the proposal as well as its overall structure.

Portis, who rushed for 1,591 yards last season, has two years remaining on the contract he signed as a second-round draft pick in 2002. Displeased with the $300,000 he made last season, he has hinted he might be a holdout when training camp starts unless the Broncos rework his deal.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.
 

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Champ Bailey had the best year of his career this season.
IMO Denver got the better end definitly.
The AFC West is known for it's high scoring offense's IE lots of passing which = lots of chances for int's. Bailey is a shut down corner
 

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DIRTY Diapers said:
Cornerback play is determined by getting pressure on the QB with your defensive front. I would rather have two "average" corners with two DE studs than two "cover" corners with an average defensive line.

IMO to be a good consistant D you need both.

NY Giants had the best DE duo this season.
However the secondary which is "average gave up alot of big plays.

The DB position is slightly underrated.
 
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