Nothing like a trial lieyer, in the midst of a career of bribing hundreds of "experts", pointing out to us unethical behavior which is own association practices every day
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What's wrong with it you ask?
What's wrong with Freeze and his ilk getting legislation passed around the country allowing him to not be responsible for killing people on the operating table and saying to the parents"opps, sorry but I severed the wrong bile duct, oh well mistakes happen, what the hell, you've got another kid anyway".
What's wrong with lobbyists?
Nothing I guess if you like where this country is and where its heading.
You see clown, I don't. I don't like the medical, insurance, and manufacturers lobby teaming up with the media to convince the public to vote their rights away over some created problem to allow corporate america to increase their margins at the expense of the average gullible dumb american. Yet its happened and continues to happen with minions such as yourself following along in unison to whatever bunch of garbage your sold by Fox news.
You see, qumquat, you started this thread with the concept of how dare the democrats have a murdering senator teach us about ethics. All I'm pointing out is that you have some bought and sold scum bag republicans who have taken tobacco money (which has killed millions) passing it around the floor of the House ready to take over for another bought and sold criminal who just was forced to step down. The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round.
Illegal. No. Tacky and reflective of the state of this country and the mindset of scum such as yourself and Messers Boehner, Barry and Freeze. Absolutely. I think I'm going to go watch Jerimiah Johnson. I feel a need for that right now.
Eddie
What's wrong with Freeze and his ilk getting legislation passed around the country allowing him to not be responsible for killing people on the operating table and saying to the parents"opps, sorry but I severed the wrong bile duct, oh well mistakes happen, what the hell, you've got another kid anyway".
What's wrong with lobbyists?
Nothing I guess if you like where this country is and where its heading.
You see clown, I don't. I don't like the medical, insurance, and manufacturers lobby teaming up with the media to convince the public to vote their rights away over some created problem to allow corporate america to increase their margins at the expense of the average gullible dumb american. Yet its happened and continues to happen with minions such as yourself following along in unison to whatever bunch of garbage your sold by Fox news.
You see, qumquat, you started this thread with the concept of how dare the democrats have a murdering senator teach us about ethics. All I'm pointing out is that you have some bought and sold scum bag republicans who have taken tobacco money (which has killed millions) passing it around the floor of the House ready to take over for another bought and sold criminal who just was forced to step down. The wheels on the bus go round and round, round and round, round and round.
Illegal. No. Tacky and reflective of the state of this country and the mindset of scum such as yourself and Messers Boehner, Barry and Freeze. Absolutely. I think I'm going to go watch Jerimiah Johnson. I feel a need for that right now.
Eddie
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if there are folks in the medical professional that have similiar mental problems and hatred as Freeze has then we need all the legislation in the world to protect us!
None Freeze.
MC, one of my friends in medical school in the late 80's said about 90% of his class was there for the $. Was disgusted with the majority of his classmates. Don't ever let them sell you on the humanitarian crap like he's there to save lives. Wonder how much his premiums have dropped since tort reform went into effect on the windswept plains of Kansas.
Eddie
MC, one of my friends in medical school in the late 80's said about 90% of his class was there for the $. Was disgusted with the majority of his classmates. Don't ever let them sell you on the humanitarian crap like he's there to save lives. Wonder how much his premiums have dropped since tort reform went into effect on the windswept plains of Kansas.
Eddie
whats wrong with making a living by saving lives, healing disease, relieving pain, promoting healthy living, etc. etc?
as opposed to making money screwing with people's careers (and their business/employee's careers) and doing nothing productive using lies, deceit, dishonesty, bribery of "experts" while promoting the blame game in a time of people's grief?
why does EVERY MD have to pay 10-200K EVERY YEAR right out of medical school having done nothing wrong? where is the justice in that?
as opposed to making money screwing with people's careers (and their business/employee's careers) and doing nothing productive using lies, deceit, dishonesty, bribery of "experts" while promoting the blame game in a time of people's grief?
why does EVERY MD have to pay 10-200K EVERY YEAR right out of medical school having done nothing wrong? where is the justice in that?
why does every citizen have to pay a few hundred dollars every 6 months just to drive their car so they wont lose their entire bankroll should some overzealous snake come after them in an ACCIDENT?
Have you no compassion for the middle class family trying to make ends meet???
Or would you rather use deceit to plunder someone's bank account every so often to keep us all in fear?
Have you no compassion for the middle class family trying to make ends meet???
Or would you rather use deceit to plunder someone's bank account every so often to keep us all in fear?
My good Doctor:
I love the way you phrase things.
Whats wrong with making a career by saving lives etc. Absolutely nothing. Nor is there anything wrong with making a career of righting wrongs, suing greedy companies who place profits over peoples lives and insulate themselves in corporate identities and doctors who bury their mistakes.
However, you my deep thinking Doctor do not seem to see it that way. To you its not a person righting wrongs, etc, its a scum bag ambulance chaser on the back of the yellow pages, screwing with peoples careers and raising your premiums and taking money out of your pocket. Just like to me its the 90% of medical students who could give a flying crap about saving lives and curing diseases but are rather more concerned about how much Anthem is going to pay them for an angioplasty. Give me a f***ing break you clown.
Where is the injustice in those insurance premiums you pay? I don't know? Why don't you ask Wayne. Hell, Medical Protective is still trying to recoup there losses from all those dot coms they invested in in the 90's. Doctor, don't you remember, you got your tort reform. Med mal cases are on the decline because you aren't responsible for your mistakes anymore. You won.
Ask Wayne where your premiums are going too. Don't worry, I'm sure you and he will find some way to blame the lawyers (i.e. defensive medicine etc.) How many medical errors did the New England Journal estimate per year? Was it 100k? Yep. And Boehners passing out tobacco money on the House floor.
Now let me see, where is that Robert Redford movie.
Eddie
I love the way you phrase things.
Whats wrong with making a career by saving lives etc. Absolutely nothing. Nor is there anything wrong with making a career of righting wrongs, suing greedy companies who place profits over peoples lives and insulate themselves in corporate identities and doctors who bury their mistakes.
However, you my deep thinking Doctor do not seem to see it that way. To you its not a person righting wrongs, etc, its a scum bag ambulance chaser on the back of the yellow pages, screwing with peoples careers and raising your premiums and taking money out of your pocket. Just like to me its the 90% of medical students who could give a flying crap about saving lives and curing diseases but are rather more concerned about how much Anthem is going to pay them for an angioplasty. Give me a f***ing break you clown.
Where is the injustice in those insurance premiums you pay? I don't know? Why don't you ask Wayne. Hell, Medical Protective is still trying to recoup there losses from all those dot coms they invested in in the 90's. Doctor, don't you remember, you got your tort reform. Med mal cases are on the decline because you aren't responsible for your mistakes anymore. You won.
Ask Wayne where your premiums are going too. Don't worry, I'm sure you and he will find some way to blame the lawyers (i.e. defensive medicine etc.) How many medical errors did the New England Journal estimate per year? Was it 100k? Yep. And Boehners passing out tobacco money on the House floor.
Now let me see, where is that Robert Redford movie.
Eddie
well, there will be 105K next year then
People error, now where is the justice in attorneys making billions of dollars yearly off of our errant human nature???
While having patients paying higher costs, hospitals hiring extra administrators (which i believe leads to more errors), doctors practicing defensive rather than evidenced based medicine (yes that extra uneccessary scan will actually CAUSE cancer on an epidemiological scale) and that extra unecessary biopsy will actually CAUSE an extra bad event or two....yes those MILLIONS of extra C-Sections will cause undue complications for many mothers...etc. etc.
Why should everyone have to jump through hoops so a crooked attorney, who hires a well-paid expertto mislead a jury and be as dishonest as he could be up there, and spend a fortune in doing so???
If there ever was a system that needed reform....this is it!!!
You are scaring many competent possibly future physicians away from the field and many others into early retirement!!!! THIS is reality!!!
As a result, we will even get more errors and bad decisions!!!
You, HasKILL, and your cohorts, are actually putting more patients in danger by claiming to do the very opposite!!
Welcome to reality, sir.
People error, now where is the justice in attorneys making billions of dollars yearly off of our errant human nature???
While having patients paying higher costs, hospitals hiring extra administrators (which i believe leads to more errors), doctors practicing defensive rather than evidenced based medicine (yes that extra uneccessary scan will actually CAUSE cancer on an epidemiological scale) and that extra unecessary biopsy will actually CAUSE an extra bad event or two....yes those MILLIONS of extra C-Sections will cause undue complications for many mothers...etc. etc.
Why should everyone have to jump through hoops so a crooked attorney, who hires a well-paid expertto mislead a jury and be as dishonest as he could be up there, and spend a fortune in doing so???
If there ever was a system that needed reform....this is it!!!
You are scaring many competent possibly future physicians away from the field and many others into early retirement!!!! THIS is reality!!!
As a result, we will even get more errors and bad decisions!!!
You, HasKILL, and your cohorts, are actually putting more patients in danger by claiming to do the very opposite!!
Welcome to reality, sir.
has anyone ever had their school or church gymnasium (which they pay for) OFF LIMITS because they fear a lawsuit if someone gets hurt???
has anyone ever had to build a building for their business with all kinds of extra expenses required for a certain code so that some attorney can't walk in and find some reason to sue them???
has anyone ever had to build a building for their business with all kinds of extra expenses required for a certain code so that some attorney can't walk in and find some reason to sue them???
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And don't forget the "pin heads" that bring class action suits and then pocket millions in fees while each participant in the class action suit gets a free dvd or some such.
Yea beaver, your in a real class career, right there with used car salesmen :mj07:
Eddie While you got your courage up 'lets debate another issue.
What about this for the personal injury crew that dons every cover of every phonebook ect and airs commercials constantantly--if you are a loved one--- blah blah blah.
Lets make a new law to keep them from praying on "less informed".
Lets have insurance companies make everyone an offer before seeing a P.I. attorney--if after all payments are made to the plaintiff after litigation do not equal what insurance co offered --the P.I. has to pay the diff. How would that suit you
---and while on the subject I have yet to see any of you inform "the little guy" that there are many instances that they will have to pay taxes on the whole amount including YOUR 1/3.
and on malpractice premiums there are only a handful of those that will write it anymore at any premium.--and let me tell you another change made recently that increases cost to consumer and lowers benefits. Co-pays for office visits used to include lab and other services in unless farmed out.Not the case in most instances any more. Why because of Haskels jumping at every opp to look for smallest error they can manufacter on doctor. Where regular exray ($50) used to suffice for many exams they are now forced to use cat scans- mri's ect at around $1,500 to "make sure" they cover their ass.
--and what does Eddie tell his lemmings the doctors and insurance co are stealing from you.
GW put a little dent in your operations and isn't finished yet-
When the "little guy" finally realizes that 1/3 of the cost of step ladder he just bought is to cover possible litiogation--he might wake up--but then of course there will always be those with nothing to lose-- looking to hit the LL (legal lottery) who could care less--its their version of the american dream.
What about this for the personal injury crew that dons every cover of every phonebook ect and airs commercials constantantly--if you are a loved one--- blah blah blah.
Lets make a new law to keep them from praying on "less informed".
Lets have insurance companies make everyone an offer before seeing a P.I. attorney--if after all payments are made to the plaintiff after litigation do not equal what insurance co offered --the P.I. has to pay the diff. How would that suit you
---and while on the subject I have yet to see any of you inform "the little guy" that there are many instances that they will have to pay taxes on the whole amount including YOUR 1/3.
and on malpractice premiums there are only a handful of those that will write it anymore at any premium.--and let me tell you another change made recently that increases cost to consumer and lowers benefits. Co-pays for office visits used to include lab and other services in unless farmed out.Not the case in most instances any more. Why because of Haskels jumping at every opp to look for smallest error they can manufacter on doctor. Where regular exray ($50) used to suffice for many exams they are now forced to use cat scans- mri's ect at around $1,500 to "make sure" they cover their ass.
--and what does Eddie tell his lemmings the doctors and insurance co are stealing from you.
GW put a little dent in your operations and isn't finished yet-
When the "little guy" finally realizes that 1/3 of the cost of step ladder he just bought is to cover possible litiogation--he might wake up--but then of course there will always be those with nothing to lose-- looking to hit the LL (legal lottery) who could care less--its their version of the american dream.
Looks like a lot of the Hitler youth have come out for this one. Wayne, you and I have gone back and forth ad nauseum on these issues over the years and frankly my fingers have gone quite arthritic and weary. Yes, Ctown, I have considered a class action lawsuit against the keyboard manufacturer and may in fact bring one. The lawsuit will be brought by me on behalf of everyone who has to type on keyboards against such manufacturers for failing to warn that responding to morons on website chatrooms may cause arthritis.
Of course, I will be able to retire after that one since I will be able to con a moronic jury made up of your peers that most americans needed a warning. I will be able to charge several billion dollars in attorney fees and send all the class action members $.03 and an apple for joining in the lawsuit. Lets see I guess I'll just bribe some expert chiropractor to be my expert and I'll retire.
Is that how its done, Wayne?
Freeze?
Ctown?
Is it?
Is that how its done?
Is that how all of us lawyers are so rich?
Is that how all of us lawyers are causing so many problems for the American people and economy. Boy, you guys don't know how dumb you really are. I mean, I really hope, for your sake, that you way what you say tongue in cheek.
Because if you don't, God help you.
Wayne, I can't stand the yellow pages, late night advertising, ambulance chasing lawyers. All they do is give guys like you and Freeze fodder to feed prejudices. They hurt the majority of lawyers who work there asses off to try and help there clients and earn a buck at the same time.
Most of the pi cases I get are because you clowns low ball people injured in accidents. Once I get involved, the company raises the offer. Thats not cause I'm a great lawyer, its cause many times they try to lowball the client. There are times when a potential client calls and I tell them the offer was fair. But frankly thats less than 60%.
Why is that Wayne? Because your a for profit business. You don't give a flying f*** if the injured party is compensated. All your adjusted cares about is closing the case quickly and for as little as possible. Your adjusters are my best referral source. The yellow pages lawyers are my worst enemy.
Actually Wayneo, I just found out another reason why many of fine physicians are referring so many of their patients out for these "unnecessary' diagnostics such as MRI's and CT's. Been sniffing around lately (you know more lawsuits) and found that a lot of our wonderful physicians, you know, those guys, that Freeze says are interested in saving lives and curing illness etc., lo and behold, have financial interests in many of these open MRI joints.
Well button my bridges.
Can you imagine that!!!! Good old Dr. Freeze can get a lot of mileage out of that. He can send an ortho case down to Joe Blow Open MRI, of which he has a financial interest, and blame it on the lawyers a defensive medicine. Gets $ from ins. co. on the office visit, $ from the ins. co. on the MRI, and pr on the blame the lawyer defensive medicine schtick. win, win,win.
Wayne, you keep on talking about this legal lottery. I know that I must hide my income but do you want to see my 1040? I mean am I that dumb? Where am I missing out? I've been practicing law for quite a few years and must really be missing the boat. And Wayne, I'm really not a bad guy and have quite a few lawyer friends here in the Queen City and unless I'm really missing something, I don't really see a lot of them hitting the legal lottery.
Where is this happening? I mean you really are getting a lot of mileage out of this but I don't really see it in my social group. The only person I know who is in the stratosphere economically is a non-lawyer. He used to post here at MJ's. I believe his name was Cyrus and he was related to royalty.
Eddie
Of course, I will be able to retire after that one since I will be able to con a moronic jury made up of your peers that most americans needed a warning. I will be able to charge several billion dollars in attorney fees and send all the class action members $.03 and an apple for joining in the lawsuit. Lets see I guess I'll just bribe some expert chiropractor to be my expert and I'll retire.
Is that how its done, Wayne?
Freeze?
Ctown?
Is it?
Is that how its done?
Is that how all of us lawyers are so rich?
Is that how all of us lawyers are causing so many problems for the American people and economy. Boy, you guys don't know how dumb you really are. I mean, I really hope, for your sake, that you way what you say tongue in cheek.
Because if you don't, God help you.
Wayne, I can't stand the yellow pages, late night advertising, ambulance chasing lawyers. All they do is give guys like you and Freeze fodder to feed prejudices. They hurt the majority of lawyers who work there asses off to try and help there clients and earn a buck at the same time.
Most of the pi cases I get are because you clowns low ball people injured in accidents. Once I get involved, the company raises the offer. Thats not cause I'm a great lawyer, its cause many times they try to lowball the client. There are times when a potential client calls and I tell them the offer was fair. But frankly thats less than 60%.
Why is that Wayne? Because your a for profit business. You don't give a flying f*** if the injured party is compensated. All your adjusted cares about is closing the case quickly and for as little as possible. Your adjusters are my best referral source. The yellow pages lawyers are my worst enemy.
Actually Wayneo, I just found out another reason why many of fine physicians are referring so many of their patients out for these "unnecessary' diagnostics such as MRI's and CT's. Been sniffing around lately (you know more lawsuits) and found that a lot of our wonderful physicians, you know, those guys, that Freeze says are interested in saving lives and curing illness etc., lo and behold, have financial interests in many of these open MRI joints.
Well button my bridges.
Can you imagine that!!!! Good old Dr. Freeze can get a lot of mileage out of that. He can send an ortho case down to Joe Blow Open MRI, of which he has a financial interest, and blame it on the lawyers a defensive medicine. Gets $ from ins. co. on the office visit, $ from the ins. co. on the MRI, and pr on the blame the lawyer defensive medicine schtick. win, win,win.
Wayne, you keep on talking about this legal lottery. I know that I must hide my income but do you want to see my 1040? I mean am I that dumb? Where am I missing out? I've been practicing law for quite a few years and must really be missing the boat. And Wayne, I'm really not a bad guy and have quite a few lawyer friends here in the Queen City and unless I'm really missing something, I don't really see a lot of them hitting the legal lottery.
Where is this happening? I mean you really are getting a lot of mileage out of this but I don't really see it in my social group. The only person I know who is in the stratosphere economically is a non-lawyer. He used to post here at MJ's. I believe his name was Cyrus and he was related to royalty.
Eddie
Wow Dogs, Dubya is really looking out for the little guy? How much has medical costs come down since Dubya waved his magic wand. The greedy Doctors are still robbing ths country blind, they are terrorists. They don't have bombs or guns but they are terrorists just the same. If Dubya cared about the little guy he would put these doctors in their place. I understand the quacks went to school but I don't think we should have to pay for their entire education every time we get a gall bladder removed.
Ed, I readily admit in the long run i profiteer from your practice of law -- even with my extra overhead. But that doesn't necessarily make it right.
I also have had insurance agents waving fliers in my face trying to get me to sign something. And have dealt with a multitude of patients with similar happenings. We should not need to hire a lawyer for this to not happen. THe insurance industry is shooting themselves in the foot right now.
My predecessors have a lot of blame at their feet with the advent of trial law for bad credentialing and failing to take away licenses.
Again, that in no way makes it right though -- as i end up getting screwed for no reason paying high premiums.
I also have had insurance agents waving fliers in my face trying to get me to sign something. And have dealt with a multitude of patients with similar happenings. We should not need to hire a lawyer for this to not happen. THe insurance industry is shooting themselves in the foot right now.
My predecessors have a lot of blame at their feet with the advent of trial law for bad credentialing and failing to take away licenses.
Again, that in no way makes it right though -- as i end up getting screwed for no reason paying high premiums.
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StevieD said:
a surgeon makes a couple hundred for a gallbladder....a pathologist and radiologist under 100, anesthesia a couple hundred....
where exactly is the doctor robbing you blind???
Eddie Haskell said:
You can always tell when you get under the beaver's skin, he pounds his keyboard almost as much as he pounds his meat. :mj07: :142smilie :142smilie
kosar said:
This guy has been ridiculous for years, but his replies do make me laugh at there absurdity. :mj07:
