Why so many juniors are going pro......

[USCMD]

After reading about the juniors going pro.....players besides Bush and White....I got to thinking about why. Over the last 5 years, only defensive end Kenechi Udeze, wide receiver Mike Williams and middle linebacker Lofa Tatupu had left for the NFL.

Was it dissension or some other internal issue, unique to USC?

It turns out there are many programs suffering similar defections. So why?

Heres an interesting thought.

"A guy on ESPN News said agents are telling them they should bolt now because there may be a revision to the collective bargaining agreement that would limit rookie contracts."

 

[Hokie Fan]

MONEY!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Scott4USC]

Many feel Udeze and Williams made the WRONG choice in going to the NFL. Williams admits it now. Tatupu made the right choice leaving. He was supposed to be a 4th/5th rounder and was drafted in 2nd round and dominated his 1st year in the NFL. He is an awesome story. He was QB for MAINE and then transferred to USC and played MLB and became huge instant success. Now he is one of the best rookies in the NFL.

To answer your question, I look at this way. Hypothetical example.

Leave now and get 5 million per year. Stay in CFB 1 more year and get 7 million per year.

2 years from now, the player who left early has $10 million in his pocket vs the player who stayed in college 1 more year has $7 million. But the player who stayed risked injuries, poor performance etc. Not to mention the player who left early enjoys a full year in luxory. Many of these kids are from POOR families. Never has life anywhere close to luxory. Also the player who left early can invest his money.

Carroll had good saying on this issue. Leaving early is like selling your house. You can get this price in the market now if you sell, but if you wait one more year you will get a higher price. Do you want to wait 1 more year?

 

[The Judge]

Was it dissension or some other internal issue, unique to USC?

I think they are simply tired of losing.

 

[Scott4USC]

I think they are simply tired of losing.

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[The Judge]

Was it dissension or some other internal issue, unique to USC?

I think they are simply tired of losing

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This was not meant to be a joke Scotty. :142smilie

 

[Hokie Fan]

Tatupu is from Plainville Mass
I have worked out with him a few times and talked with his dad alot
(who admits V Tech should of beat them if not for the phantom pass interference call, Take that Scott4USC, as did Lofa)
Great freakin guy Lofa
Down to earth tough guy...
Hated when he went to USC
Did you know he wanted to go to BC but BC told him he was to small and not talented enough..
Thats why he went to Maine...

 

[blgstocks]

Tatupu is from Plainville Mass
I have worked out with him a few times and talked with his dad alot
(who admits V Tech should of beat them if not for the phantom pass interference call, Take that Scott4USC, as did Lofa)
Great freakin guy Lofa
Down to earth tough guy...
Hated when he went to USC
Did you know he wanted to go to BC but BC told him he was to small and not talented enough..
Thats why he went to Maine...

Hokie Fan you continue to amaze me, through reading this post you answered a question that had me wondering for quite sometime


I have a USC football from about 7 years ago, and it got me thinking what started me from rooting against SC (besides the bandwagon and homers like Scott) and it is because of that bogus cal last year in thier first game, where VaTech had SC on the ropes and the refs blow the whistle and Bail SC out and VaTech could never get over that play.
Even the announcers were up in arms about it, and being a big VaTech fan I was as well. That is what started me rooting against SC because it isnt fair when teams are playing against a team + the refs which is what every team has to face playing against SC it seems.

 

[Scott4USC]

I don't understand how people can bitch about that PI call. There are 2 facts that can't be ignored.

#1 ESPN "NEVER" showed a camera angle from the refs point of view. Ref was on opposite sideline and ESPN camera was showing the opposite viewpoint. So we "NEVER" saw what the official who threw the flag saw. That is a fact.

#2 From the camera shot WE DID SEE, the V-Tech WR did in "FACT" have his hands on the USC DB. Whether that warrants a PI is debatable. But we do know the V-Tech WR had his hands on the USC DB and the USC DB ran PAST the play. IMO, momentum def. was part of the reason USC DB ran past the play but was it also partly due to the WR pushing him? We do know the WR had his hands on the USC DB. We also know that we NEVER saw what the REF saw. ESPN only showed the one camera angle and it wasn't from the same viewpoint as the official who threw the flag.

With those 2 arguments, how can anyone bitch about the play? I think it is debatable whether a flag should have been thrown, but nobody should bitch about it.

CASE CLOSED!

 

[Scott4USC]

was not meant to be a joke Scotty. :142smilie

When the USC players have lost only 2 games in the last 3 seasons, your post WAS A JOKE! A funny joke. I enjoyed it and give you credit for good sense of humor!

 

[3 Seconds]

Carroll had good saying on this issue. Leaving early is like selling your house. You can get this price in the market now if you sell, but if you wait one more year you will get a higher price.

Too bad this isnt the case for ML. No way is his stock higher now, than it was last April.

Udeze choice was fine. He has nothing to regret. ** was a bad choice mostly because he thought he would be in the draft, not have to wait a year without playing since the Clarrett challenge thing didnt work out.

 

[3 Seconds]

I don't understand how people can bitch about that PI call. There are 2 facts that can't be ignored.

#1 ESPN "NEVER" showed a camera angle from the refs point of view. Ref was on opposite sideline and ESPN camera was showing the opposite viewpoint. So we "NEVER" saw what the official who threw the flag saw. That is a fact.

#2 From the camera shot WE DID SEE, the V-Tech WR did in "FACT" have his hands on the USC DB. Whether that warrants a PI is debatable. But we do know the V-Tech WR had his hands on the USC DB and the USC DB ran PAST the play. IMO, momentum def. was part of the reason USC DB ran past the play but was it also partly due to the WR pushing him? We do know the WR had his hands on the USC DB. We also know that we NEVER saw what the REF saw. ESPN only showed the one camera angle and it wasn't from the same viewpoint as the official who threw the flag.

With those 2 arguments, how can anyone bitch about the play? I think it is debatable whether a flag should have been thrown, but nobody should bitch about it.

CASE CLOSED!

Please if it was the other way around you would have 100 posts solely explain some bogus reason USC SHOULD have gotten the call. You would still be crying about it. Just another example of your BS USC spin.

You just cant be taken seriously as you see absolute NOTHING objectively.

It a freakin joke. :s4:

CASE CLOSED!

 

[blgstocks]

I don't understand how people can bitch about that PI call. There are 2 facts that can't be ignored.

#1 ESPN "NEVER" showed a camera angle from the refs point of view. Ref was on opposite sideline and ESPN camera was showing the opposite viewpoint. So we "NEVER" saw what the official who threw the flag saw. That is a fact.

#2 From the camera shot WE DID SEE, the V-Tech WR did in "FACT" have his hands on the USC DB. Whether that warrants a PI is debatable. But we do know the V-Tech WR had his hands on the USC DB and the USC DB ran PAST the play. IMO, momentum def. was part of the reason USC DB ran past the play but was it also partly due to the WR pushing him? We do know the WR had his hands on the USC DB. We also know that we NEVER saw what the REF saw. ESPN only showed the one camera angle and it wasn't from the same viewpoint as the official who threw the flag.

With those 2 arguments, how can anyone bitch about the play? I think it is debatable whether a flag should have been thrown, but nobody should bitch about it.

CASE CLOSED!

Scott you are so full of shit, You are a liar because you dont even remember the play. The major debate about the play in question was not whether or not their was interference even though there was none, it was whether or not the ball was catchable IN BOUNDS. Since the ball was well above the head of the WR who was OUT OF BOUNDS it was clearly not catachable.

Reason why I "bitched" about it is because if it wasnt for that play SC probably woulnt have won that game and VTech would have simple as that, refs bail SC out again.

 

[Scott4USC]

Please if it was the other way around you would have 100 posts solely explain some bogus reason USC SHOULD have gotten the call. You would still be crying about it. Just another example of your BS USC spin.

You just cant be taken seriously as you see absolute NOTHING objectively.

It a freakin joke. :s4:

CASE CLOSED!

What I posted was FACTUAL DATA backed up by the ESPN Camera shot SHOWN on ESPN!

CASE CLOSED!

 

[Scott4USC]

Scott you are so full of shit, You are a liar because you dont even remember the play.

I don't remember the play? :mj07: I remember debating the hell out of that play here on MJ's after the game. I can bring up post after post about it. It was talked about quite extensively here at MJ's. :mj07:

The major debate about the play in question was not whether or not their was interference even though there was none, it was whether or not the ball was catchable IN BOUNDS. Since the ball was well above the head of the WR who was OUT OF BOUNDS it was clearly not catachable.

Didn't the V-Tech WR catch the ball? What play are you talking about? I am talking about the long pass by V-Tech where V-Tech WR was called for offensive PI.

Reason why I "bitched" about it is because if it wasnt for that play SC probably woulnt have won that game and VTech would have simple as that, refs bail SC out again.

Even if V-Tech scored a TD on that drive, who knows if they could, but if we give V-Tech 7 more pts, I think there is still strong prob. V-Tech still loses. USC DOMINATED V-Tech in the 2h. USC changed up their offensive play calls late 4th to protect their lead. V-Tech had no clue how to stop Bush. USC was dominating V-tech defensively the entire 2h.

 

[3 Seconds]

What I posted was FACTUAL DATA backed up by the ESPN Camera shot SHOWN on ESPN!

CASE CLOSED!

Here is some FACTUAL DATA.


38 USC Trojans at Texas Longhorns 41

#2 USC (12-1) 7 3 14 14 38 FINAL

#1 TEX (13-0) 0 16 7 18 41

January 4, 2006 - Rose Bowl

 

[blgstocks]

My bad Scott, I was thinking of the PI call AGAINST VT in there loss to NC that year. You were right about me not knowing what play. And I bet you debated the hell out of it last season. So we dont need to bring it up again. Just brought back fond memories of the game, or not so fond ones. Hope you can understand why I thought you were full of shit, when I was thinking of a different PI call in a DIFFERENT game.