UAE(united arab emirates) Co. Poised to Oversee Six U.S. Ports

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this proves what short memories we have in this country...

WASHINGTON -- ""A company in the United Arab Emirates is poised to take over significant operations at six American ports as part of a corporate sale, leaving a country with ties to the Sept. 11 hijackers with influence over a maritime industry considered vulnerable to terrorism.

The Bush administration considers the UAE an important ally in the fight against terrorism since the suicide hijackings and is not objecting to Dubai Ports World's purchase of London-based Peninsular and Oriental Steam Navigation Co.


The $6.8 billion sale is expected to be approved Monday. The British company is the fourth largest ports company in the world and its sale would affect commercial U.S. port operations in New York, New Jersey, Baltimore, New Orleans, Miami and Philadelphia.

DP World said it won approval from a secretive U.S. government panel that considers security risks of foreign companies buying or investing in American industry.

The U.S. Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States "thoroughly reviewed the potential transaction and concluded they had no objection," the company said in a statement to The Associated Press.

The committee earlier agreed to consider concerns about the deal as expressed by a Miami-based company, Eller & Co., according to Eller's lawyer, Michael Kreitzer. Eller is a business partner with the British shipping giant but was not in the running to buy the ports company.

The committee, which could have recommended that President Bush block the purchase, includes representatives from the departments of Treasury, Defense, Justice, Commerce, State and Homeland Security.

The State Department describes the UAE as a vital partner in the fight against terrorism. But the UAE, a loose federation of seven emirates on the Saudi peninsula, was an important operational and financial base for the hijackers who carried out the attacks against New York and Washington, the FBI concluded.

Sen. Charles Schumer, a Democrat whose district includes the New York port, urged the administration to consider the sale carefully.

"America's busiest ports are vital to our economy and to the international economy, and that is why they remain top terrorist targets," Schumer said. "Just as we would not outsource military operations or law enforcement duties, we should be very careful before we outsource such sensitive homeland security duties."

Last month, the White House appointed a senior DP World executive, David C. Sanborn of Virginia, to be the new administrator of the Maritime Administration of the Transportation Department. Sanborn worked as DP World's director of operations for Europe and Latin America.

Critics of the proposed purchase said a port operator complicit in smuggling or terrorism could manipulate manifests and other records to frustrate Homeland Security's already limited scrutiny of shipping containers and slip contraband past U.S. Customs inspectors.

"When you have a foreign government involved, you are injecting foreign national interests," Kreitzer said. "A country that may be a friend of ours today may not be on the same side tomorrow. You don't know in advance what the politics of that country will be in the future."

Shipping experts noted that many of the world's largest port companies are not based in the U.S., and they pointed to DP World's strong economic interest in operating ports securely and efficiently.


"Does this pose a national security risk? I think that's pushing the envelope," said Stephen E. Flynn, who studies maritime security at the New York-based Council on Foreign Relations. "It's not impossible to imagine one could develop an internal conspiracy, but I'd have to assign it a very low probability."

Changing management over the U.S. ports "doesn't offer al-Qaida any opportunities it doesn't have now," said James Lewis, who worked with the U.S. committee at the State and Commerce departments. "It's in Dubai's interest to make sure this runs well. There is strong economic incentive to be sure these worries never materialize."

Flynn and others said even under foreign control, U.S. ports will continue to be run by unionized American employees. "You're not going have a bunch of UAE citizens working the docks," Flynn said. "They're longshoremen, vested in high-paying jobs. Most of them are Archie Bunker-kind of Americans."

Peninsular and Oriental and DP World set approval by the U.S. security committee as a condition for the sale. In regulatory papers, the companies said either the committee must agree not to formally investigate the purchase or Bush must not move to block the sale for national security purposes.

Since the Sept. 11 attacks, the FBI has said the money for the strikes was transferred to the hijackers primarily through the UAE's banking system, and much of the operational planning for the attacks took place inside the UAE.

Many of the hijackers traveled to the U.S. through the UAE. Also, the hijacker who steered United Airlines flight into the World Trade Center's south tower, Marwan al-Shehhi, was born in the UAE.

After the attacks, U.S. Treasury Department officials complained about a lack of cooperation by the UAE and other Arab countries trying to track Osama bin Laden's bank accounts.""

i heard a guy say on the news that the" profit motive was to strong for these guys to let anything happen at one of these ports"...that`s an american mindset...

he`s talking about people that don`t care if they die...as long as they can kill thousands of infidels in the process...

first iran requests direct flights to the u.s...and most of us laughed at that....now this...only,this one`s actually happening....

and we`ve got "archie bunker`s" manning the gates?...

"Does this pose a national security risk? I think that's pushing the envelope," said Stephen E. Flynn, who studies maritime security at the New York-based Council on Foreign Relations. "It's not impossible to imagine one could develop an internal conspiracy, but I'd have to assign it a very low probability."


a very low probability?....that`s not good enough...


first the border...now this....i agree with chuck schumer....he`s pretty much hawkish on the terror issue...for a democrat....

the bush administartion is really scaring me now...possibly our biggest security asset(the oceans, for god`s sake)are being nullified...

there`s not enough money in the world to take this kind of chance....it`s irresponsible...

we have enough trouble with insurgents infiltrating the iraqi security recruiting process....why can`t that happen here?

this country has lost it`s collective minds...the administration seems to have collectively misplaced their left lobes on this one.......i don`t know what to say...it`s bizarre..

the fox is truly in the henhouse..
 
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this country has lost it`s collective minds...
of all you've ever said, i agree with this the most.

this is just more indication of how sold out we are to the ME. everything we do is more and more indication of that.

countries like UAE, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait kind of fly under the radar. They are in fact extremely loyal to muslim extremists, but we give them literally our livelihood.

If I believed Bush when he said he wants to promote alternate fuels it'd be one thing, but he doesn't and he definitely won't. We probably still have to learn a few more hard lessons before we make real changes.

9-11 shocked us, but didn't change anything. How many of us actually changed the way we live? I bought a hybrid at the risk of losing fine Vegas pussy, but that was still a minor sacrifice. None of us have actually done a damn thing.

If anyone thinks the Saudi Royal Family doesn't know the exact location of Osama Bin Laden, then you are clearly not a wise gambler. Chances are they know, but we are too sold out to them to do a damn thing about it.

This is not a knock on either political side (and I appreciate that Weasel criticized Bush in this post), someone from one of the sides needs to fox (i meant 'fix', but will leave fox because i must have made a freudian slip) this hypocritical relationship or the next "lesson" we learn will be much worse than 9-11.

An afterthought - Iraq had NO ties to 9-11 but we invaded them, UAE has proveable tangible ties and we actually give them more access to our security.....

then again, SA has tangible ties too, but we provide them the most expenbsive and hevily secured embassy in our country.

I hope the next wake up call will fix all this.
 

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i hope the next wake-up call doesn`t kill 10,000( or maybe 100,000) americans and render a large port city null and void for several decades....

iraq?...

as far as iraq goes,as i`ve said,it was a tough call....a lesson in objective reality...

many people are arrogant engough to believe that they "know objective reality" as it really is...after the fact....... many people are paralyzed into inaction because they never have enough information to make an educated guess about the right decision...

in the real world, major decisions are often made based upon incomplete information......when these siituations arise, you must think of the consequences of being wrong and the probabilities involved in worst case scenarios.....

hypothetical...pick a single car about to enter the u.s.. from canada...... the probability that this particular car is carrying a suitcase nuclear bomb is very, very low..... but,you don`t know,for sure, what`s in the trunk of this particular car. ....

you have two options: wave the car through without checking the trunk or stop the car and check to see what is inside....what is the proper course of action?.....

the proper course of action depends on the consequences of being wrong.....if you stop the car, and find that there is nothing in the trunk, you have inconvenienced the driver..... also, since you must repeat the action several thousand times a day, there is also the cost of hiring additional car checkers...... if you never find a bomb then you have wasted precious resources that could have been used in other places.


imagine, though, that you don't stop the car and it does have a nuclear bomb in it. ......

that`s why this port thing has me so upset...after undertaking something as significant as the iraqi invasion...

iraq`s not the first time....estimating international threats has always been based on incomplete information....... we didn't know just how poor the soviet military arsenal was during the cold war. ....

we didn't know that nuclear weapons were already in cuba during the missile crisis.

we don't know,to a certainty,that iran really intends to build a nuclear weapon....

we don't know the extent to which al qaeda has been destroyed....

we did, and still do have to base policy decisions on incomplete information....

it was not only our information...but all of europe`s intelligence that indicated the same conclusion....

all those u.n. resolutions...over a decade of attempted "inspections"...weren`t done on a whim...

and it seems that information is now beginning to trickle out about the possibility of weapons being shipped to syria or possibly buried in the desert...

i wouldn`t bet the farm that the book is closed on this issue...

that how i see it...i get all that...but,

back on point with this port issue....i think we all can agree,it`s at the very least scary......clearly irresponsible(at least to me).....at worst a potential disaster of unimaginable magnitude...

i can`t believe anybody would be willing to roll the dice on something like this...

and i agree...the iraq invasion looks downright silly,when you think of potentially giving people with a history of animous toward the west,the keys to the kingdom...

it`s such a contradiction,it makes you wonder wtf the administration can be thinking....

i wonder how many palms were greased to allow this shit to move forward....
 

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GW I agree with much you have said above. This to me is like letting China have tech secrets.
 

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it`s getting worse,guys...

i just ran into a bunch of sheiks/u.a.e.royalty cracking crabs at my favorite spot in dundalk(maryland)..... :scared i thought crabs weren`t "haram"?...they`d better check with the local dundalk imam before picking up that mallet......lol.....


let`s see.....carter gave away the panama canal, and clinton gave its operations contract to the chinese communists a decade or so ago.....

now bush is outdoing them both by giving actual u.s. ports to the islamic fascists.....

:142crying
 
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