Greatest Shooter Ever

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nice half: 2-11 0-3 from three and a bunch of turnovers

1) must have been the acc defense

2) must be tired from the ceremony sunday

3) must have been the tight rims

4) maybe it's the lighting in the building

wait....maybe it's because he not even in the top 100 in 3pt shooting % THIS YEAR....no that cant be it because he's the greatest shooter ever in college basketball

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tough to argue hes scored the most points in ACC history, hes having an off night. Doesnt say anything about him being a bad shooter. I hate duke, but jj is a great shooter, not going to say he is the greatest.
 

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One of the best shooters I've ever seen. I don't take that away from him. I'd like Redick if it wasn't for all the other crap. The flopping/flailing to get calls, the no-calls on defense, etc. He's not as big of a bitch as someone like Melchioni, but he's def. a Duke player.
 

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at what point will people begin to look at his STATS instead of just believing the convential wisdom that he is one of the all time best shooters in college basketball history????

a good scorer......obviously
great ft shooter....indeed
great range.....yes
great shooter.....not even close, his shooting % have ALWAYS been average to below average
 

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gjn23 said:
at what point will people begin to look at his STATS instead of just believing the convential wisdom that he is one of the all time best shooters in college basketball history????

a good scorer......obviously
great ft shooter....indeed
great range.....yes
great shooter.....not even close, his shooting % have ALWAYS been average to below average

LOL...this is hilarious...not even close to a great shooter? Other than playing Duke on the m/l tonight and having sour grapes about potentially losing a lot of dough, not sure what would compel ANYONE (duke fan or hater) to make a statement like that...
 

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i have no money on this game

take away the guys name and the team he plays for

does the 120th rated 3 point shooter in ncaa this year with a % in the high 30"s and a career 3pt % in the 30's sound like a GREAT SHOOTER???????

guess i want to define my great shooter as those who take plenty of threes and actually make them
 

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guess the avatar trumps the truth

this is why people hate duke.....dont let the facts get in the way of a love affair
 

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gjn23 said:
i have no money on this game

take away the guys name and the team he plays for

does the 120th rated 3 point shooter in ncaa this year with a % in the high 30"s and a career 3pt % in the 30's sound like a GREAT SHOOTER???????

guess i want to define my great shooter as those who take plenty of threes and actually make them

Not sure what you are talking about.
Going into tonite Redick is 44.8% from 3 not in the 30's.His career has shot 39.5,39.5,40.3,and 44.8. Average over 40%. FG% is 51.3 this season.

I hate the guy as much as the next guy,but he is putting up the numbers this season.

Find me another guard doing this.
Only one I can find playing at this level is Lofton.
 

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Find me another guard doing this.
Only one I can find playing at this level is Lofton.

jekel foster for ohio state is putting up pretty obscene numbers as well.

53% from the floor
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49% from 3pt range (65-132)
 

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lofton, by comparion, is

49% from the floor
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48% from 3pt range (92-193)

so he's kept a near-50% clip and shot 60 more 3s than foster
 

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He is.
The players are out there that match his numbers and dont get attention.
Redick is somewhat overrated wearing the Duke jersey and put Vitale doing the game.
Forget about it.

I agree Vitale needs to stop creaming his pants over Redick, but he is a gamer who can shoot.No question and I hate him.
 

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wait....there are guys THIS year shotting a significantly better % than the greatest shooter ever????
 

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gjn23 said:
wait....there are guys THIS year shotting a significantly better % than the greatest shooter ever????

The only 2 people that I have ever heard call him the greatest shooter ever is Vitale and you.

Who keeps saying greatest of all time?
 

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Im with you gjn23, this guy is a ****ing joke, I mean he is shooting 51.3 (according to espn, but you cant trust them). People falling in love with that % player, I hate that. They are a lot of players with a better average than the "greatest shooter ever" C?mon peple, kind of remain me of the NBA season, I heard yesterday an argument between 2 assholes, one of them said that Kobe is the best shooter and the other told him it was Iverson, so I told both of them. "Listen to me, are you ****ing nuts, those two morons arent even on the best 50 shooting %, the best shooter ever has to be shaq oneal he is the number 1 on the % list". Sometimes peolple doesnt realize the facts. By the way congrats on your duke ml win, you didnt need a great day from TBSE.
 

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lets see....the entire espn "staff" quotes this as fact......even bill simmons with no knowledge of college basketball says that he is the greatest shooter ever; and his only rivals are mark price, chris mullin and steve kerr (oh, you mean the guy with a 57% career mark from the 3 point line rivals the guy with the 39% mark from the line????)

the guy goes 2-17, missing layups, wide open threes and patrick and one eye are gushing over him and how they guarantee his next shot is going down......when he hits a wide open 15ft shot they scream and gush about his guts and how he bounced back....

they guy is what he is:

a great ft shooter whose improved his overall game to the point where he is a great scorer.......his shot selection is questionable and his shooting % is pedestrian.....

why are these concepts so hard for people to believe????
 

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gjn23 said:
lets see....the entire espn "staff" quotes this as fact......even bill simmons with no knowledge of college basketball says that he is the greatest shooter ever; and his only rivals are mark price, chris mullin and steve kerr (oh, you mean the guy with a 57% career mark from the 3 point line rivals the guy with the 39% mark from the line????)

the guy goes 2-17, missing layups, wide open threes and patrick and one eye are gushing over him and how they guarantee his next shot is going down......when he hits a wide open 15ft shot they scream and gush about his guts and how he bounced back....

they guy is what he is:

a great ft shooter whose improved his overall game to the point where he is a great scorer.......his shot selection is questionable and his shooting % is pedestrian.....

why are these concepts so hard for people to believe????
Agree with everything you say except the last comment about his shooting percentage. You agree that he is a great scorer but the kid is not dunking the ball to get his points like many great scorers, hes mostly shooting the ball.
YOU and V or the only ones saying greatest ever, you make an ass out of yourself by saying he is an average shooter. It doesnt matter, I really think alot of your stuff is acurate and humorous with duke, I just wish that you would quit this nonsense.
Before he was going for ACC scoring leader you were saying that he wasnt very good period, now you are saying well hes a good scorer, (i geuss great in your book would mean being in the top 10 of scorers ever) which he very well could be. Hes a great scorer a great shooter and a great college basketball player. Will probably be a Battier or worse in the pros but give the kid credit, and drop it
 
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