Democrats Offer National Security Platform

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i'm for whatever is beneficial to the american public.....but it is pretty transparent ?....no ?

By LIZ SIDOTI
Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON


Eyeing House and Senate elections this fall, Democrats are stepping up their effort to cut into the public perception that Republicans are stronger on national security.

Congressional Democrats vow to provide U.S. agents with the resources to hunt down Osama bin Laden and ensure a "responsible redeployment of U.S. forces" from Iraq in 2006 in a national security policy statement House and Senate Democratic leaders were announcing Wednesday.

"We need a new direction on national security, and leaders with policies that are tough and smart. That is what Democrats offer," Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said in remarks prepared for delivery Wednesday.

His counterpart in the House, Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., said Democrats were providing a fresh strategy _ "one that is strong and smart, which understands the challenges America faces in a post 9/11 world, and one that demonstrates that Democrats are the party of real national security."

Republicans criticized the statement as an election-year stunt.

"I trust in the common sense of the American people to see these efforts for what they are: misguided political attacks that are simply a bob-and-weave effort by those who have no real solutions or proposals of their own," Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas, said.

The Democratic statement lacks specific details of a plan to capture bin Laden, the al-Qaida chief who has evaded U.S. forces in the more than four years since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks. But Democrats suggest they will double the number of special forces and add more spies to increase the chances of finding al-Qaida's elusive leader.

Democrats also do not set a deadline for when all of the 132,000 American troops now in Iraq should be withdrawn.

They say: "We will ensure 2006 is a year of significant transition to full Iraqi sovereignty, with the Iraqis assuming primary responsibility for security and governing their country and with the responsible redeployment of U.S. forces."

The latest in a series of party policy statements for 2006, the Democrats' national security platform comes seven months before voters decide who will control the House and Senate.

Bush's job approval ratings are in the mid- to high-30s, and Democrats consistently have about a 10 percentage point lead over Republicans when people are asked who they want to see in control of Congress.

With the public skeptical of the Iraq war and Republicans and Democrats alike questioning Bush's war policies, Democrats aim to force Republicans to distance themselves from the president on Iraq and national security or rubber-stamp what Democrats contend is a failed policy.

Democratic strategists say their polling shows Democrats leading in all other areas _ such as the economy, health care, education and retirement security _ and having closed a gap in polls with Republicans on national security.

Republicans characterized the Democrats' platform as tough election- year talk that isn't backed up by the party's record.

"This is more of the same from the party that opposes this president's effort to keep our country safe," said Tracey Schmitt, a Republican National Committee spokeswoman.

Overall, the Democratic position paper covers party policy positions on homeland security, the war on terror, the military, Iraq and energy security. However, it contains many of the same proposals Democrats have offered over the past year.

For months, House and Senate Democrats have tried to craft a comprehensive position on national security, but they have splintered, primarily over Iraq.

Republicans have sought to use that division to their own political advantage, claiming that Democrats simply attack the president and his fellow Republicans without presenting proposals of their own.
 

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Sounds like your not willing to give them the same benefit of the doubt that offer to Republicans.

Soooo, Manson et al make a big deal about no solutions ever being offered up by the dems. Now there's finally a plan which makes the news, and it's disregarded as transparent.

OKeee dokeee. Let's just stay the course, thousand points of light.
 

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"Congressional Democrats vow to provide U.S. agents with the resources to hunt down Osama bin Laden"

if memory serves me correctly "THEY" didn't have to hunt for him when they were in--in fact all they had to do was pick him up at Sudan jail.

Hmm maybe they could show some supporting facts on strong on terror and list some they captured when they were in power.

Only way they even make liberals believe they are strong terror is if they get Bill and Hilliary on TV doing the duel finger shake--
or maybe Kerry/Edwards have finally got permission from the Spanish-French and Germans--Ya think? :)

Lets see we could have the Moveon militia--being transported by Air America with the ACLU embedded to make sure terrorists rights were not violated--interesting alternatives anyway. ;)
 

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DOGS THAT BARK said:
if memory serves me correctly "THEY" didn't have to hunt for him when they were in--in fact all they had to do was pick him up at Sudan jail.
It wasn't that simple and you know it. I sure as hell don't remember the Republican congress screaming at that time.
 

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not sure what plan these same democrats have offered in the last 4 years

all of a sudden they have all the answers?

lmao
 

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smurphy said:
It wasn't that simple and you know it. I sure as hell don't remember the Republican congress screaming at that time.

No, they only screamed when bombs were lobbed into an Al Qaeda camp about 12 hours too late about the tail wagging the dog.

I'm going to make a promise, once the Democrats control the Executive, Legislative, and Judicial branches, I'm not going to blame the Republicans for anything - zilch. But don't worry, help's on the way.

Dogs, this links for you - A search of "national security policy statement" on yahoo!

Democrats Offer National Security Strategy
AP via Yahoo! News - 2 hours, 26 minutes ago
Democrats on Wednesday proposed a wide-ranging strategy for protecting Americans at home and abroad, an election-year effort aimed at changing public perception that Republicans are stronger on national security. Republicans, for their part, criticized the national security policy statement as a stunt.
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Democrats Offer National Security Platform
Minneapolis-St. Paul Star Tribune - Mar 29 2:15 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) - Eyeing House and Senate elections this fall, Democrats are stepping up their effort to cut into the public perception that Republicans are stronger on national security. Congressional Democrats vow to provide U.S. agents with the resources to hunt down Osama bin Laden and ensure a "responsible redeployment of U.S. forces'' from Iraq in 2006 in a national security policy
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Democrats Offer National Security Platform
AP via Yahoo! News - Mar 29 11:10 AM
Democrats on Wednesday proposed a wide-ranging strategy for protecting Americans at home and abroad, an election-year effort aimed at changing public perception that Republicans are stronger on national security.
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Democrats Detail Security Policy
Washington Post - 1 hour, 27 minutes ago
Emboldened by President Bush's declining approval ratings, Democrats unveiled a national security platform yesterday for the midterm elections that stresses renewed focus on capturing Osama bin Laden, reducing the U.S. presence in Iraq and stepped up protection at home.
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CNN.com - Mar 29 8:38 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) -- Eyeing House and Senate elections this fall, Democrats are stepping up their effort to cut into the public perception that Republicans are stronger on national security.
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Democrats Offer National Security Strategy
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With House and Senate Elections This Fall, Democrats Offer National Security Strategy
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Democrats Offer National Security Platform
ABC News - Mar 29 11:36 AM
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Fox News - Mar 29 7:42 AM

Democrats prepare to release their national security agenda with plans to change the public perception that Republicans' policies are stronger.
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Democrats Offer National Security Platform
 

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dr. freeze said:
not sure what plan these same democrats have offered in the last 4 years

all of a sudden they have all the answers?

lmao
What the hell could the Dems do the last 4 years? They had zero power. Again, very funny that they were blasted for offering no solutions and now that a solution is publicized, it's blasted. Can't win with some people.
 

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In all seriousness Bobby I have no doubt if the right Dems were in office they would do fine job on terror--the prob is the money and movement is from the left of the Dems and I don't see a leopard changing spots. In Clintons defence I would not call him a leftist in nature and did fair job in making left think he was doing their bidding while generally staying main line--I do fault him for not moving on what he knew had to be done.On the missles at camp--I applaud him for his efforts --however prob was delay in time they had info until they moved on it--and that was not necessarily his fault entirely--but goes back to him not wanting to step on toes or willingness to make tough decisions that could have consequences.
 

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What the hell could the Dems do the last 4 years? They had zero power. Again, very funny that they were blasted for offering no solutions and now that a solution is publicized, it's blasted. Can't win with some people.

then why do i constantly see bills proposed with democrat's names on them???

why are you making excuses for a group of people who have apparantly been either 1. witholding solutions or 2. not caring enough to come up with one?

Why would any patriotic American, in this time of terrorism, withhold such plan until politically expedient???
 

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Maybe my memory is bad but what solutions have the Republicans come up with? So far they have been wrong on everything. Wrong on WMD, wrong on the mushroom cloud, wrong on we would be greeted as liberators, wrong on the cost of the war, wrong on the length of the war, wrong on protecting our boarders and unable to capture Bin Laden. Their big solution to all these wrongs seem to be "Stay the course."
 

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dr. freeze said:
then why do i constantly see bills proposed with democrat's names on them???

why are you making excuses for a group of people who have apparantly been either 1. witholding solutions or 2. not caring enough to come up with one?

Why would any patriotic American, in this time of terrorism, withhold such plan until politically expedient???

What the Heck are you babbling about now?!? Are you saying that you constantly see bills proposed with democrats name on them, and then wonder why a Republican controlled House and Senate won't pass them? Or was your first line tongue in cheek that totally was typed incorrectly?

It's so funny to watch the conservatives here spin this. "You have no plan...blah blah..." and then when one comes out that embarrasses conservatives they call it politics. You guys are laughable. Like i said...you try to frame an issue and then if it goes outside your little frame it is off base, politics or wacko liberalism.

I'll tell you right now, I don't care if it IS politics, if it tries to do something to fix the complete mess that has been created by the people in charge.

Imagine, the democrats preparing for elections coming up, and they are accused of playing politics. What else should they do, even if that's all they are doing? Now, only democrats look at things from a political viewpoint during an election year runup?

GOD you guys are weak sometimes.
 

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Sounds like your not willing to give them the same benefit of the doubt that offer to Republicans.


smurphy......

you are correct...i should give the dems the benefit of the doubt....

but for years people said that the dems had no solutions to the terror problem.......& for years the dems had no "platform" concerning terrorism......

now that it's an election year they all of a sudden come up with this......it just strikes me as political..

i also have a hard time with harry reid & nancy pelosi out front on this.....

imo it would have been more credible with a more centrist democrat leading the way...
 

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AR182 said:
now that it's an election year they all of a sudden come up with this......it just strikes me as political..

Well, of course it's political. Please tell me what the point would be for them to come out with this in a non-election year.

With no possibility of a platform effecting change via an election everybody would be like, 'oh, that's nice, now back to 'the course.'

Do you really think this stubborn administration would take a step back and say, 'hey, there's a few good ideas in there, maybe we'll change things up a little?'
 

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kosar said:
Well, of course it's political. Please tell me what the point would be for them to come out with this in a non-election year.

With no possibility of a platform effecting change via an election everybody would be like, 'oh, that's nice, now back to 'the course.'

Do you really think this stubborn administration would take a step back and say, 'hey, there's a few good ideas in there, maybe we'll change things up a little?'


with the way the iraq situation has been over the last few years.......

& with people in the media saying that the dems don't offer any solutions, i think the dems could have presented their ideas way in advance, especially with bush's poll numbers sinking.....

i agree with you that the bush administration would not have followed anything the dems presented, but i think they could have been hammering their case over & over to the american public.....everytime something negative happened in iraq, somebody in the dems could have gone on tv & said something to the effect...."you see bush's ideas are not working, this is what we will do when we're in office"...it's never too late to campaign...

i think that would put tremendous pressure on bush & the republicans.....

btw kosar.....

are you impressed that after 51/2 years i finally know how to work the quotes ?

i owe all my success to bbc....god bless him (lol)
 

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AR has gone from hopeless novice to double black diamond expert quote master in under a week. Absolutely amazing to see his progress.

Maybe your incredible story of hope will encourage DTB to discover his potential.
 

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"Maybe your incredible story of hope will encourage DTB to discover his potential."

Hard to teach old dogs new tricks MC. ;)

Will be gone for week starting Sunday and will try and master it when I get back.

I know how to work spell check--but never use which is obvious :)
--takes too much effort to do it especially if implementing Thesaurus to find big words alla Eddie.
 

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The Dem's should say nothing. The Reb's have nothing going that great. In fact polls show the American folks have no faith in any chit coming from W H. The Reb's are starting to eat there own. Dems say nothing and win by doing so.
 
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