The Last Helicopter - Bush Mideast Policy

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'The Last Helicopter'
Mideast dictators try to "wait Bush out." They may be miscalculating.

BY AMIR TAHERI
Wednesday, March 29, 2006 12:01 a.m.

Hassan Abbasi has a dream--a helicopter doing an arabesque in cloudy skies to avoid being shot at from the ground. On board are the last of the "fleeing Americans," forced out of the Dar al-Islam (The Abode of Islam) by "the Army of Muhammad." Presented by his friends as "The Dr. Kissinger of Islam," Mr. Abbasi is "professor of strategy" at the Islamic Republic's Revolutionary Guard Corps University and, according to Tehran sources, the principal foreign policy voice in President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's new radical administration.
For the past several weeks Mr. Abbasi has been addressing crowds of Guard and Baseej Mustadafin (Mobilization of the Dispossessed) officers in Tehran with a simple theme: The U.S. does not have the stomach for a long conflict and will soon revert to its traditional policy of "running away," leaving Afghanistan and Iraq, indeed the whole of the Middle East, to be reshaped by Iran and its regional allies.

To hear Mr. Abbasi tell it the entire recent history of the U.S. could be narrated with the help of the image of "the last helicopter." It was that image in Saigon that concluded the Vietnam War under Gerald Ford. Jimmy Carter had five helicopters fleeing from the Iranian desert, leaving behind the charred corpses of eight American soldiers. Under Ronald Reagan the helicopters carried the corpses of 241 Marines murdered in their sleep in a Hezbollah suicide attack. Under the first President Bush, the helicopter flew from Safwan, in southern Iraq, with Gen. Norman Schwarzkopf aboard, leaving behind Saddam Hussein's generals, who could not believe why they had been allowed live to fight their domestic foes, and America, another day. Bill Clinton's helicopter was a Black Hawk, downed in Mogadishu and delivering 16 American soldiers into the hands of a murderous crowd.

According to this theory, President George W. Bush is an "aberration," a leader out of sync with his nation's character and no more than a brief nightmare for those who oppose the creation of an "American Middle East." Messrs. Abbasi and Ahmadinejad have concluded that there will be no helicopter as long as George W. Bush is in the White House. But they believe that whoever succeeds him, Democrat or Republican, will revive the helicopter image to extricate the U.S. from a complex situation that few Americans appear to understand.

Mr. Ahmadinejad's defiant rhetoric is based on a strategy known in Middle Eastern capitals as "waiting Bush out." "We are sure the U.S. will return to saner policies," says Manuchehr Motakki, Iran's new Foreign Minister.

Mr. Ahmadinejad believes that the world is heading for a clash of civilizations with the Middle East as the main battlefield. In that clash Iran will lead the Muslim world against the "Crusader-Zionist camp" led by America. Mr. Bush might have led the U.S. into "a brief moment of triumph." But the U.S. is a "sunset" (ofuli) power while Iran is a sunrise (tolu'ee) one and, once Mr. Bush is gone, a future president would admit defeat and order a retreat as all of Mr. Bush's predecessors have done since Jimmy Carter.

Mr. Ahmadinejad also notes that Iran has just "reached the Mediterranean" thanks to its strong presence in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and the Palestinian territories. He used that message to convince Syrian President Bashar al-Assad to adopt a defiant position vis-?-vis the U.N. investigation of the murder of Rafiq Hariri, a former prime minister of Lebanon. His argument was that once Mr. Bush is gone, the U.N., too, will revert to its traditional lethargy. "They can pass resolutions until they are blue in the face," Mr. Ahmadinejad told a gathering of Hezbollah, Hamas and other radical Arab leaders in Tehran last month.

According to sources in Tehran and Damascus, Mr. Assad had pondered the option of "doing a Gadhafi" by toning down his regime's anti-American posture. Since last February, however, he has revived Syria's militant rhetoric and dismissed those who advocated a rapprochement with Washington. Iran has rewarded him with a set of cut-price oil, soft loans and grants totaling $1.2 billion. In response Syria has increased its support for terrorists going to fight in Iraq and revived its network of agents in Lebanon, in a bid to frustrate that country's democratic ambitions.

It is not only in Tehran and Damascus that the game of "waiting Bush out" is played with determination. In recent visits to several regional capitals, this writer was struck by the popularity of this new game from Islamabad to Rabat. The general assumption is that Mr. Bush's plan to help democratize the heartland of Islam is fading under an avalanche of partisan attacks inside the U.S. The effect of this assumption can be witnessed everywhere.

In Pakistan, Pervez Musharraf has shelved his plan, forged under pressure from Washington, to foster a popular front to fight terrorism by lifting restrictions against the country's major political parties and allowing their exiled leaders to return. There is every indication that next year's elections will be choreographed to prevent the emergence of an effective opposition. In Afghanistan, Hamid Karzai, arguably the most pro-American leader in the region, is cautiously shaping his post-Bush strategy by courting Tehran and playing the Pushtun ethnic card against his rivals.

In Turkey, the "moderate" Islamist government of Recep Tayyip Erdogan is slowly but surely putting the democratization process into reverse gear. With the post-Bush era in mind, Mr. Erdogan has started a purge of the judiciary and a transfer of religious endowments to sections of the private sector controlled by his party's supporters. There are fears that next year's general election would not take place on a level playing field.

Even in Iraq the sentiment that the U.S. will not remain as committed as it has been under Mr. Bush is producing strange results. While Shiite politicians are rushing to Tehran to seek a reinsurance policy, some Sunni leaders are having second thoughts about their decision to join the democratization process. "What happens after Bush?" demands Salih al-Mutlak, a rising star of Iraqi Sunni leaders. The Iraqi Kurds have clearly decided to slow down all measures that would bind them closer to the Iraqi state. Again, they claim that they have to "take precautions in case the Americans run away."

There are more signs that the initial excitement created by Mr. Bush's democratization project may be on the wane. Saudi Arabia has put its national dialogue program on hold and has decided to focus on economic rather than political reform. In Bahrain, too, the political reform machine has been put into rear-gear, while in Qatar all talk of a new democratic constitution to set up a constitutional monarchy has subsided. In Jordan the security services are making a spectacular comeback, putting an end to a brief moment of hopes for reform. As for Egypt, Hosni Mubarak has decided to indefinitely postpone local elections, a clear sign that the Bush-inspired scenario is in trouble. Tunisia and Morocco, too, have joined the game by stopping much-advertised reform projects while Islamist radicals are regrouping and testing the waters at all levels.

But how valid is the assumption that Mr. Bush is an aberration and that his successor will "run away"? It was to find answers that this writer spent several days in the U.S., especially Washington and New York, meeting ordinary Americans and senior leaders, including potential presidential candidates from both parties. While Mr. Bush's approval ratings, now in free fall, and the increasingly bitter American debate on Iraq may lend some credence to the "helicopter" theory, I found no evidence that anyone in the American leadership elite supported a cut-and-run strategy.

The reason was that almost all realized that the 9/11 attacks have changed the way most Americans see the world and their own place in it. Running away from Saigon, the Iranian desert, Beirut, Safwan and Mogadishu was not hard to sell to the average American, because he was sure that the story would end there; the enemies left behind would not pursue their campaign within the U.S. itself. The enemies that America is now facing in the jihadist archipelago, however, are dedicated to the destruction of the U.S. as the world knows it today.

Those who have based their strategy on waiting Mr. Bush out may find to their cost that they have, once again, misread not only American politics but the realities of a world far more complex than it was even a decade ago. Mr. Bush may be a uniquely decisive, some might say reckless, leader. But a visitor to the U.S. soon finds out that he represents the American mood much more than the polls suggest.

Mr. Taheri is author of "L'Irak: Le Dessous Des Cartes" (Editions Complexe, 2002).
 

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Suicide bombers kill 70 at Baghdad mosque
By Omar al-Ibadi and Mariam Karouny

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Three suicide bombers dressed as women killed at least 70 people at a Shi'ite mosque on Friday, highlighting the inability of Iraqi leaders to tackle sectarian violence as they struggle to form a government.

A police official said the bombers were dressed in traditional Shi'ite women's black robes when they struck, two inside the mosque and one just outside.

Some police sources said all the bombers were women; others said they were one woman and two men dressed as women.

The bombing, the biggest single suicide attack on a Shi'ite target since November 2005, also wounded 158 people.

Men screamed as bodies of victims were taken on wooden carts to ambulances at the complex, which belongs to SCIRI, the most powerful group inside Iraq's ruling Shi'ite Alliance.

"The Shi'ites are the target and it's a sectarian act. There is nothing to justify this act but black sectarian hatred," said SCIRI leader Jalal al-Deen, who was at the mosque during the explosions. He said he had counted 65 bodies.

He accused some Sunni newspapers of inciting violence by publishing reports that the mosque contained a detention center where Sunnis were abused.

People picked up pieces of flesh and placed them on trays.

"This is a cowardly act. Every time I see these bloody scenes it tears apart my heart," said fireman Jawwad Kathim, holding a severed finger.

The attack came a day after a car bomb exploded near a Shi'ite shrine in the sacred southern city of Najaf, killing at least 13 people.

Sectarian tensions have been running high since the bombing of a Shi'ite shrine on February 22 touched off reprisals and pushed Iraq to the brink of a sectarian civil war.

Hundreds of bodies have turned up on Baghdad streets since then with bullet holes, bound and blindfolded and showing signs of torture.

But there has been a lull in spectacular suicide attacks, which Iraqi and U.S. officials say are part of a campaign by al Qaeda leader Abu Musab al Zarqawi to draw Shi'ites into sectarian civil war.

POLITICAL PARALYSIS

The attack could not have come at a worse time for Iraq's fractious leaders, who promised after December elections to tackle violence but are struggling to break a deadlock over a new government as the country keeps counting casualties.

Prime Minister Ibrahim al-Jaafari, a leader in the Shi'ite Alliance with SCIRI and other parties, refuses to heed calls to step down to end the political paralysis.

The Shi'ite Alliance faces an internal crisis if it drops Jaafari but will prolong the deadlock over a government if it keeps him, a dilemma the country cannot afford.

With Sunni Arab and Kurdish politicians refusing to work with Jaafari, pressure is mounting on the United Iraqi Alliance (UIA) to secure a breakthrough.

"It is regrettable that they have put themselves in a lose-lose situation," a senior source in negotiations on a government told Reuters.

"Not only is the UIA damaged but the country is losing and the political process is losing."

In Najaf, senior SCIRhe scene at the north Baghdad mosque.

A member of the Baghdad city council appealed to Iraqis on state television to give blood.

"My house is opposite to the mosque and when we heard the first huge blast I ran to make sure my father, who was praying there, was safe," said Naba Mohsin.

"When I entered the mosque a second huge blast occurred and I saw a big blast with flames, I was thrown, then I woke up in the ambulance. I want to know if my father is alive."

An elderly woman borrowed a mobile telephone from a reporter to call her son Abdullah, one of the worshippers in the mosque.

She wept as it kept ringing and ringing.
 

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LMAO...ur so full of shit... But the U.S. is a "sunset" (ofuli) power while Iran is a sunrise (tolu'ee) one and, once Mr. Bush is gone, a future president would admit defeat and order a retreat as all of Mr. Bush's predecessors have done since Jimmy Carter.


Hopefully the next President that decides to invade a country will not be moronic like Bush and invade with no plan for occupation in mind as well as having faulty twisted lies as the basis for the invasion. We lost the people of Iraq when we could not provide everyday staples like water, electricity etc...and this was because we had morons running the show.
 

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Yeah, and I cried when my mom died. I'm not a bad person.

I know, we should all just be like the rest of the world, you know like a minimum common denominator which equalizes us all. Who the hell are we to attempt something meaningful! Mediocrity is an attainable goal.

Isolationsism ain't a bad idea....... back when you had to travel overseas in the Titanic.

You guys are so full of shit it's worrisome.

But, hell, we can just leave that part of the world alone. And then Europe when it's invaded from within.

I certainly know how Churchill felt in the late '30's.

Ah, what the hell. It's Keeneland's opening day. Away we go. Busy, busy, busy.
 

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Nosigar said:
Who the hell are we to attempt something meaningful!
OK, shoot. What have YOU attempted regarding Iraq?
Nosigar said:
I certainly know how Churchill felt in the late '30's.
....Or do you possibly feel like Churchill when he got all those Aussies killed needlessly at Gallipoli in WW1?

The WW2 comparisons are assinine. I'm sure your smart enough to realize that.

Bush is assinine. If he really wanted to avoid the helicopter scenario, then he would have gone in with the forces necessary to expidite the war. Either that, or not gone at all. The strategy he used has been perfect for the enemy. He couldn't have done this any worse for America and our brave troops.
 

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smurphy said:
OK, shoot. What have YOU attempted regarding Iraq?

....Or do you possibly feel like Churchill when he got all those Aussies killed needlessly at Gallipoli in WW1?

The WW2 comparisons are assinine. I'm sure your smart enough to realize that.

Bush is assinine. If he really wanted to avoid the helicopter scenario, then he would have gone in with the forces necessary to expidite the war. Either that, or not gone at all. The strategy he used has been perfect for the enemy. He couldn't have done this any worse for America and our brave troops.

What the FUK have YOU done?
Whine? OK, I can understand that. (Maybe it's wine... or beer, a bottle o' Jack?? Schlitz)

I do and always have agreed that swifter force is necessary. WAS necessary a few years ago. Not initially, it was fine. Bush has proven to be a jackass by not forcing a stronger war which could end much of the strife.

As for the tear jerker on the body count, who knows, probably more lives would be saved in the long run. Force is the only thing that might subdue these fockers.

And, yes, I know, there's no comparison with these bunch of towel heads to the axis forces of WWII. These folks only want to kill us all, they aren't very motivated. And they're so under-armed. Hell, they don't even have anywhere to get funds from. You mean oil? Naw, that would never happen.

BTW, I thought almost everybody had died in WWI, not just in the Dardanelles Campaign.
Churchill lied, soldiers died!
 

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Sure having some nice days in Iraq. There killing each other faster then Saddam did. Maybe we need it to spread to about 3 or 4 more countries just to really screw up energy flow. And help our stupid leaders to wake up. Don't go where you can get stuck. If you don't have a exit plan. Anyone remember why we were lied to about this chit.
 
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