i'm going to break out my bike....

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it seems like rome's burning & our elected official's are playing with their fiddle....

Gasoline soars amid reported shortages

But experts say any disruptions are bound to be small and short as the industry transitions from winter to summer gas.
By Steve Hargreaves, CNNMoney.com staff writer

April 21, 2006: 4:37 PM EDT


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) - Gasoline prices popped above $3 a gallon in more parts of the U.S. this week, amid reports of spot shortages in some markets.

Gas prices shot up three cents on average Friday, to $2.855 for a gallon of regular, according to the motorist organization AAA, which says the average is above $3 a gallon in California, Washington D.C., Hawaii and New York, .

But although there were widespread media reports of shortages, experts say any disruptions are normal, as gas stations make the switch to cleaner-burning summer fuel.

The motorist group AAA said Friday it had received reports of shortages at eight service stations, all in the Philadelphia and Wilmington, Del. area.

The reports from AAA followed other media stories Thursday and Friday, some of which quoted a government study saying gasoline terminals in Richmond, Va., as well as the Tidewater area near Virginia Beach - where gasoline is shipped when it comes in from refineries and is transferred to trucks for delivery to gas stations - were experiencing shortages.

The reports said the shortages could cause disruptions along the East Coast as far north as Boston.

But an AAA spokesman in New York said they hadn't received any reports of shortages in that area, and didn't expect any north of the city.

Paul Fiore, a spokesman for the Service Station Dealers of America, also said he hadn't heard any reports of shortages from the groups 10,000 or so members along the East Coast.

The oil industry said problems aren't related to an actual shortage but are being caused from a switch over from winter to summer gas, which is cleaner burning.

Terminals need to nearly empty their tanks to accept supplies of summer gas, which will arrive by May 1, said the American Petroleum Institute's Al Mannato.

Mannato said this switch and the accompanying spot shortages happen every year, "but crude prices are way up, gasoline is way up, so people are watching more this year."

He also said a switch from the gasoline additive MTBE, which has been found to contaminate ground water, to ethanol could be compounding the problem.

Problems with making the switch to ethanol were foreseen.

Making the change is hard because ethanol, unlike MTBE, absorbs water and therefore can't be transported by pipeline, which is how most gasoline moves from refineries to regional markets, Mary Rose Brown, a spokeswoman for the refining company Valero (Research), told CNNMoney.com earlier this week.

So ethanol needs to be transported separately by truck or railcar from the Midwest, where it's produced, to the pipeline terminus, where it's then blended with gasoline as the gas is loaded onto trucks for delivery to gas stations, said Brown.

"We've yet to see how hard it will be, but we will see spot outages," she said, noting that there have already been outages in Dallas and Houston, two other areas that are switching.
 

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saw it coming

saw it coming

Problems with making the switch to ethanol were foreseen.

sure was! I was reading articles in the business papers about this months ago...

Thank US Congress for this mess. Last year they refused to shield companies from the MTBE lawsuit feeding frenzy. Then they passed these new rules for oxidization, then they passed tariffs on ethanol imports.

couldn't design a better way to screw things up!

logistical nightmare having to ship all this ethanol around.

Texas refineries could easily import the ethanol, but won't due to tariffs and restrictions.



"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."

- Mark Twain
 

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Terryray said:
Problems with making the switch to ethanol were foreseen.

sure was! I was reading articles in the business papers about this months ago...

Thank US Congress for this mess. Last year they refused to shield companies from the MTBE lawsuit feeding frenzy. Then they passed these new rules for oxidization, then they passed tariffs on ethanol imports.

couldn't design a better way to screw things up!

logistical nightmare having to ship all this ethanol around.

Texas refineries could easily import the ethanol, but won't due to tariffs and restrictions.



"Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself."

- Mark Twain

terry...

we have an immigation problem & the gas prices are soaring & congress has the nerve to go on vacation...

it's a tight race who will have a lower rating...

the president or congress...

btw...

looking forward to seeing you again in vegas...
 
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Oil is a huge money tree for a number of people, and politicians are in bed with the oil people....we're talking about millions and billions of dollars here.....

If there was a viable alternative to oil that was cheap and effective......does anyone believe that big oil would just sit back and watch the new chainsaw cut down their money tree?
 

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Marco said:
If there was a viable alternative to oil that was cheap and effective......does anyone believe that big oil would just sit back and watch the new chainsaw cut down their money tree?

I am amazed that politicians get away with this, even more amazing is that the American people let them.

Where are the pitchforks and torches when you need them?
 

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Plenty of gas for the President. He's been out of Wash 33 days out of last 90 days. There called informing the public trips. I guess they can't find away to inform us with mass communications. Like I told DTB. I remember Jim Crammer from CNBC telling everyone when Bush and Cheney came to power 2000. Heres' two stocks that are must buys. Halburten and Ex/Mobile. Was that a good guess or what?
AR182 as for that bike.Great Idea. Since retirement 4 years ago. I have walked or took the bike ever day for exercise. Or to run short arron's. It helps save. But even more it helps you feel better. My weight is down over 35 pounds. And my hurting back is not nearly as bad. So ride that bike.
 

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Lots of good points here, makes you think wtf??

Al, sure does take balls taking a vacation with all the problems we have today. Close as to who is worse, but shit comes from the top, and as djv says George has been on vacation 1/3 of the time since coming back from holiday vacation.

Marco sure is sickening how many elected officials are in bed with big oil, definitely no conflict of interest. And I suspect your correct nobody will take a blade to that tree.

But Penguin s point is the most dead on and sadest of all. Its definitely amazing what these shit heads get away with. Pitch forks & torches would be a great start. The quicker one of these tools took one in the head the better. I'd love to see gas it $5 a gallon, and a few million March on Washington. Never see it though, Americans way fat and lazy, that day is gone. Maybe minorities or someone else, but the average American to get up and do something, pull their fat ass away from the McDonald's bag and DEAL OR NO DEAL, NOW YOUR DREAMING.
 
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