Senate Bill Would Add 20 Million Legal Immigrants, Report Says

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i will never vote for any senator who voted for this bill..whether it passes as is or not....

By Darryl Fears
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, June 2, 2006; Page A04

The nation's population of legal immigrants would increase by nearly 20 million over the next decade if the recently passed Senate immigration bill becomes law, and taxpayers would spend more than $50 billion to operate a new guest-worker program and pay for extra welfare, Social Security and public health-care costs, according to a Congressional Budget Office report.

But the cost of absorbing the newcomers would be offset by a boost of $66 billion in federal revenue from income taxes and payroll taxes generated by the temporary guest-worker program, along with fees that immigrants must pay to participate, the report says

By 2016, about 8 million immigrants would enter the United States as temporary guest workers, and 11 million immigrants who now live in the country illegally would become permanent legal residents under provisions of the bill.

The report, the first definitive look at the impact of the Senate bill, was commissioned by the Senate Finance Committee and was submitted on May 16, nine days before the measure was passed. The study has been embraced by the Bush administration and the bill's supporters, but opponents said crucial omissions greatly lowered its population and cost estimates.

Critics said the report does not take into account the 950,000 newcomers who enter the country legally under current immigration law, bringing the 10-year total of new immigrants to about 30 million. Some say that number will double by 2026.

The report also does not consider the possibility of future mass illegal border crossings that might occur in spite of technological enhancement and increased personnel along the Southern border, according to critics.

An explosion of immigrants is one reason that House Republicans say they are strongly opposed to the Senate bill, and have vowed to fight it when members of the two chambers meet for negotiations in a congressional conference. Supporters of the Senate's approach, which is backed by President Bush, say they will stand firm.

"We can build miles of fences, but the fact remains that immigrants will still come because employers need workers and immigrants want jobs," said Sen. Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.), who fought for a guest-worker program. "It's far better for American jobs and wages to have a practical, common-sense policy of legal immigration, than to continue leaving millions of immigrants underground and underpaid."

Will Adams, a spokesman for Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.), who opposes granting residency to illegal immigrants, called legal immigration "the soft underbelly of the Senate bill." It is overlooked in the debate, he said, "but when it's exposed, the public is outraged."

Robert E. Rector, a senior research fellow in domestic policy studies at the conservative Heritage Foundation, said the bill "is horrendous." Assisting tens of millions of low-income workers with less than a high school education would lead to costs in welfare, health care, housing and other areas that far exceed the half-billion dollars the government already pays each year, he said.

"Once [illegal immigrants] become legal, they are going to receive welfare that's vastly disproportionate to the taxes that they're going to pay," Rector said. High school dropouts, immigrants or not, earn about $22,000 yearly and pay far fewer taxes than middle-class Americans. "There's no way they can contribute to the cost of educating their children. The cost they impose on government . . . far exceeds anything they bring in in terms of tax revenue."

The budget office report, compiled with help from the Joint Committee on Taxation, disputed that account, as did others who took issue with Rector's belief that the Senate bill would increase the immigrant population by 60 million.

Earlier, Rector predicted an even higher number: 100 million. He updated the figure after an amendment to the bill capped the yearly number of guest workers at 200,000 per year.

Alan Reynolds, a senior fellow for the libertarian Cato Institute, said Rector's estimates "are preposterous." He accused Rector of compounding numbers to reach an alarming total and not taking into account that most immigrants who would become legal citizens already live in the country.

"They're basically saying, 'Gee, if we keep illegals illegal, then we would have fewer legal residents,' " Reynolds said.

A report released yesterday by the National Foundation for American Policy also said Rector "overstated the numbers." Stuart Anderson, executive director of the foundation, said most "new entrants" who would become legal residents currently live in the United States. In 20 years, the net total of new entrants would be about 47 million.

Rector is supported by other groups, including the Center for Immigration Studies and NumbersUSA, two opponents of increased immigration. He said his concern about the number of immigrants is outweighed by the cost.

According to the Congressional Budget Office, 750,000 immigrants would be eligible to receive food stamps, and 1.3 million would be eligible for some form of Medicaid, in addition to other benefits.

The cost of providing food stamps, Medicare, Medicaid and visa fees for guest workers would total $5 billion between 2009 and 2016. An additional $6.5 billion would be needed for new residents who unite with families. Providing services to illegal immigrants who become permanent legal residents would cost $10 billion more.
 

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Add Legal ones. That's better then illegal. And much better then first estimate of 40. We may be getting closer to the compromise.
 

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By Dani Dodge
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June 3, 2006

If an election can turn on a sentence, this could be the one: ?You don't need papers for voting.?

On Thursday night, Francine Busby, the Democratic candidate for the 50th Congressional District, was speaking before a largely Latino crowd in Escondido when she uttered those words. She said yesterday she simply misspoke.

But someone taped it and a recording began circulating yesterday. After she made that statement at the meeting, Busby immediately said: ?You don't need to be a registered voter to help (the campaign).?
She said that subsequent statement was to clarify what she meant.

The recording, which was played yesterday on Roger Hedgecock's radio talk show, jolted the campaign.

Busby, a Cardiff school board member, is in a tight race with Republican Brian Bilbray, a congressman-turned-lobbyist, who has based his campaign on a tough anti-illegal-immigration stance. Busby has focused her campaign on ethics reform. The two are vying to replace Randy ?Duke? Cunningham, who was jailed after pleading guilty to taking bribes.

Busby said she was invited to the forum at the Jocelyn Senior Center in Escondido by the leader of a local soccer league. Many of the 50 or so people there were Spanish speakers. Toward the end, a man in the audience asked in Spanish: ?I want to help, but I don't have papers.?

It was translated and Busby replied: ?Everybody can help, yeah, absolutely, you can all help. You don't need papers for voting, you don't need to be a registered voter to help.?

Bilbray said at worst, Busby was encouraging someone to vote illegally. At best, she was encouraging someone who is illegally in the country to work on her campaign.

?She's soliciting illegal aliens to campaign for her and it's on tape ? this isn't exactly what you call the pinnacle of ethical campaign strategy,? Bilbray said. ?I don't know how she shows her face.?

The two later met in a debate in Carlsbad last night.

Earlier, San Diego Minutemen volunteer Anthony Porrello said he got the tape from an an anonymous Minuteman and passed it on to the news media and talk radio. News of the gathering had circulated among local Minutemen before the meeting, according to William Griffith, the independent candidate in the race who has been endorsed by the San Diego Minutemen.

He attended, but did not hear the statement. He said he was in the back of the room.

?I heard what I expected to hear from a Democrat who supports amnesty,? he said. Busby says she doesn't support amnesty, but backs the comprehensive plan pushed by U.S. Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., that includes opening a path to citizenship for people in the United States illegally if they pay penalties and abide by certain conditions.

Busby said that Republicans are now twisting her words. She does not in any way support or advocate that illegal immigrants vote, she said.

?I was clarifying the question that was being asked in Spanish and then stated that you do not have to be a registered voter to help the campaign because there were many people who appeared to be to be under 18 in the group who wanted to volunteer,? she said in a statement. ?I'm not surprised that the Republican Party is making this last-minute, desperate ploy and it is absolutely false.?
 

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it's really unbelievable how politicans are so cavalier with the immigration issue......

as it is there are some hospitals (one closed in yuma) that had to close because of not in enough revenue generated.....if the senate bill goes through there will be more hospitals closing & our taxes will be increased.....

these politicans all should be shot !!...starting with bush, then mccain, then fat teddy....really disgusting...
 

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So cavalier the boss of the Senate Frist decided our main problem is gay marriages and flag burning. That is what his orders are to the Senate next three weeks. To debate these crushing issues.
 

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i am ashamed of frist. really thought he was a conservative, but in my opinion he is not. if i didn't know better - the greedy ba$tard is looking for a presidency down the road. f'k every one of these senate members that vote for this $hit. i know damn well they didn't get into office with the help of illegals, i feel betrayed.
 

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ELVIS said:
i am ashamed of frist. really thought he was a conservative, but in my opinion he is not. if i didn't know better - the greedy ba$tard is looking for a presidency down the road. f'k every one of these senate members that vote for this $hit. i know damn well they didn't get into office with the help of illegals, i feel betrayed.


people like frist & mccain only have one thought in mind..the presidency.

but it will backfire on them....& the funny thing is that they have no clue.
 
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Can you even imagine with this countries problems regarding Iraq, immigration, energy, terrorism etc. etc., Frist has these fools arguing about gay marriage for the next month?? Talk about insanity!
 

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They are trying to put up a smoke screen to hide the real problems. So far it has worked for them.
 

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StevieD said:
They are trying to put up a smoke screen to hide the real problems. So far it has worked for them.


how can it be working ? bush's poll numbers are near the basement & the congress' is even lower. to me it's pretty obvious that bush is pandering to the conservatives that he lost on immigration.


special note to smurphy. was the above post more to your liking ?
 

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I agree guys. I think this time this game may back fire big.
 
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