Anyone still have questions about 911 should watch this....

[maverick2112]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2924848130992296779&q=911


Brings up a lot of very good points........things you would never see on CNN, Fox, ABC, NBC etc. or things that were covered by these networks but you may have missed.

 

[moe777]

im surprised nobody has called you an unamerican idiot yet.
the only idiots are the people who voted for the mafia (bush family) to run this counrtry.

 

[maverick2112]

You know its funny................if someone would have come up to me say 2 months ago and said......"911 was an inside job done by those in power"..........I would have called you a crazy person....BUT

When you look at all the evidence thats is out now...... all I say is make up your own mind...........I am as patriotic as anyone and I believe in America but I also find it unamerican to bash someone without even giving it some effort to educate themselves.

So when I saw the thread on this site about the problem of the plane at the pentagon (no tapes, no bodies, the actual roof still on the part of the pentagon that was hit (it collapsed later after the impact).........anyhow I started researching what all these so called "911 conspiricists" were waisting all this time on..........WELL I was absolutely shocked about all the stuff that I saw and read........I just think that a lot of the people who call anyone unamerican idiots are the same ones that just have not looked at all the evidence...........hell like I said in an earlier post.......I didnt even know building 7 went down.......

A couple of other things that I just could not figure out was why the 911 commision was not more of an independent group of people who really wanted to find answers.......what a joke......the were all basically picked to hide information.....the only reason you would have to do this is if you were trying to cover things up.......

When I was actually watching the buildings get hit and they went down........I remember thinking.......why on earth would they actually fall like they did when the impact was so high from the ground floor.........I mean really if there is a fire and say even 20 floors are wiped out shouldnt you still have some of at least one of the buildings standing?? I mean isnt that a reasonable question?

I remember watching Norman Mineta talking to members of congress and he says........he was in the pentagon with Dick Cheney and someone comes up to the VP and asks him........Sir the plane is now only 50 miles out.....do the orders still stand? Cheney answers.......yes have you heard any different ....of course they do. ( now I may not have this right word for word but all of it is on the record for anyone to check out.....feel free)........anyhow I was waiting for one of these congressman to say....... what orders?.......no one asked..... Did Cheney already know where the plane was headed ? Why didnt he have the thing shot down? Or at least intercepted.......just no action taken........i thought something isnt right here.......and remember I like Dick Cheney.......he graduated from the same high school as me so I have no agenda. I just would like some reasonable explanations for all of this secrecy going on.

So anyhow I just went to google video and punched in 911 and was amazed at all the question arising now about 911.
I dont really know who pulled all of this off but I sure think there is more than meets the eye to all of this.

I guess I am like most americans after 911 we watched the buildings go down then planes crashing with no bodies found and after a few weeks we never saw video of much of it again but for me when I was able to watch all the video and some people who come across as quite intelligent telling there opinions and theories it is a way to combine all of the information you see and make your own opinion..........so if this makes me an unamerican idiot then I plead guilty........but there seems to be a lot of people wanting to get to the truth of all of this..........maybe we already have it all or maybe we dont but it never hurts to want to ask some hard questions..........no matter if you are a Rep or Demo, Con or Liberal or whatever..........doesnt it seem wierd that 3 skyscraper buildings go down in one day because of fire when not one has even gone down like that ever???

From a betting perspective I wonder what kind of odds you would have got for that to actually happen from fire in the span of hours????

 

[flapjack]

Has anything ever happened that has been tragic in the US that is not a conspiracy? Just wondering. I can't think of one major event where there has been a mass loss of life/someone famous dying that some people are not convinced is a conspiracy. And, the conspriacy people have such obvious proof that you would have to be a fool or naive not to believe.

Real life disasters are messy and chaotic and leave unanswered questions. Any time anything big happens there will be unanswered questions and things that don't quite make sense or we dont have answers for. A commision to investigate anything will ALWAYS - in the minds of conspiracists create more proof of conspriacy. Why? Because it will create more information that will be picked through for inaccracies, mis-statements, etc. So, basically if a gov investigates and finds nothing they are covering up. If they don't bother to investigate some crack pot theory they are covering up.

The belief that there has to be something rational (ie A conspriacy by a ultra powerful group usually the US Gov, Free Masons, Jews, etc) behind something that is so tramatic, senseless and haunting is apparently human nature. No proof will ever make certain people believe otherwise.

Let's see, off the top of my head:


JFK
MLK
RFK
Malc X
Marilyn Monroe
9/11
Ok City
Crack Cocaine
Iran Hostages
Lincoln
McKinnely
Katrina
The Tsunami in Asia
Pearl Harbor
Man on the Moon
Tupac...

No wonder our government sucks. They have their hands completely full pulling off all these capers and keeping everyone quite about it.

I cant think of any more tragedies otherwise the list would be much longer. Natural disasters used to be off limits due to the fact they are obviously natural and not man made, but that trend is changing with more creative people able to link them to the evil doings. The Tsunami was obviously caused by the under water testing of a secret weapon and New Orleans was flooded by the government blowing up the leavees. I really haven't heard any conspiracies on global warming yet, but mark my words, it is a conspiracy. As large and wide ranging as it is, that one will be easy to "prove".

That being said, I love to watch shows about conspriacies - Da Vinci Code, JFK, UFO's all that crap. Its fun to think, what if.

 

[DBLMUTZ]

Flap,Off the top of your head,Which of these capers could be possible,Considering all the upstanding men & women in our government.....Maybe.... JFK&Marilyn......Arms for Hostages, Just curious,Thanks

 

[flapjack]

All of them are true. We have incompetents in the government - which you know is true - all over the place, yet they are insanely good at pulling of complex conspiracies invoving tens, hundreds, thousands of people and then keeping everyone quite about it for the rest of their lives.

 

[new redneck]

maverick, 2 questions... who shot jfk ? and how old are you ?? tia

 

[SpursDynasty]

If anyone can tell me how WTC Building 7 came down, i would like to know. 9/11 commision seemed to ignore that and disregard it as a irrelevant thing in their report.

 

[UGA12]

People believe what they want to believe and your not going to change the minds of those that think there is a great conspiracy going on. I have seen the likes of this movie and yes there are things that do not add-up, but there are also a lot of them that make perfect sense. To question things is great, but to buy into things just because of your dislike of someone or something shows very little intelligence. This past year one of my students said bush was the cause of Catrina and that the government blew those levees to intentionally kill black people. When I questioned where the student had heard this she told me that her dad said it and it was true. Now if you see nothing wrong with this and do not see the danger in it then I never will or will I ever want to understand how you think.

On a lighter note I am busy on my documentary involving Bill Clinton. Now I don't want to give it away before its opening on google but lets just say that clinton was not the innocent bystander everyone thought he was at okl city(95) and nyc(93). I give bill credit for his first bombing in NYC he had everyone fooled that covered the story. He even had muslims in america arrested for masterminding the bombing. That was brilliant on his part and even allowed him to be more successful in his next attempt that a republican insider said he called "BIG WILLY STYLE II" Lets see clinton is from akansas, Arkansas is beside Oklahoma, arkansas has farms, farms have fertilizer, fertilizer used in bombings, hmmmm, I think we see where this is going. Thats not all though people I am in talks with yahoo about a project I call "Marko---Polio" The story of a crippled man that found a way to bomb pearl harbor and lead the holocaust. It is sure to be a thriller. Whatever!!!!!!!!!!

 

[BOHICA]

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html :shrug:

 

[homedog]

http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/defense/1227842.html :shrug:

Finally a respectable source.

 

[maverick2112]

Finally a respectable source.

These 2 websites punch hole after hole on that Popular Mechanics article.........

http://www.911review.com/pm/markup/index.html

http://www.911review.com/pm/markup/index.html

POPULAR MECHANICS.COM

Online Editor Benjamin Chertoff Online Manager Angela Diegel


Ben Chertoff, the chief editor of the piece, being cousins with Michael Chertoff, the new Secretary of Homeland Security, an agency which owes its very existence to the establishment version of the 9/11 attack.

Can you say "CONFLICT OF INTEREST"

This is what I mean when I say every one has to do their home work on all of this ......how can an article written by the cousin of the Secretary of Homeland Security and be called a respected source when there is such a conflict of interest

 

[SpursDynasty]

its not use if the sheep of this country don't think outside the box, its one way the govt. uses this to their advantage. They (majority) don't want to disrupt life and instead continue to live in a "matrix" so to say and not worry about if their own govt. was involved. Why would any sane person think of an incomprehensible claim??? well the reason is the facts are there, its just people aren't looking at it hard enough.

 

[blgstocks]

this side calls that side "sheep"
that side calls this side "conspiracy nuts"

I agree with UGA on this one, nobody here is going to change the minds either way. No matter how much namecalling people do, its just going to get feelings hurt and people mad

 

[gardenweasel]

""""secret government meeting early 2001:""""

we need to invade afganistan and iraq...

how?

blow up the world trade center...

how?

implant various explosive devices in the middle stories of both buildings....

won't that be too obvious?

maybe so, to make sure we will crash two large planes into the buildings to cover our tracks and blame terrorists....

good thinking.

oh, and put a missile into the pentagon....

think that`s enough?

just to make sure we should crash a plane in a field miles away.....

golly, your good.

lol

well, there IS a thing called freedom of thought and expression......inquiring minds and so on...don't forget galileo, of course...reasonable doubt...the scientific method and so on...tearing away the veil of superstition and ignorance....all good things, we agree....

then there's sheer lunacy...stark, staring, barking at the moon,mad land of jawdropping insanity...


so why is it so difficult these days to recognize one from t'other ?...

:shrug:

put on your tinfoil hats,guys....to protect from the rove/cheney mind control rays.....

 

[Jaxx]

To think you U.S. government had anything to do with the Planes flying into the world trade center is just plain stupid. I agree that there is alot of unanswered questions especially with the supposed plane into the pentagon and there is something not right there but come on if you think officials in the white house planned 911 your just showing how ignorant you are.
:142smilie

 

[yyz]

To think you U.S. government had anything to do with the Planes flying into the world trade center is just plain stupid. I agree that there is alot of unanswered questions especially with the supposed plane into the pentagon and there is something not right there but come on if you think officials in the white house planned 911 your just showing how ignorant you are.
:142smilie

I've never been willing to say the idiots in the White House could do that, but if you don't believe that a plane hit the Pentagon, then by default......you believe your government is covering up the events of 9/11.