Remember this...

[DIRTY Diapers]

Thought you might be interested in this forgotten bit of information..........


It was 1987! At a lecture the other day they were playing an old news video of Lt.Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration.

There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning!

He was being drilled by a senator; "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?"

Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir."

The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?"

"No, sir," continued Ollie.

"No? And why not?" the senator asked.

"Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir."

"Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned.

"By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered.

"Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?"

"His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied.

At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked.

"Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered.


"And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator.

"Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth."

The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip.



By the way, that senator was Al Gore!


Also:
Terrorist pilot Mohammad Atta blew up a bus in Israel in 1986. The Israelis captured, tried and imprisoned him. As part of the Oslo agreement with the Palestinians in 1993, Israel had to agree to release so-called "political prisoners."

However, the Israelis would not release any with blood on their hands. The American President at the time, Bill Clinton, and his Secretary of State, Warren Christopher, "insisted" that all prisoners be released.
Thus Mohammad Atta was freed and eventually thanked the US by flying an airplane into Tower One of the World Trade Center . This was reported by many of the American TV networks at the time that the terrorists were first identified.
It was censored in the US from all later reports.
If you agree that the American public should be made aware of this fact, pass this on.

 

[kosar]

That chain email has been circulating for years. Any credible inks with that info?

 

[Happy Hippo]

Interesting...



Here is my favorite line from the Ollie hearings:

"So I take it that your testimony is, there never was a time when Colonel North said that Paul was sending Aran and the Bookkeeper to the Swimming Pool to get a price so that Orange could send some Dogs through Banana to Apple for some Zebras. Is that correct?"

--John Saxon, using code names to question a witness at the Iran-Contra hearings

 

[StevieD]

Sorry Diaper Load,


Oliver North Named Osama bin Laden as a Feared Terrorist During 1987 Iran/Contra Hearings While Being Questioned By a Disgusted Al Gore - NOT TRUE.
The message circulating on the internet claims that Oliver North named Osama bin Laden as a terrorist during the 1987 Iran Contra hearings. It further claims that Al Gore was questioning North and was not pleased with some of his answers.

The truth of the matter is that it wasn't Osma bin Laden that Oliver North named during the 1987 hearings. bin Laden had not yet developed his real hatred for America yet and in fact, was a friend of the U.S. when Afghanistan was fighting the Soviets. Oliver North named Palestinian terrorist Abu Nidal as the terrorist that caused him to accept as a gift, a home security system. The senator questioning him and expressing his disagreement was NOT Al Gore. Gore was not a member of the United States Senate Select Committee on Secret Military Assistance to Iran and the Nicaraguan Opposition and therefore did not take part in the questioning of any witnesses before the Committee. According to Oliver North, the person questioning him was committee counsel John Nields, not a senator. The allegation that the name Osama bin Laden is hard to pronounce is rather silly and, I suppose intended to make Gore look like an idiot. It is certainly not a difficult name. If one saw it in print, one might pronounce Laden with an a sound instead of an "ah", but the rest is easy. According to the message, the person questioning him had only heard the name, and then, only once. If there would have been any difficulty repeating it, it would have been for that reason, and not that it is hard to pronounce. Mr. North also says that he did not say he was afraid of Abu Nidal, but he was concerned for the safety of his family. The entire article that Mr. North wrote to refute this hoax is shown below.

Later versions add a section about one of the 9/11 masterminds, Mohammed Atta. You can read about that allegation on this site on the Terrorism section.

ARTICLES & SOURCES
About.com's Urban Legends
CNN article on the bin Laden timeline
Truth or Fiction
Snopes: this is a really in-depth article with well documented source info
Jeff Richard's Hoax Info



Original Message:
Subject: This will make you think....What if!!!!?????
Subject: 14 years ago..... What a difference 14 Years Makes

Anyone remember this?? It was 1987!
At a lecture the other day they played an old news video of Lt. Col. Oliver North testifying at the Iran-Contra hearings during the Reagan Administration. There was Ollie in front of God and country getting the third degree, but what he said was stunning! He was being drilled by some senator; "Did you not recently spend close to $60,000 for a home security system?" Ollie replied, "Yes, I did, Sir." The senator continued, trying to get a laugh out of the audience, "Isn't that just a little excessive?" "No, sir," continued Ollie. "No? And why not?" the senator asked. "Because the lives of my family and I were threatened, sir" "Threatened? By whom?" the senator questioned. "By a terrorist, sir" Ollie answered. "Terrorist? What terrorist could possibly scare you that much?" "His name is Osama bin Laden, sir" Ollie replied. At this point the senator tried to repeat the name, but couldn't pronounce it, which most people back then probably couldn't. A couple of people laughed at the attempt. Then the senator continued. "Why are you so afraid of this man?" the senator asked. "Because, sir, he is the most evil person alive that I know of", Ollie answered. "And what do you recommend we do about him?" asked the senator. "Well, sir, if it was up to me, I would recommend that an assassin team be formed to eliminate him and his men from the face of the earth." The senator disagreed with this approach, and that was all that was shown of the clip. (If anyone is interested, the senator was none other than Al Gore.)

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Here is the text of the article Oliver North wrote about this hoax. It was originally published on the Freedom Alliance website (organization he founded), but removed when it was thought that the hoax had died down.



FROM THE DESK OF LTCOL OLIVER L. NORTH (USMC) RET.
NOVEMBER 28, 2001



OVER THE COURSE OF THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS, I HAVE RECEIVED SEVERAL THOUSAND E-MAILS FROM EVERY STATE IN THE U.S. AND 13 FOREIGN COUNTRIES IN WHICH THE ORIGINATOR PURPORTS TO HAVE RECENTLY VIEWED A VIDEOTAPE OF MY SWORN TESTIMONY BEFORE A CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE IN 1987.



A COPY OF ONE OF THOSE E-MAILS IS ATTACHED BELOW. AS YOU WILL NOTE, THE ORIGINATOR ATTRIBUTES TO ME CERTAIN STATEMENTS REGARDING USAMA BIN LADEN AND OTHER MATTERS THAT ARE SIMPLY INACCURATE. THOUGH I WOULD LIKE TO CLAIM THE GIFT OF PROPHESY, I DON'T HAVE IT.



I DON'T KNOW WHO SAW WHAT VIDEO "AT UNC." (OR ANYWHERE ELSE) BUT, FOR THE RECORD, HERE'S WHAT I DO KNOW:



1. IT WAS THE COMMITTEE COUNSEL, JOHN NIELDS, NOT A SENATOR WHO WAS DOING THE QUESTIONING.



2. THE SECURITY SYSTEM, INSTALLED AT MY HOME, JUST BEFORE I MADE A VERY SECRET TRIP TO TEHRAN, COST, ACCORDING TO THE COMMITTEE, $16K, NOT $60K.



3. THE TERRORIST WHO THREATENED TO KILL ME IN 1986, JUST BEFORE THAT SECRET TRIP TO TEHRAN, WAS NOT USAMA BIN LADEN, IT WAS ABU NIDAL (WHO WORKS FOR THE LIBYANS -- NOT THE TALIBAN AND NOT IN AFGHANISTAN).



4. I NEVER SAID I WAS AFRAID OF ANYBODY. I DID SAY THAT I WOULD BE GLAD TO MEET ABU NIDAL ON EQUAL TERMS ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD BUT THAT I WAS UNWILLING TO HAVE HIM OR HIS OPERATIVES MEET MY WIFE AND CHILDREN ON HIS TERMS.



5. I DID SAY THAT THE TERRORISTS INTERCEPTED BY THE FBI ON THE WAY TO MY HOUSE IN FEB. 87 TO KILL MY WIFE, CHILDREN AND ME WERE LIBYANS, DISPATCHED FROM THE PEOPLE'S COMMITTEE FOR LIBYAN STUDENTS IN MCLEAN, VIRGINIA.



6. AND I DID SAY THAT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAD MOVED MY FAMILY OUT OF OUR HOME TO A MILITARY BASE (CAMP LEJEUNE, NC) UNTIL THEY COULD DISPATCH MORE THAN 30 AGENTS TO PROTECT MY FAMILY FROM THOSE TERRORISTS (BECAUSE A LIBERAL FEDERAL JUDGE HAD ALLOWED THE LYBIAN ASSASSINS TO POST BOND AND THEY FLED).



7. AND, FYI: THOSE FEDERAL AGENTS REMAINED AT OUR HOME UNTIL I RETIRED FROM THE MARINES AND WAS NO LONGER A "GOVERNMENT OFFICIAL." BY THEN, THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT HAD SPENT MORE THAN $2M PROTECTING THE NORTH FAMILY. THE TERRORISTS SENT TO KILL US WERE NEVER RE-APPREHENDED.



SEMPER FIDELIS,
OLIVER L. NORTH

 

[kosar]

Dirty Dump, here is some light reading for you from a chain email that I just got:



Children's Science Exam:


If you need a laugh, then read through these Children's Science Exam Answers.



Q: Name the four seasons.

A: Salt, pepper, mustard and vinegar.



Q: Explain one of the processes by which water can be made safe to drink.

A: Flirtation makes water safe to drink because it removes large pollutants like grit, sand, dead sheep and canoeists.



Q: How is dew formed?

A: The sun shines down on the leaves and makes them perspire.



Q: How can you delay milk turning sour? (brilliant, love this!)

A: Keep it in the cow.



Q: What causes the tides in the oceans?

A: The tides are a fight between the Earth and the Moon. All water tends to flow towards the moon, because there is no water on the moon, and nature hates a vacuum. I forget where the sun joins in this fight.



Q: What are steroids?

A: Things for keeping carpets still on the stairs.



Q: What happens to your body as you age?

A: When you get old, so do your bowels and you get intercontinental.



Q: What happens to a boy when he reaches puberty?

A: He says good-bye to his boyhood and looks forward to his adultery.



Q: Name a major disease associated with cigarettes

A: Premature death.



Q: How are the main parts of the body categorized?(e.g., abdomen.)

A: The body is consisted into three parts - the brainium, the

borax and the abdominal cavity. The brainium contains the brain; the borax contains the heart and lungs, and the abdominal cavity contains the five bowels, A, E, I, O, and U.



Q: What is the fibula?

A: A small lie.



Q: What does "varicose" mean? (I do love this one...)

A: Nearby.



Q: Give the meaning of the term "Caesarean Section"

A: The Caesarean Section is a district in Rome



Q: What does the word "benign" mean?'

A: Benign is what you will be after you be eight

 

[smurphy]

This is how someone as dumb and dangerous as Dubya is elected ....twice!

The internet is so great because it puts dumb on steroids. Dumb didn't used to have this ability to spread so quick and vast. Now any idiot can create some ridiculous scary lie and within seconds, there are millions and millions of fools who believe what they want and run with it. It's depressing.

I love the way DD titled this "Remember This". ....Like he actually remembers it or something. Yes, I remember so well something that never existed. Sure, why not. Whatever helkps the cause, I guess.

 

[kosar]

This is how someone as dumb and dangerous as Dubya is elected ....twice!

The internet is so great because it puts dumb on steroids. Dumb didn't used to have this ability to spread so quick and vast. Now any idiot can create some ridiculous scary lie and within seconds, there are millions and millions of fools who believe what they want and run with it. It's depressing.

I love the way DD titled this "Remember This". ....Like he actually remembers it or something. Yes, I remember so well something that never existed. Sure, why not. Whatever helkps the cause, I guess.

And I like how he puts the imaginary 'points' that he deems important and shocking, in bold.

 

[StevieD]

It is things like that that got Bush elected. So much time and energy spent fighting the lies. But that is what Karl Rove is a genius at,

 

[smurphy]

I do, however remember this one very clearly:

It was 2001 ....or was it 2000? ...No no, it was definitely 2001 because The Baltimore Ravens were defending superbowl champs. Anyway, it was only the end of opening week in the NFL - so I guess that put it at early to mid september.

After watching Denver defeat the NY Giants rather handily on MNF, I had a beer, drew some maps and shlt, and went to sleep.

I woke earlier than usual tuesday morning - like quarter to 8 or so (must have been excited about a good 1st week of nfl). I start emailing my friend to talk about bets, fantasy football, and the kinda graphic injury on MNF. ...He replies "Fvck that, we're in WW3!".

....I'm like all "...hhhuh?" So I figure this means something will be on TV about whatver it is talking about. I turned on CNN (naturally because it's the most trusted) and I see the Twin Tower. It took me a minute to realize that it was just tower (singular). I'm thinkin "where's the other one, I know there should be like 2 towers instead of one". Before I can sort that out, there was suddenly zero towers.

The president who was on vacation, ignoring memos about this impending attack: George W. Bush

The player who suffered the graphic compound leg fracture on MNF just hours earlier: Ed McCaffrey

 

[Jabberwocky]

And the floor is now open for the Dirty Dump rebuttal.....

 

[kosar]

It was a warm tuesday morn here in sunny Fort Myers, Florida. It was about 8:45am on that fateful day.

I was at the office busy doing my usual morning rounds on the forums when one of the girls in the office got a call from her daughter who lives in New York.

She informed everybody that a small commuter plane hit one of the towers. As I usually do, no matter the subject, I just kind of looked at her for a moment and then went back to posting without saying a word in response.

Then word came from the daughter that a second one hit the other tower. That's when I put the surfing on hold and leapt into action by turning on the TV.

The daughter that informed her mom:

Gabby

The mom that informed an entire office:

Tina

The person who was spirited away to a bunker 5,000 feet under ground and has only been seen 3 times since 9/11(once after a tragic Quail incident):

Richard Cheney aka Dick

The city where W was reading to children as it happened:

Sarasota, Florida

The book he could not put down after being informed of the attacks:

My Pet Goat

 

[smurphy]

The mom that informed an entire office:

Tina

Isn't Tina also the name of Napolean Dynamite's llama? ....Man, this is creepy.

There are actually MANYconnections between the Denver Broncos and 9-11. I could get into details later, but here's a brief timeline:

Jan, 1998 - Lewinsky scandal breaks

Feb, 1998 - Denver Broncos win first superbowl

1998 - Broncos have perhaps the greatest season ever, on the strength of government grade steroids. Terrel Davis, Romanowski, Shannon Shapre, and Ed McCaffrey are obvious beneficiaries.

1999 - As election season approaches, Colorado and the DNC have a problem. It doesn't look like Colorado will back Clinton's successor - DESPITE everything the Dems obviously did for the Denver Broncos.

1999 - Elway retires

1999 - Terrel Davis suffers career ending knee injury

Other events follow - Romanowksi leaves for Oakland, suffers greatly from gvt grade roid rage and ends up committing hate crimes against teamates. Shannon Sharpe leaves for Baltimore and wins another championship.

By the beginning of 2001 season, McCaffrey is the only Bronco left who took part in the steroid program.

It gets a little fuzzy here, but it's rumored that the Clinton administration gave reports to Osama Bin Laden about which teams and players were on the super juice. The Al Quaeda were made a lot of money betting on Denver during the Lewinsky portion of Clinton's term.

Basically, McCaffrey's conscious was bothering him was ready to tell all. He could see his young QB Griese turning to alcholism and just couldn't live with all the guilt. In fact, he knew 9-11 was happening (because the roids gave him the 6th sense). If you look at his injury suffered that night, his leg appears to break in mid-air, from an angle where there seems to be no contact.

Bottom line, Bin Laden (with the support of the DNC) hired a ghost to break McCaffrey's leg. This would have been the big story come Tuesday, Sept 11 - and Bin Laden knew this. So he made sure WTC happened to distract everyone from the real scandal that was about to be exposed.

 

[kosar]

Hey, ya know, I asked a question the other day but the thread got locked before anyone answered.

Does anybody know when Arbor Day is this year? Thanks.

 

[DIRTY Diapers]

Truth hurts doesn't it!:mj07: If a democrat becomes president we're all in trouble.

 

[AR182]

Isn't Tina also the name of Napolean Dynamite's llama? ....Man, this is creepy.

i'll tell you what's creepy...you watching napolean dynamite, save by the bell, 3's company, melrose place....

you, & for that matter kosar sound like you play for the other side...not that there's anything wrong with that..

you guys better straighten up & start watching some john wayne movies....

 

[kosar]

i'll tell you what's creepy...you watching napolean dynamite, save by the bell, 3's company, melrose place....

you, & for that matter kosar sound like you play for the other side...not that there's anything wrong with that..

you guys better straighten up & start watching some john wayne movies....

Yeah, I doubt you can say with a straight face that you didn't enjoy watching Jack and Larry chase chicks at the Regal Beagal.

Or that you didn't find it hilarious when there was a big mix-up or misunderstanding and chaos ensued.

Mr. Roper or Mr. Ferley? They were both great, but i'll go with Mr. Roper.

 

[smurphy]

i'll tell you what's creepy...you watching napolean dynamite, save by the bell, 3's company, melrose place....

you, & for that matter kosar sound like you play for the other side...not that there's anything wrong with that..

you guys better straighten up & start watching some john wayne movies....

And how exactly did John Wayne positively influence your life? Did he inspire you to fight off the raging Apaches in Scottsdale?

BTW, where do you think my name came from? I don't recall any Cowboy movies named "Al".

 

[smurphy]

Yeah, I doubt you can say with a straight face that you didn't enjoy watching Jack and Larry chase chicks at the Regal Beagal.

Or that you didn't find it hilarious when there was a big mix-up or misunderstanding and chaos ensued.

Mr. Roper or Mr. Ferley? They were both great, but i'll go with Mr. Roper.

The Roper years were vastly superior. Original Chrissy of course - all her replacements sucked.

I loved the episode where the girls can hear Jack in the kitchen talking with some bimbo about a plant, but the language they used full of enuendos that got misinterpreted. Finally, Janet busts in calling Jack a pervert only to find him caring for a fern. Brilliance.

 

[smurphy]

Truth hurts doesn't it!:mj07: If a democrat becomes president we're all in trouble.

It's amazing. Even when his Ollie North tribute post is discredited ten-fold (by Ollie North himself, no less!), he stobbornly clings to his moronic copy-paste.

Some people would rather remain stupid than allow themself an ounce of humilty.

 

[smurphy]

Does anybody know when Arbor Day is this year? Thanks.

it's coming up!