They just never learn........

[hammer1]

Over 37 years ago i listened to Richard Nixon tell me that the South Vietnamese were going to take over the war for me.
Yesterday on" Meet the Press" "Snake In The White house Cheney" tells us the Iraqis are taking over the fight and tonight his stooge repeats the same lie.
Iraq is lost..........lost lost lost......game over.......how any one can think other wise is beyond me.

Tryin ta stay out a these forum debates but that one just caused a flashback from many years ago.
Does any one here know any one that has served in Iraq that's come back and said..jup we're goin in the right direction....these terrorists are in their dieing throes. we are going to win... believe i saw someone here say they had just come back...........aaaaaaaaaaand pray tell under what scenario do u see that happening.

 

[smurphy]

final throes, baby! final throes!

hey, we can go ahead and declare victory if we like. we were never supposed to be in the business of nation building anyway. we kicked ass on impotent saddam, toppled him and his statue, so we could take that pyyrhic $ 350 billion 3,000 lives victory and boast how we kick ass. well worth it, sure why not. ...we 'sent a message' afterall, right?

 

[The Sponge]

final throes, baby! final throes!

hey, we can go ahead and declare victory if we like. we were never supposed to be in the business of nation building anyway. we kicked ass on impotent saddam, toppled him and his statue, so we could take that pyyrhic $ 350 billion 3,000 lives victory and boast how we kick ass. well worth it, sure why not. ...we 'sent a message' afterall, right?

Hey hammer when the biggest moment the Saddam statue fell i saw two hundred Iraq's out of 25 million cellebrating. We had this plaster all over our news. Im thinking "where the hell are the other 24,999,800 million people celebrating"? The reason why Saddam didnt have any weapons is because he was contained like a little school girl. Cheney said it himself saying Saddam is to bogged down to try anything but he forgot he said this. They knew this but they needed to get in there to steal our tax paying dollars along with the iraq oil. One thing Saddam did well was keep Iran in check. Now look at them.

 

[djv]

Don't ever forget 75% of those SOB's hate us just like the rest of the Arabs Countries. So with our 25% that give a chit our chance of changing many minds is fruitless. That's why you saw 200 to 300 at the Saddam statue that day. If were not ready to try every thing in our power to win more over and stop the same lines and tactics were screwed. As far as getting anything out of our 300 billion.

 

[The Sponge]

dtv people just don't hate others for no reason. How would u like it if they were over here and occupying us? Giving us curfews etc.. They hate us for a reason and its because our rottenn gov't can't stay out of their business. Oil, oil, oil. If they didn't have any we wouldn't bother them for a second. Just like they hate isreal. Why you think there are so many country's that can't stand isreal? Everyone can't be wrong can they? Money hungry and greedy people are usually hated by most people.
Everyone codemmed Arafat for not going for the treaty with Isreal. The one where Isreeal was giving some of the land back. The real deal which we never heard here basically went like this. Isreal would give the land back but they would own the streets. So u basically had to stay in ur house or be followed. A child wouldn't take that deal but our Isreally friendly press never told us about this deal all we heard was they were giving the land back and Arafat wanted more. I will say this again the Isreal people know what the game is. They want to live in piece also but the got that rotten greedy gov't like ours so they will never live in piece.

 

[CANADA MAN]

I love watching guys talk about peace who can't even spell it!!!!

"PEACE" as in "War and Peace"
"PIECE" as in "YOU PIECE OF SHIT"

Peace!!:weed:

 

[hammer1]

Now Now Canada Man

Now Now Canada Man

Get that middle finger out of ur colon that u were pleasuring urself with because the suppository u were using melted from over use and voice ur objections and differences in opinion in prose instead of referring to whats on that stinky finger of yours.

Pughh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Eh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"Over 37 years ago i listened to Richard Nixon tell me that the South Vietnamese were going to take over the war for me."

The south had taken over most of war at the time of all the demonstratins to pull out--not only that the NVA were almost a non issue in the south.

--and you wonder why those that gave so much for so long--despise those that ultimately took an inevitable victory to a stalemate with only a bunch of protesting.

Killed in action
U.S. troops-Arvns(the-south-NVA/VC(the north)

1968
U.S 14,594
ARVN 28,000
NVA/VC

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"Over 37 years ago i listened to Richard Nixon tell me that the South Vietnamese were going to take over the war for me."

The south had taken over most of war at the time of all the demonstratins to pull out--not only that the NVA were almost a non issue in the south.

--and you wonder why those that gave so much for so long--despise those that ultimately took an inevitable victory to a stalemate with onlya bunch of chin music.

Killed in action
U.S. troops-Arvns(the-south-NVA/VC(the north)

1968
U.S 14,594
ARVN 28,000
NVA/VC 208,254

1969
U.S. 9,414
ARVN 22,000
NVA/VC 132,051

1970
U.S. 4,221
ARVN 23,000
NVA/VC 86,951

1971
U.S.1,380
ARVN 19,901
NVA/VC 19,320

How can anyone look at these figures and dispute the war was practically over when the media and their protesting supporters HANDED the enemy a new lease on life that resulted in the slaughter of millions afterwards.

Has to the low point of American History when the fanny packers trumped the courage of our military-- armed with only picket signs and a loud mouth.

 

[hammer1]

No question on the courage buddy......

No question on the courage buddy......

So by your logic since the body count in Iraq
is 10 to 20 times more than ours we are kickin ass
and only demonstrators can make us lose.

And we lost Nam because of demonstrators and the sight of Jane Fonda on their side gave the enemy just like"" Rocky"" a 2nd wind and they came back and kicked butt.

If thats what u believe not much else i can tell u.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

If you can't look at the #'s above and get the picture you are correct--there is not much you can tell me--or anyone.

I guess I'll have to spell it out for you.

The #'s were not there to represent comparison of casualities but to show all casulties from all parties had declined tremendously about the time the fannypacker/pocket protector brigade and media got their agenda implemented.

 

[danmurphy jr]

Once the aggressor starts issuing body counts, the game, for all intent and purpose is over.
The thread topic did not say this was a spelling bee. If you need to need to question the intelligence of a replier or poster, rather than soapbox your lack, start your own thread. The problem with an argument betwen a ventriloquist and his dummy is, an outsider can't tell which is which.

 

[smurphy]

I love watching guys talk about peace who can't even spell it!!!!

"PEACE" as in "War and Peace"
"PIECE" as in "YOU PIECE OF SHIT"

Peace!!:weed:

Get back to us when you learn how to spell "COLOR", "OFFENSE", "FAVORITE", "CENTER", and ween yourself off that ridiculous metric system.

On the upside however, you produce great comedians and Montreal is one of the finest cities in North America.

 

[gardenweasel]

did we even lose one military battle in viet nam?.....

i don`t think so.....

three words sum it up....why we`ll never win another military confrontation that lasts longer than a pack of chewing gum...

"the 5th column"...

 

[The Sponge]

I love watching guys talk about peace who can't even spell it!!!!

"PEACE" as in "War and Peace"
"PIECE" as in "YOU PIECE OF SHIT"

Peace!!:weed:

First off i know the word is peace but i just wing my post and rarely look back. You Grammar whores truly need to get a life.