Be honest, DTB...

[Nick Douglas]

...how much do you agree with Ermey's political views?

http://www.radaronline.com/features/2006/10/tough_love.php

I love his performance in FULL METAL JACKET and I think he's been great in other stuff as well so you won't see me boycotting TEXAS CHAINSAW MASSACRE: THE BEGINNING because of his views on liberals. You'll see me boycotting because it looks like junk.

 

[smurphy]

If DTB is true to himself, he'd have to boycott Ermey because he made out with Jack Black in 'Saving Silverman'.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Never heard of him until I read your link but remember him as drill instructor in movie.

From research I did after I read your article I can't say that I am impressed--His awards from 14 months in Nam-- are nothing to write home about--a bunch of gimmees with one bronze star probably for meritorious service rather than valor or they would have made note of it.
--and certainly "NOT" impressed with --

"During that time, Ermey rose to the rank of Staff Sergeant and was medically discharged in 1972 for several injuries received during his tours. He did not receive a Purple Heart due to his injuries being non-combat in origin. Ermey has admitted that he still has nightmares about his combat experiences, a symptom of post-traumatic stress disorder

Ermey's Marine Corps awards and decorations are as follows:


Graphical representation of R. Lee Ermey's USMC awardsCombat Action Ribbon
Meritorious Unit Commendation
Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal
National Defense Service Medal
Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal
Vietnam Service Medal with one bronze service star
Drill Instructor Ribbon
Vietnam Gallantry Cross with Palm
Vietnam Campaign Medal
Rifle Marksman Badge
Pistol Sharpshooter Badge

 

[smurphy]

Dogs, you don't watch 'Mail Call' on History Channel? ...or is it Discovery? Anyway, I'd think you'd have been all over that show that he hosts (or hosted). It's all military strategy, stories, and weaponry.

 

[Nick Douglas]

I think I get your point that the guy might have been unstable.

My point was just wondering how close his comments on lefties and the like fall to your own thoughts. Just asking...

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Watch both history chan and discovery on occasion Smurph but never saw are heard of mail call.

Don't know what his comments are Nick--but would put little confidence and have less desire to listen to him after what Ive seen of his backround.
Believe his nitche is acting moreso than military

but I will make everyones day and say Ollie North is one of my favs

 

[kosar]

but I will make everyones day and say Ollie North is one of my favs

Is this the same Ollie North that Marc Rich was in cahoots with in the Iran-Contra scandal?

 

[smurphy]

Is this the same Ollie North that Marc Rich was in cahoots with in the Iran-Contra scandal?

Yep, that's the criminal. Wow, that even happened more recently than the '83 page scandal.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Can't believe your the only one commenting on North so far Matt. Will wait for a few more however--Norths--and Rich and Clintons objectives were like night and day.

I believes North's motives were quite clear as were Rich's and Clintons.

 

[kosar]

Yep, that's the criminal. Wow, that even happened more recently than the '83 page scandal.

Doesn't count. It was a republican that was responsible for selling arms to the country that not long before seized our embassy.And not long after the same president 'cut and ran' from Lebanon after 241 of our marines got blown up by Hezbollah. We should explore that situation a little more, while we're talking about Studds from the 80's. Love that name.....Studds.

 

[smurphy]

Kosar, you really should focus on solutions rather than dwell on past mistakes.

 

[kosar]

Can't believe your the only one commenting on North so far Matt. Will wait for a few more however--Norths--and Rich and Clintons objectives were like night and day.

I believes North's motives were quite clear as were Rich's and Clintons.

You're not such a law and order guy when it comes to North, I guess.

I like North on 'War stories' on Fox on sundays, though. I think he found his niche.

 

[SixFive]

Ermey's Marine Corps awards and decorations are as follows:


Graphical representation of R. Lee Ermey's USMC awardsCombat Action Ribbon
Meritorious Unit Commendation
Marine Corps Good Conduct Medal
National Defense Service Medal
Armed Forces Expeditionary Medal
Vietnam Service Medal with one bronze service star
Drill Instructor Ribbon
Vietnam Gallantry Cross with Palm
Vietnam Campaign Medal
Rifle Marksman Badge
Pistol Sharpshooter Badge

chump change compared to DTB's hardware! Wayne, doesn't look like he was dropped in the bush too often, does it??

On Ermey, I really don't like him. He yells constantly and is annoying. Pretty good actor, though, however, I know I won't be going to see TCM.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Depends apon the objective Matt.

If at the super bowl party our little crew was gathered up and held hostage and I was negotiating for your release and they wanted same deal North brokered for your return I wouldn't hesitate to go through a Rich for your saftey--but if someone asked me to pardon him for x amount of dollars in my pocket????

What was Norths objective
What was Clinton's

Am I to believe you don't see a difference.

 

[kosar]

Depends apon the objective Matt.

If at the super bowl party our little crew was gathered up and held hostage and I was negotiating for your release and they wanted same deal North brokered for your return I wouldn't hesitate to go through a Rich for your saftey--but if someone asked me to pardon him for x amount of dollars in my pocket????

What was Norths objective
What was Clinton's

Am I to believe you don't see a difference.

Wayne,

Smurphy recently commented on your crazy analogies and I believe this one falls in that category, my friend.

Clintons objective was to pay back a political contributor. Rich was a money launderer.

Norths objective was to overthrow a sovereign nations government that we didn't like but had done nothing to us (boy, that sounds familiar). This illegal attempted action was illegally funded by selling arms to a bitter enemy.

So, your loopy 'hostage' scenario notwithstanding, which do you consider worse?

Am I to believe you don't see the difference?

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

So your speaking about the Contra arms for hostages scandal?

 

[kosar]

So your speaking about the Contra arms for hostages scandal?

I'm speaking of illegally selling arms to a bitter enemy to illegally fund the Contras to overthrow the Sandinistas.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

--and explain his motive for this action if you would--???

--I thought about it before I posted I liked him and I know there are lots of controversial matters--some even I don't care for--he should have took his 3 convictions in stride--but had ACLU over turn them.

--but what I like about him far outways the bad as far as I'm concerned. While his records show he received 2 purple heart in nam few people are aware he was actual wounded 5 times and refused the other 3 because he didn't want to leave his men--quite the opposite of the liberals hero kerry.
This is just of tip of iceberg. Suffice to say what impresses some of us does impress others and nothing wrong with that.

 

[smurphy]

...and now you deflect North's crimes onto Kerry's 'questionable' Purple Hearts. Whatever, man. Whatever. You are almost impossible to communicate with.

 

[kosar]

--and explain his motive for this action if you would--???

--I thought about it before I posted I liked him and I know there are lots of controversial matters--some even I don't care for--he should have took his 3 convictions in stride--but had ACLU over turn them.

--but what I like about him far outways the bad as far as I'm concerned. While his records show he received 2 purple heart in nam few people are aware he was actual wounded 5 times and refused the other 3 because he didn't want to leave his men--quite the opposite of the liberals hero kerry.
This is just of tip of iceberg. Suffice to say what impresses some of us does impress others and nothing wrong with that.

His motive? Following orders from above and his shared desire that the leftist Nicaraguan Sandinista government be overthrown for ideological reasons.

Actually, he didn't need the ACLU to 'overturn' his convictions. They were vacated after he accepted immunity. IOW, he was a rat. One of the big ones he gave is that he was very sure that Reagan knew about the whole thing.

I respect his service, as I do everybodys.

Not sure Kerry is the 'liberals hero', but I respect his service also.

You must not know what 'impresses' me.

I'm impressed with his overall military service to the country, as I am with how many other millions, including yourself.

I'm not impressed that he was the frontman for illegally trying to overthrow a harmless government and also for selling arms to our second biggest enemy after the USSR at that time.

Jack Murtha is highly decorated also. WTF would you say if it came out tomorrow that he has been engaging in selling arms to Iran or North Korea under orders from a democratic hierarchy, including the president(hypothetical, of course)?

I have a strange feeling that your tune would change a little.

In fact, I believe that you would be in a frenzy.