Hillary quickly getting worried about Obama

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2008 is the key year for these Democrats. Winning the Presidency will start getting increasingly tougher for them. Demographers say that after the 2010 census, more electoral college votes will shift in favor of the red states, wth no end in sight to this trend.


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We Are Firmly Behind Hillary Clinton, And Will Remain So For As Long As It Takes Barack Obama To Get In

Contributed by Jonathan Alter - Posted: October 24, 2006 11:41:03 AM

The latest iteration of the Barack Obama boomlet: Hillary Clinton's folks are quaking about the possibility of his running in 2008. There's even speculation an Obama race might preclude her getting in. Here's why: Hillary's game plan is to raise enough money and generate enough momentum to survive a loss in Iowa (perhaps to John Edwards, who is well-organized there) or New Hampshire (to the flavor of the moment), but then secure the nomination by running the table on Super Tuesday. The reason she thought she could do that is that Super Tuesday primaries in the Democratic Party are dominated by African-American voters, who generally love the Clintons. But there's someone they would love even more, namely a certain senator from Illinois.

To make matters even tougher for any other Democrat, an Obama adviser told me that if he runs, he would launch a huge voter registration drive in the South. The aim would be to so expand black registration that Southern states would no longer be gimmees for the GOP. At a minimum, it would pin down Republicans defending their base in the South. The little-known clincher is that Obama has personal experience in voter registration. Before entering the state Senate in 1996, he ran a registration drive that registered more than 100,000 new black voters in Chicago alone.

No wonder that when I saw Obama at an off-the-record book party on New York's East Side last week, the crowd included several of Hillary's biggest backers. They know this thing is changing fast.
 

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if that article is correct,and that i question,given the lack of immigration control on the southern border(who are illegals going to vote for?...democrats who will give them social programs and fight border control,or republicans like tancredo and j.d. hill?) ..

of course if the articlre is correct,i can understand why democrats are pushing for "i.d.-less" voting,which would essentially end the election process as we know it...

the hillary/obama issue is verrry interesting....i`d bet a dollar to a donut that hillary is working behind the scenes to get obama to step back...

he may be the only dem that can derail the hillary express...
 

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the hillary/obama issue is verrry interesting....i`d bet a dollar to a donut that hillary is working behind the scenes to get obama to step back...

he may be the only dem that can derail the hillary express...
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I would venture a deal worked out to make him the VP candidate.

Hillary will be a disaster as Pres IMO.
 

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thought the demographics link interesting but not surprising--on Obama--can't see people electing pres with 2 years experience in these times

--but then again Dems could run Sponge for pres and he'd automatically start with spot of 11.7 million votes given the demographical 90% auto matic vote--per voters last election. sad but true :)
 

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if that article is correct,and that i question,given the lack of immigration control on the southern border(who are illegals going to vote for?...democrats who will give them social programs and fight border control,or republicans like tancredo and j.d. hill?) ..

of course if the articlre is correct,i can understand why democrats are pushing for "i.d.-less" voting,which would essentially end the election process as we know it...

the hillary/obama issue is verrry interesting....i`d bet a dollar to a donut that hillary is working behind the scenes to get obama to step back...

he may be the only dem that can derail the hillary express...

Who are all the unregistered Americans going to vote for. You worry about the illegals but their are far more Americans in the unregistered pool. This kind of thinking has us where we are. How many unregistered voters do we have in America -vs- illegals. If America showed up at the polls, this would not be an issue. THINK BIG PICTURE, THINK LIKE A FEE MAN !!! This is America, land of the free home of some of the brave. The Democrats and the illegals can't do anything to you,if the majority that participates does not allow it. Can we agree on this point ? I can sense your fear. I tell you, all smart ass unregistered Americans out there better come too, this is the land of opportunity but it has to be claimed. Oh my God ! Not a women, not a man of color with a unamerican name. Whats the worst that could happen ?
 

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if that article is correct,and that i question,given the lack of immigration control on the southern border(who are illegals going to vote for?...democrats who will give them social programs and fight border control,or republicans like tancredo and j.d. hill?) ..

of course if the articlre is correct,i can understand why democrats are pushing for "i.d.-less" voting,which would essentially end the election process as we know it...

the hillary/obama issue is verrry interesting....i`d bet a dollar to a donut that hillary is working behind the scenes to get obama to step back...

he may be the only dem that can derail the hillary express...

Classic Stuff : this thinking if you read it very close is induced by fear. The supporters of gerrymandering would be proud. Guys like you would take Hillary and the devil over Obama in a second. Whats the worst that could happen ? A day like September 11th ? Bin laden still on the run ? Bogged down in some mindless ground war in Iraq ? Maybe Obama would show up with a play book on how to catch Osama ? What makes you think Obama would step back from anything ? Hillary is standard issue bullshit , cut from the same cloth as most of our politicians on the left and the right. We need a new flavor, We need someone like Obama, We need leadership. I can't think of anyone on the national scene that has credibility and can inspire and lead. I think Obama could be that man.
 

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obama is an elctrifying speaker but i agree with dtb, not enough experience to win the general election.

What experience are you looking for ? The Clinton experience ? The Carter experience ? The Bush 43 experience ? Maybe we don't need experience as defined by most. I have said it before, we need to change the way we think and vote. We need a wake up call, we need some cold water in our faces, we need to think like the free people that we are and be progressive and not sit back and react to our fears. Whats the worst that could happen ? We could stay the course and be in this same place in time 10yrs from now. NOTE : is it not hilarious that the phrase ( stay the course) is no longer in the Republican handbook ? There must have been some big meeting, take out stay the course and triple up on (cut and run) . These guys are funny. That's your tax dollars at work. Some smart ass Handler got big money to figure that out and sell it to the American people. Can you hear him ? The guy that knocked down those buildings is still waiting to hear from him. Everyone is laughing, Bush, his friends on the left and right, Bin Laden, everyone except the American People.
 

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I would venture a deal worked out to make him the VP candidate.

Hillary will be a disaster as Pres IMO.

you're spot on, they'll convince him to be a vp then step up to president after their two terms, and hiliray would definitely be a very poor choice.
 

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Can't think of a lot of standout candidates from either side--in 08

- on voter id's fiasco--not only are no id's insane appears to be some probs with id's--

Federal authorities in Kansas City are investigating suspected voter registration fraud tied to the "Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now" ? known as ACORN. Election officials say there are at least 15,000 registration cards with problems such as questionable information, and bogus names, addresses and social security numbers.

ACORN ? which is associated with liberal causes ? is also under scrutiny for similar problems in St. Louis and several other states. ACORN is blaming the errors on what it calls "honest mistakes." But the group's national spokesman admits some of its paid employees may have turned in false registration cards to make it appear they were actually working.

ACORN's work in Missouri is tied to its support for a ballot initiative that would raise the minimum wage.
 
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