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Jayhawk_Thor

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I didn't want to post this as the thread header to attract the trolls and ultimately get trashed if it doesn't come through...

But this one comes up as strong a play to me as any this year.

So, since I will be playing it bigger than all the others, I guess you can call it my 'game of the year':


Oklahoma -2 (@Texas A&M)

This is a 5 unit play for me.

Wanted to make sure I posted it at this number. I'll come back with my reasoning later on.
 
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good luck to you. i will hop on board with you. i just got some more at -2.5. go sooners!
 
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Sun- Always glad to hear we see the game the same way. Let's try to stay out of the way of another horrific beat. My heart (and liver) can't take another one... ha ha.

BLG- I have no idea, actually. I wanted to lock it in at 3... I have 2.5 units on that right now. I'm going to hope that it falls to 2.5 and then drop the rest of it on there... but I will probably just end up putting the other 2.5 units on it at 3. Just didn't want it to get up to 3.5 and risk a loss by waiting...

Lowell- Sounds good, man... where did you get the 2.5 at? Or did you buy down? I have money at Pinny/WSex/and another one that isn't endorsed here... and all of them have 3 to my knowledge... Thanks...
 

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Sun- Always glad to hear we see the game the same way. Let's try to stay out of the way of another horrific beat. My heart (and liver) can't take another one... ha ha.

BLG- I have no idea, actually. I wanted to lock it in at 3... I have 2.5 units on that right now. I'm going to hope that it falls to 2.5 and then drop the rest of it on there... but I will probably just end up putting the other 2.5 units on it at 3. Just didn't want it to get up to 3.5 and risk a loss by waiting...

Lowell- Sounds good, man... where did you get the 2.5 at? Or did you buy down? I have money at Pinny/WSex/and another one that isn't endorsed here... and all of them have 3 to my knowledge... Thanks...
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Wow, game of the year? Not being a d*ckhead, but OU is in a definate letdown position IMO after throttling Misery last week. However, OU's defense looks awesome right now and might shutdown the Aggies completely. Just not sure how you would make this a GOY type play.
 

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Should have waited a bit, it appears. Just put the other 2.5 units on Oklahoma -2.


My reasoning:

Texas A&M is the most overrated team in the country. I have gone over this, but I don't think it can be understated.
They have played a mediocre schedule... which include these doozies to get to 8-1:
*Non-conferance laughers against terrible The Citadel, UL-Lafayette, and LTU at home.
* Should have lost to Army in San Antonio (TAMU won by 4, but had to stop 4 Army plays from inside the 3 at the end of the game to win).
* Choked a game away at home against a since-proven mediocre Texas Tech team.
* Got soundly outplayed at Kansas, but scored two late TD's to win by a FG.
* Escaped Mizzou by 6.
* Should have lost to OSU... 1 point win in OT.

That is a long way of saying this: they could SO EASILY be 4-5 right now. I'm talking a bounce of the ball in each of those games. This establishes the line value I look for in a big play.
But more importantly, from a handicapping perceptive... I dont see how TAMU scores the amount of points needed to win this one. Stoops and Oklahoma are going to key on the run. Granted, most teams have tried that against the Aggies this year... but the Sooners have the athletes to play man on the outside and still pack the middle of the field effectively.
TAMU's ground games success comes from pounding Lane, then having Goodson and his sprinter speed attack the outsides... with McGee a decent runner himself adding some deception.
Here's my question. What happens if the run game is taken away? McGee hasn't had to play without it this year. He has been effective when teams stuff the box and he can make high percentage passes to receivers in space. My guess is that will not be the case in this game. OU is going to stuff the box, and get heat on McGee on the play-action passes.
Now, I'm not a big fan at all of OU's offense... but they have been surprisingly effective, despite the absense of Bomar and then Peterson. Not be honest, I dont think they have to do a bunch to win this game. If OU plays defense like I think they will... this is going to be a low scoring game where Stoops will grind the clock and put Thompson in a comfort zone. Thompson isn't a good QB by any means, but if he doesnt have to win a game, he is good enough... because he can create.
I also think OU's offense has been able to open up a bit since the Peterson injury... they know they cant rely on only one guy to win the game... and other people have been picking up the slack. I expect a continued progression. IMO, Peterson's absence only adds to the line value.
Also, TAMU has played the 93rd rated schedule up to this point in the nation... Oklahoma the 7th... TAMU has nothing that the Sooners havent seen and beaten up to this point, wheras the most impressive victory TAMU has was an overrated Mizzou team at home (Oklahoma beat Mizzou on the road, handily, also beat Washington, and should have won in Oregon if not for the screwjob the officials gave them).

That's all I got, for now. By no means a lock or anything like that. I've been given a matchup that I love with a number I love. Combine that with a very favorable handicapping edge that I gave them, and the way that I expect the game to play out playing right into the Sooner's hands... that gives me the big-play confidence. That's the short answer, I guess, DD. I'll freely admit this has been a frustrating season for me... my only losing season in ncaa football since I started betting 4 years ago. So maybe this is good fade material. I just thought that I have this confidence, so I will post...
 

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Thor,

Awesome explanation. I can't ask for anything more. I was originally leaning towards the Aggies, but going to definately questions my play now. Aggies have been lucky, but it's better to be lucky than good IMO. Besides, I would say A&M has been very opportunistic. Also, they could easily be 9-0 if they hadn't gotten burnt deep against Tx Tech.
Keep in mind, Kansas has been unlucky or unopportunistic and look at them?

Good Luck Thor and I hope this season turns around for you!
 

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Hey, at least KU basketball started tonight. They are one athletic team adding Collins and Arthur. They are arguably the deepest team in the country with everyone healthy and not suspended.
 

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Thor,

Awesome explanation. I can't ask for anything more. I was originally leaning towards the Aggies, but going to definately questions my play now. Aggies have been lucky, but it's better to be lucky than good IMO. Besides, I would say A&M has been very opportunistic. Also, they could easily be 9-0 if they hadn't gotten burnt deep against Tx Tech.
Keep in mind, Kansas has been unlucky or unopportunistic and look at them?

Good Luck Thor and I hope this season turns around for you!

Thanks man... and I agree with you: better to be lucky than good. I think TAMU's luck runs out against the first superior opponent they have played, though.
The way I have been running... you oughtta stay on the Aggies...

I'm excited as hell about hoops. I stayed home from the game tonight to watch the WV-Lou. game and "study" for my math test tomorrow. Whatever. KU's looked pretty good when I have switched over to Ch. 15. Lets hope Kaun can heal quickly... we wont fair well against Florida with Arthur starting at C and Jackson backing him up, I think.
 

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I am new to the wagering scene Thor but look at and respect your plays each week. I have been mulling this game since the lines came out and just locked OU in at -2. Thank you for not only this, but all of your posts.
 

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What do you think of this parlay Thor?

OU - 2 over A & M
Hawaii -27 over Utah St.
BC -3 1/2 over Wake
 

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Trollin, lets get a big cash here, man.

Schmoos, thanks for the kind words. As for the parlay... to be honest I don't play many parlays, and I try not to venture beyond the Big 12 often.
Generally, I don't play huge road chalk. I know Hawaii has been good this year, and is a much improved road team, but USU is a feisty team coming off of a bye, so I wouldn't put it past them to make this a respectable game.
No opinion on the BC/Wake game... there are some very good ACC cappers on this site that could help you there better than I could.
GL with it if you play it.
 

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GL to you Thor. I totally agree with the OU pick. I'm not sure what happened to my Baylor Bears, but the season is over with the loss of Bell. The Aggies lose their last 3 by blowouts. They are the classic definition of overrated.
 

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I agree on the Okla call Thor... this will be A&M's first gm against a top 40 defense (Okla #4), and they won't be able to run like they want. Okla's allowing just 77 ypg rushing their L5 gms, A&M avgs 214 ypg rushing. Okla played a much tougher sched and I think A&M hits a wall this week...

another good call on Utah St. I think too...
Hawaii's offense is great! but...Its a loooong way from Honolulu to Logan, Utah and playing at high altitude, might be cold and crappy weather... and Utah St. has improved quite a bit throughout the year...
Hawaii is 2-10 in Nov. away gms...not worth laying 20+ pts to me...
 

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NOTICED YOUR AVATAR- YOU FOLLOW THOSE HAWKS - I THINK THEY KILL ISU WHATS YOUR TAKE
 
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