How about we just move OSU/Michigan to Arizona and call it a year

[The Big Tease]

I have never seen a year with so many mediocre teams in my life........Ohio State and Michigan have beaten up on a pretty bad Big 10, and also may not be as good as advertised, but they are best of this lot........

I'd probably rank the 1 loss teams like this........

California
Texas
USC
Auburn
Florida
Notre Dame
Arkansas
Louisville
West Virginia
Wisconsin
Wake Forest

Do we just pull em out of a hat????

 

[ctownguy]

Finally someone else that thinks Cal should be up there ahead of some of these other pretenders.

Been saying to watch Cal for awhile now, if they beat USC and win out I see them playing the OSU/mich winner for it all.

 

[gjn23]

love cal and can see them beating sc.....that game will be a toss up and of couse i think the winner has a legitimate say as the #2 team but think only sc can actually get there

cal only has arizona...maybe az gets them ... and stanford left (in add to sc) and they likely wont be able to jump tex-fla-aub unless those teams lose (even though they might be better)

i think cal is a perfect example of negative bias vs the pac-10.....they lose in week one at tenn and take a huge dump in the human polls that they likely wont be able to overcome......if a sec goes on the road in week one and loses to a solid pac-10 or big-10 team would they drop out of sight?

 

[gman2]

california is a great team. but this is the year they needed the game to be in berkeley. theyre not beating, nor likely staying within 10 of, usc in the coliseum. but i do agree that they should deserve to be in the discussion. i was big on them last year toward the end of the season and theyre still getting better.

 

[gjn23]

california is a great team. but this is the year they needed the game to be in berkeley. theyre not beating, nor likely staying within 10 of, usc in the coliseum. but i do agree that they should deserve to be in the discussion. i was big on them last year toward the end of the season and theyre still getting better.

actually i think that game has a chance to be much more competitve than osu-mich

this is cal's best chance to beat sc and if booty plays like he's been all year they can force some int's....if booty plays like he did in the 4q vs osu then sc can win

cal is loaded on offense and look better than they did 2 years ago when rodgers was there as a sr.

 

[Sun Tzu]

How can I say Cal is a great team? They played arguably one good team and got destroyed - by an SEC team that wont even win its division. How is that Pac 10 anti-bias - it is a fact. Florida won at Tenn and played a tougher schedule and you put Cal ahead of them? LSU gets ridiculed by some here and won there.

Wasnt Cal down 5 touchdowns? Of course the plummeted in the polls and rightly so. Texas fell 8 places losing to Ohio State, Florida fell 7 when it lost, and so on. Cal wasnt treated much worse even though they probably should have. But to you gusy they barely beat the Huskies and blow out a couple average Pac 10 teams and now they are great?

Dont get me wrong, I think Cal is a very good team. But there isnt anything objective I see to place them ahead of other one loss teams.

 

[gjn23]

How can I say Cal is a great team? They played arguably one good team and got destroyed - by an SEC team that wont even win its division. How is that Pac 10 anti-bias - it is a fact. Florida won at Tenn and played a tougher schedule and you put Cal ahead of them? LSU gets ridiculed by some here and won there.

Wasnt Cal down 5 touchdowns? Of course the plummeted in the polls and rightly so. Texas fell 8 places losing to Ohio State, Florida fell 7 when it lost, and so on. Cal wasnt treated much worse even though they probably should have. But to you gusy they barely beat the Huskies and blow out a couple average Pac 10 teams and now they are great?

Dont get me wrong, I think Cal is a very good team. But there isnt anything objective I see to place them ahead of other one loss teams.

take your entire write up and replace the word "texas" for cal and "ohio state" for tenn....(dont forget to mention tex lost at home)

what has tex done and who have they beat to clearly "deserve" the #3 spot right now above fla-sc-cal-aub-nd (who lost at home to mich, just like tex lost to the other undefeated team)????

 

[Sun Tzu]

I never have written that Texas deserves it. But again lets not let facts get in the way.

But losing to OSU anywhere has got to be better than losing to Oregon State or a two loss - after Saturday probably 3 - Tennessee.

 

[gjn23]

I never have written that Texas deserves it. But again lets not let facts get in the way.

But losing to OSU anywhere has got to be better than losing to Oregon State or a two loss - after Saturday probably 3 - Tennessee.

again it all comes back to opinions and in the end it may be decided on the field in the next 4 weeks

at worst there will be 4 one loss teams to choose from (at best 2 one loss teams)

mich-osu loser (i'll eliminate them because of the recent loss)

tex (but if osu loses to mich how can tex get in above osu?)

sc-cal-nd (at least one will lose and likely 2)

fla (the weakest team of the bunch but strong in the bcs right now)

i'll toss out auburn because if they cant get into the sec title game they dont deserve to be in the bcs title game (i'll also toss out a 1 loss ark to pass the above teams as it will be too much to overcome)

 

[Mags]

Why in the world is nobody talking about..

Why in the world is nobody talking about..

the loser of Ohio State-Michigan being the team that plays the winner in the championship game...

The team that loses that game will have the best "quality loss" (along with TX) in the nation...

Why wouldn't they go, instead of a USC, who lost to Oregon?

It is ASSUMED that since they lost their last game that they are automatically out?

Thats what sucks about this system - WHEN you lose means so much more than who you actually lose to........

It should be Ohio State and Michigan - no matter what happens when they play each other.

IMHO....(yea, I know, Opinions are like A*****, we all have one)

 

[ferdville]

SC will lose to either Cal or ND. I don't see how they beat both. Remember Cal came within a 4th and goal of beating SC at the Coliseum not long ago. I think it will be a very close game and might give the edge to Cal. SC has been overhyped this year - they are not anything near to teams of last two years - how could they be with the guys they have lost. Injuries have hurt them (like everybody else) and they are not a dominating team against strong competition. Their offensive coordinator is weak and will probably be replaced at year's end. But the expectations have been too high all year. I am far from a USC hater having graduated from there long ago - just being honest.

 

[gjn23]

SC will lose to either Cal or ND. I don't see how they beat both. Remember Cal came within a 4th and goal of beating SC at the Coliseum not long ago. I think it will be a very close game and might give the edge to Cal. SC has been overhyped this year - they are not anything near to teams of last two years - how could they be with the guys they have lost. Injuries have hurt them (like everybody else) and they are not a dominating team against strong competition. Their offensive coordinator is weak and will probably be replaced at year's end. But the expectations have been too high all year. I am far from a USC hater having graduated from there long ago - just being honest.

i totally agree with you, but the point is IF sc wins out then they have a great chance at getting into the BCS title game

should cal win out, not as good a chance and i'd say no chance that they get in unless tex-fla-aub- lose.

 

[Sun Tzu]

i totally agree with you, but the point is IF sc wins out then they have a great chance at getting into the BCS title game

should cal win out, not as good a chance and i'd say no chance that they get in unless tex-fla-aub- lose.

Cal is dead absent everybody else losing.

USC can certainly get in, but they would need to pass Auburn and Florida in the human polls. So they need those teams to lose, or hope voters leap them. So much depends on how much adjusting the voters do with one loss teams in the upcoming polls.

 

[gjn23]

Cal is dead absent everybody else losing.

USC can certainly get in, but they would need to pass Auburn and Florida in the human polls. So they need those teams to lose, or hope voters leap them. So much depends on how much adjusting the voters do with one loss teams in the upcoming polls.

you're right and my point has been

IT WILL HAPPEN IF SC WINS OUT

the whole:

sc beat ark who beat aub who beat fla will be pounded into peoples heads vaulting sc past fla-aub in the human polls after sc beats oreg-cal-nd(and possibly past texas).

I'd be shocked if sc wasnt 3rd in the human polls after thanksgiving weekend, even if there was still a 1 loss mich, tex, fla, aub out there.

 

[ferdville]

Definitely don't disagree.

 

[TouchdownJesus]

The "system" sucks no matter how you put it. You can't control your own destiny.

You can influence str. of schedule, but what happens you schedule non-conf. games against oklahoma, miami, and fsu. Sure sounds like the toughest non-conf. schedule in history. What if all 3 teams go 5-6 or worse?

Well, you get penalized. The system is unbelievable...to have all the money and all the technology. Just let conf. winners play each other for the title. Its fair.

 

[TouchdownJesus]

After saying that, these next 3 weeks are about the closest thing to a playoff.

OSU/Mich is a playoff game. Winner goes to the title game.
USC/Notre Dame could factor in.
USC/Cal....

Also, where does Rutgers go now? If W.Va is unbeaten and #3, then L'ville is unbeaten and #3...both trying to win the nat'l championship. What happens if Rutgers finishes unbeaten and beats both of them?

Yeah, the system is horrid. I've been against the BCS since day one, and I've been for a playoff since I was about 12 years old.