thanks tpaine, im gonna check it out.......actually, i either multi table really low limits to grind out a few bucks ($1-2 usually) or I play 1-2 NL one table with all my focus and concentration.......in the low limit naturally everything gets done agressively, I'm referring to the NL games.....ie I hadnt hit sets for a long time then started getting them all at once and got paid on none like you said, I hit a set of 8's but there were 3 hearts on the board so I came out firing they all folded ( 2 or 3 opponents I didnt want someone to get a free heart, but didnt get paid off, maybe check it once and hope a heart doesnt come out and someone stabs at the pot for you?) and also hit a set of 5's in the same instance.......basically I have a tough time playing big hands, as well as trying to extract money from top pair, big pockets, etc, just wondering peoples thoughts, any ideas? I'll post some hand histories when I have a chance.....gonna try pokertracker, as I really try to find no limit 1-2 tables with lowstacked, bad players, low-limit 1-2 limit I just play whatever as its a grind for beer money, how much is pokertracker, 50-60$ or so?