Don't be surprised if Ohio State goes to the running game a lot in this one. They have a tremendous line and two great running backs.
With that said, I like the under in this one as well.
A lot of Florida Backers on the board
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Don't be surprised if Ohio State goes to the running game a lot in this one. They have a tremendous line and two great running backs.
With that said, I like the under in this one as well.
I agree OSU will run it a ton, but I look for Tressel to set the run up with the pass first as most good coaches do. Bottomline is that Florida will be overmatched trying to stop OSU attack.
You are picking and choosing your stats too apparently...LSU outgained them by 9 yards...
Florida can't have a letup game against Vandy, but Ohio State can have one against Illinois?
South Carolina and Florida State both won bowl games...those are not gimmie victories by any stretch...esp. considering they can both be rivalry games (with Spurrier coming back to the swamp).
Florida can definitely win with no turnovers and if they get 3 they might beat them by 14 or more points.
Unicorn, good write up
i think the total and the teams playing, scream over, you make great points about the fast track, and qualtiy of athletes and speed that will be playing.......same points to push me to the over in the vtech.georgia game.........I would love to see a shootout
but, playing the under gives me that feeling i'm throwing my money away, and like i always say, these are the ones that usually hit.......
Ive seen way too many people on the over, everyone pointing to the mich-osu and fla-ark games...........both schools avg 400 yds a game, (Boise-Ok) same field.......but total dropped, I'm hoping it goes up to atleast 47, 47.5 and i'll buy to 48...........like you said, Fla will see a heavy dose of Pittman and Wells, 2 guys that seem to have gone unnoticed with Troy smith.......I also see Fla fast enough to thrawt a few of OSU's drives, and OSU being coached and disciplined enough to prevent the trick plays from doing damage......
I can see this title game starting out slow in the first half like last years title game and i'm banking on the fireworks from erupting in the 2nd half.......
I havent played it yet, but feel its the right side
could be another 80 pt game :com: so i'll wait and keep working on it
i think the total and the teams playing, scream over, you make great points about the fast track, and qualtiy of athletes and speed that will be playing.......same points to push me to the over in the vtech.georgia game.........I would love to see a shootout
but, playing the under gives me that feeling i'm throwing my money away, and like i always say, these are the ones that usually hit.......
Ive seen way too many people on the over, everyone pointing to the mich-osu and fla-ark games...........both schools avg 400 yds a game, (Boise-Ok) same field.......but total dropped, I'm hoping it goes up to atleast 47, 47.5 and i'll buy to 48...........like you said, Fla will see a heavy dose of Pittman and Wells, 2 guys that seem to have gone unnoticed with Troy smith.......I also see Fla fast enough to thrawt a few of OSU's drives, and OSU being coached and disciplined enough to prevent the trick plays from doing damage......
I can see this title game starting out slow in the first half like last years title game and i'm banking on the fireworks from erupting in the 2nd half.......
I havent played it yet, but feel its the right side
could be another 80 pt game :com: so i'll wait and keep working on it
These threads remind me of the Okla/Boise St arguments. Bosie St couldn't win that game, right. Mich played Ohio St tough but except for a couple of rookie mistakes by a qt playing his first game Vanderbilt might have beat Mich. Was tied at the half. Now let's get a little more serious. Fla played 9 bowl teams who's record is 6-3 while OS played only 5 who went 3-2. Two of the three wins were against SEC teams that Fla had already beaten. I was surprised by the Ark loss but not the Tenn. In my opinion, Tenn was a little over rated all year. If Mich is supposed to be the second best team in the conference then Ohio St is in trouble. If I play this game I'll probably take the points and ML on Fla, but not for much.
Good luck everyone
Good luck everyone
They had no interest in playing? They had the whole nation thinking they were the ones who deserved to play OSU....So rather than go out and prove it, they decided to pack it in at the Rose Bowl? I doubt that....Did you not hear all the trash the Michigan players were talking leading up to that game....but then after being dominated, it's easy to come back and say, well we never really wanted to play in the Rose Bowl anyway....Nice try....
Michigan was exposed. Against OSU and USC....
Here's a couple points:
Who you played really has no bearing on how good a team is....that goes for either side....
Having said that..........I have a feeling this OSU team is being overrated by the fact that there appears to be no dominant team in CFB this year......That however, does not mean they ARE the dominant team. They are a team that played one of the weakest schedules in the nation (of the BCS conferences) and until Morelli realized he was a freshman, were tied with PSU into the 4th quarter....They got 2 b2b INT-TD's....But what is more telling is the offensive performance there...Florida is superior defensively at every position over PSU...IN fact with the athletes they have, if OSU does run 4 or 5 wide, UF doesn't have to go deep into the secondary, they have LB's that can cover Robiskie or whomever else.....
You can say their secondary is a joke besides Nelson...First of all, Nelson is the best safety in the nation....And, their CB's are on par with Leon Hall, just Hall is the most overrated player in the nation. Another thing, people talk about Michigan's defense....The stats say they're great...Reality says otherwise...Or if greatness is top 10-15 OK, I'll give you that.......But Michigan has maybe 2 guys on defense that would start on Florida's defense. IN fact, UF will field the best defense Troy Smith has faced in his whole career.
I still think this game comes down to QB play...And I have a hard time going against Troy Smith in this game....But, athlete for athlete I can't help get passed the fact that OSU as a team is overrated, and UF is being severely underrated...And I'll take the points and the value is there for UF..
Who you played really has no bearing on how good a team is....that goes for either side....
Having said that..........I have a feeling this OSU team is being overrated by the fact that there appears to be no dominant team in CFB this year......That however, does not mean they ARE the dominant team. They are a team that played one of the weakest schedules in the nation (of the BCS conferences) and until Morelli realized he was a freshman, were tied with PSU into the 4th quarter....They got 2 b2b INT-TD's....But what is more telling is the offensive performance there...Florida is superior defensively at every position over PSU...IN fact with the athletes they have, if OSU does run 4 or 5 wide, UF doesn't have to go deep into the secondary, they have LB's that can cover Robiskie or whomever else.....
You can say their secondary is a joke besides Nelson...First of all, Nelson is the best safety in the nation....And, their CB's are on par with Leon Hall, just Hall is the most overrated player in the nation. Another thing, people talk about Michigan's defense....The stats say they're great...Reality says otherwise...Or if greatness is top 10-15 OK, I'll give you that.......But Michigan has maybe 2 guys on defense that would start on Florida's defense. IN fact, UF will field the best defense Troy Smith has faced in his whole career.
I still think this game comes down to QB play...And I have a hard time going against Troy Smith in this game....But, athlete for athlete I can't help get passed the fact that OSU as a team is overrated, and UF is being severely underrated...And I'll take the points and the value is there for UF..
GSP
GSP
I am a dogs player. I loved Boise St. and played them big at +7.5. and I especially loved Texas last season and hit them big with points and on the moneyline. this game tonight is far different from my perspective. Boise St. ran the table this year and were very impressive. I don't care what anybody says about their schedule they beat some good teams in my opinion. Meanwhile, OK had a good season but I was never high on QB Thompson, who did overachieve all season in my opinion.
Last season, Tex won at the horseshoe at night and I lost big on that game, from then on I knew Young and Horns were the real deal. Then USC should have lost to ND, so I figured they were walking a fine line as well, especially poor on defense.
This year OSU has shown no blemishes in my opinion other than early problems stopping the run, something that Myer and gators will not be able to do anyway. Florida and meyer are not the type that run between the tackles. This OSU team is special.
GSP
I am a dogs player. I loved Boise St. and played them big at +7.5. and I especially loved Texas last season and hit them big with points and on the moneyline. this game tonight is far different from my perspective. Boise St. ran the table this year and were very impressive. I don't care what anybody says about their schedule they beat some good teams in my opinion. Meanwhile, OK had a good season but I was never high on QB Thompson, who did overachieve all season in my opinion.
Last season, Tex won at the horseshoe at night and I lost big on that game, from then on I knew Young and Horns were the real deal. Then USC should have lost to ND, so I figured they were walking a fine line as well, especially poor on defense.
This year OSU has shown no blemishes in my opinion other than early problems stopping the run, something that Myer and gators will not be able to do anyway. Florida and meyer are not the type that run between the tackles. This OSU team is special.
Very good analysis - but the part about "who you played has no bearing on how good a team is" I dont know if I agree with that - You have to have some standard to make the argument on one side or the other -
The A beat B and B beat C therefor A can beat C is ridiculous, yet a lot of people still use the common opponents as a handicapping tool, but you are right - each team matches up differently with another.
Some teams are so good that the matchups won't matter...I dont see that with this Ohio State team, based strictly on the fact I am not impressed with the big 10 or any of their non-conference wins other than Texas...and even that win wasn't all that great.
All in all, I don't see greatness in this Ohio State team like others do...at least NOT YET. Beat the gators handily, and I was definitely wrong.
All I meant was, if this exact OSU team played in the C-USA, they would be just as good or just as not good as they are....The players would be just as talented....What I'm saying is that the quality of your team isn't determined by who you play.....It's determined by you and who's on your team.....Having said that, this OSU team hasn't really been tested, so I'm on the fence as to them being the dominant force they are supposed to be....Like you, if I'm wrong I'm wrong...Won't be the first time.
Dizzy
I agree with you, I've been wrong before but I feel that the Big Ten did fine in the Bowls and beat the speed of the Sec in two of the Bowls that it matched-up against. They also gave everyone a game except for Michigan. The Buckeyes will probably get up and play conservative in the 4th Q and let Florida cover but I feel they will handle Florida's speed. Ohio St. is quite fast on offence also and Florida better watch out! Here are some bowl scores of the Mighty SEC and how the Big Ten faired with some other good teams from other conferences thrown in.
Minnesota 41(Melt down)
Texas Tec 44
Iowa 24
Texas 26
Tenn 10
Penn St. 20
Ark 14
Wisc 17
Aub 17 (barely won)
Neb 14
Usc 32
Mich 18 (Did not come to play)
Ohio State will win this game!!! :bigun:
I agree with you, I've been wrong before but I feel that the Big Ten did fine in the Bowls and beat the speed of the Sec in two of the Bowls that it matched-up against. They also gave everyone a game except for Michigan. The Buckeyes will probably get up and play conservative in the 4th Q and let Florida cover but I feel they will handle Florida's speed. Ohio St. is quite fast on offence also and Florida better watch out! Here are some bowl scores of the Mighty SEC and how the Big Ten faired with some other good teams from other conferences thrown in.
Minnesota 41(Melt down)
Texas Tec 44
Iowa 24
Texas 26
Tenn 10
Penn St. 20
Ark 14
Wisc 17
Aub 17 (barely won)
Neb 14
Usc 32
Mich 18 (Did not come to play)
Ohio State will win this game!!! :bigun:
As a Florida alum who lives in Jacksonville, FL I don't think you are being objective in this one. Florida wins the game by 3 touchdowns. 
Hopefully we will get a good game and the team that deserves the win will get it. I am looking forward to this one.
Hopefully we will get a good game and the team that deserves the win will get it. I am looking forward to this one.
I like Florida. I have no reasoning why I just do.
I'll take the pts for sure. Just my 2cents
GLTA
I'll take the pts for sure. Just my 2cents
GLTA
Wow. That's all I can say.
11-2 Michigan, and 12-1 Wisconsin out there and Penn State is #2?
Michigan has it's own merits, even with losing to a good USC team.
Wisky beat Arkansas - went 12-1. Penn State lost to Wisky, and beat a lesser SEC team in Tennessee in the bowls. (Capitol One bowl gets the higher ranked SEC and Big 10 teams than the Outback bowl).
Wisky will finish the year #3 in the polls (unless FLA gets the upset tonight, then #4).
Final poll:
1. Ohio State
2. LSU
3. Wisconsin
4. Florida
5. USC
What are you smoking?
I actually forgot about Wisky -
That is kind of crazy that Mich was favored by 14 against Wisconsin earlier this year...now that I think about it. The sad thing is it was a push.
That is kind of crazy that Mich was favored by 14 against Wisconsin earlier this year...now that I think about it. The sad thing is it was a push.
Actually, that was a good line on the game. Not much was expected out of Wisconsin this year. They were picked for 5th in the Big 10 to start the year.
They lost their top 2 running backs (B. Calhoun was 3rd round pick by Det), top 2 receivers (Orr - 4th round pick, B. Williams - 3rd round pick), top 3 tight ends (O. Daniels drafted by Hou). And a new coach.
They had a great year, given all the talent they had to replace. They were unranked before the year even started - which is understandable given all the talent they lost.
It will be interesting to see how good they are next year - they could be even better. Of course, losing Joe Thomas (Outland Trophy winner and definite top 5 pick) and starting QB Stocco will hurt, but hopefully they can find suitable replacements.
Now, on to tonight - Go Bucks! Represent the Big 10, please! (for my wallet's sake)
You may be right.
Somehow it doesn't seem fair to have a team (USC) lose to 2 unranked teams, and have Wisky only lose to the #3 team in Michigan (well, #3 until the final poll that is) and then have USC ranked ahead of Wisky.
Wisky played a bunch of unranked teams this year (11 of them to be exact) and didn't lose to ANY of them. :scared
Somehow, mighty USC lost to 2 of them. :mj07:
So, should USC be ranked ahead of Wisky? I say not.
My guess that Wisky's win against the SEC #2 team (based on who was in SEC champ game) will carry enough weight to keep them ahead of USC.
