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I realize that a lot of people hate to read,but there is a great book called"What Color is Your Parachute?" that is worth the asking price. It is a great resource. The author has been publishing updated versions since the early 70's (I believe). There is a section on the effectiveness of different job-seeking methods. If I remember correctly, sending your resume directly and applying online were two of the least effective methods. Worth a look.
 

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I realize that a lot of people hate to read,but there is a great book called"What Color is Your Parachute?" that is worth the asking price. It is a great resource. The author has been publishing updated versions since the early 70's (I believe). There is a section on the effectiveness of different job-seeking methods. If I remember correctly, sending your resume directly and applying online were two of the least effective methods. Worth a look.

Good to know, and I will look into it. Thanks for the tip, going to check out the book this weekend.
 

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Midland/Odessa has best round year temperature as anywhere. Average around 70 degrees. The cities are booming and will be for the next ten years or longer. You can train for jobs in the oil field business they are BEGGING for help. I cut a young guy hair yesterday(20) he is being paid over $70,000 a year working on a oil rig. He said they paid to train him and he works 7 days and off 4 days. Airport is close by and you can fly anywhere to party.........
 

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Midland/Odessa has best round year temperature as anywhere. Average around 70 degrees. The cities are booming and will be for the next ten years or longer. You can train for jobs in the oil field business they are BEGGING for help. I cut a young guy hair yesterday(20) he is being paid over $70,000 a year working on a oil rig. He said they paid to train him and he works 7 days and off 4 days. Airport is close by and you can fly anywhere to party.........

That really is amazing.....Well, pros of Midland would be.....1) weather (sucks in NY)....2) cost of living (sucks in NY, great there)....3) no state income tax....4) gorgeous girls.....5) relaxing.......cons being, not a ton doing, no pro sports, etc....But, 70k in Midland must take you a LONG way.....I like everything you said, especially the growth part of the area, nice place to meet a lady and work hard make $ and live much better than up here. would you mind if I got your email address, wanted to find out some more info about the area and some job stuff, if you dont mind, appreciate it....Hey, I'm young, wtf else do I have to do, may as well move somewhere warm & cheap and work hard/play hard, isnt like Im leaving anything behind in NY....
Blackman, sorry to hijack your thread bro...I would think minor league MLB teams etc hire people but probably a b*tch to work, but got the LI Ducks, Bridgeport Ct Team, lakewood, etc, and obviously colleges, how about being an SID type thing, was something interesting to me until I realized I couldnt do it probably :shrug:
 

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You are going to live in New York until you die of old age or you smart mouth the wrong person.

you already know this to be true..

why waste anyones time. It was funny when at first you said , Texas, fawk that. Then when the money talk came you were enthralled.

If you hated being in NY so much, you wouldnt have ever moved back there from Florida. You would have gone anywhere but back there.

Geez Louise.

your just stupid

PS if you think you could hold a job on a oil rig for 30 days you are kidding yourself. :142smilie

You would be crying to get back to land after rocking around for a week and puking all over everything.

The first job they give newbies like you is changing out the drill bits, and removing shale etc.

The drills are huge and you have to be quick and strong or the drill will cut off a few of your fingers
in a second. Most of them just wrap a bandage tight around the cut off fingers, and keep working.

I dont know if your right handed but that could do some severe damage to your love life.

PS did you land any babes in Vegas , you seem like a big ladys man ?

just sayin
 

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To be successful in seeking offshore employment, you must be willing to do what average and ordinary people are not willing to do.

First of all, there?s likely to be travel involved with your job. Ron Edwards, for example, has been at it since 1972 and has worked alongside Americans, Spaniards, Brazilians, Norwegians, Dutchmen, Mexicans, Englishmen, Filipinos and Australians.

He says he?s seen the good, the bad, and the ugly, but he?s made a lot of friends, as well as a few acquaintances that were not quite so friendly. His only regret is he didn?t get started sooner. Do not be misled by rumours you might hear about the kind of people who work offshore.

The oil field is composed of people like yourself, people who are looking for the same things in life you are: job security, an interesting career, an opportunity to better themselves.

They come from all walks of life: farmers, lawyers, preachers, musicians, bankers, businessmen, labourers, university graduates, medical personnel, time-served military personnel, male and female alike. You will find one of every kind in the oil field.

The Complete Offshore Employment Handbook If you are interested in working in the offshore oil and gas or maritime industry, you are at the right place at the right time. The Complete Offshore Employment Handbook was written to provide you with information and guidance you need to help you find an job in this adventurous industry.



Also, do not be discouraged by any stories you might have heard about how hard working offshore is, or that they will work you to death. Naturally the work is hard, but if you are in good physical condition and are willing to work, you shouldn't have any trouble adjusting to the increased work load.

Bear in mind offshore work is not for everyone. It requires that you be away from home, sometimes for weeks at a time. More often than not, the drilling vessel you are on will not even be in sight of land. It involves long and hard hours, working in all kinds of weather and conditions as well as in some dangerous situations. Working in a gale in the North Sea or 100 miles out in the Caribbean sea in the middle of a hurricane can be a frightening experience!

On the plus side it is very rewarding and exciting. The food is good, the quarters are clean and well kept, and the benefits and opportunities for advancement are excellent. It is not uncommon for a person starting at the bottom with no previous oil field experience to be making ?40,000 to ?60,000 a year, and that is for working only six months out of the year!

Entry-level positions start at ?500 to ?800 per week. Dishwashers and BR hands (who wash dishes, sweep and mop floors, put up inventory and do general house-cleaning in the living quarters) earn ?600 per week.

Roustabouts (general labourers) earn ?700 to ?1,000 per week. Other entry level positions are deckhands, oilers, welder helpers, cleaner painters and so on; and there are currently plenty of openings.

Here?s some helpful information you might like to know to help you decide if working offshore is for you.

Health Requirements

The first and foremost requirement for working offshore is that you be in sound physical condition. You will be required to pass a thorough physical examination, including a spinal X- ray, before you can be employed. Answer all questions truthfully. You will also be given a drug screening.

Age

In most cases, you must be at least 18 to work offshore for a drilling contractor. The average age for offshore workers is 27.

Experience

The better your experience in your particular field or profession, the closer prospective employers will look you at. If you do not currently have any skill or experience that relates to the offshore industry, it does not mean you will not be hired.

There are many entry level positions available which require no previous offshore experience, these can be quickly learned. The most important thing is honesty. Do not misrepresent yourself, your experience, or your skills. For example, do not claim to be a pipe welder if you've only had experience on plate. Or, do not claim to be a diesel mechanic if the only experience you have is doing minor tune-ups in a garage.

Education

The majority of entry level rig jobs do not require a formal education as the employer is more interested in your ability to do your job well and learn quickly than in how many years you went to school. Some jobs, such as a ballast controlman, mud engineer, etc., require at least a secondary level school education. Other positions, as they get more complex, will naturally require higher levels of education.

Dependability

One of the foremost concerns of offshore employers is dependability. Regardless of how good a hand is, he isn't much good if he isn't there! One of the quickest ways to lose your job is not to show up for crew change. When you sign on with a company, you become part of a team, and it is difficult to operate when any member of the team is not present.

Interest/Ambition

Your interest and ambition will play a very important part in your getting and keeping a job, whether it be offshore or anywhere else.


Offshore work is an immensely interesting field, and interest in learning your job and others, as well, sparks ambition. Once you get in and get some basic experience you can move into many different areas involved in all phases of the industry.

Benefits

Benefits of companies involved in the oil and gas industry range from virtually nonexistent to excellent. The better companies will provide major medical insurance, dental insurance, life insurance, and profit sharing.

Advancement and Training

Advancement offshore will depend primarily on the company you work for and your particular abilities. All companies want you to advance. They want you to become better trained so you can take a more responsible position. Some companies have excellent training programs to help you move up the ladder with trainee slots for most positions. Other companies have only marginally efficient training programs, or none whatsoever.

The length of time it takes to complete a course ranges anywhere from a few days to several weeks. If you attend any of these courses in your off-time, you will usually be paid your normal wages (eight hours a day if you are an hourly-paid employee). Salaried people normally don't receive compensation for special courses as their attendance is part of their job requirement. Room and board are provided for both salaried and hourly workers, and compensation is often given for mileage travelled.

Outside courses include Able Seaman, Life Boatman, Master, Offshore Drilling Units, Marine Firefighting, EMD Maintenance and Operation (representing the Electric Motor Division of General Motors), BOP schools, and the list goes on and on. The more courses you complete, the more credentials you have when you shop for another job. What this means is the company you're working for is financing your future. Thank them!

Available Positions

There are many good positions available in offshore drilling. The list is very long, and many positions are available at entry level as well as for professionals seeking a new career orientation. Because the list is long, we suggest you order the complete handbook without delay while the going is still very good.

So, how does one apply for employment on an off-shore drilling rig? There are four ways to secure offshore employment. The personal physical search is the least effective, and any success is usually attributed to near luck.

A more effective way to search is through newspaper ads, but the most effective way to job search is through a professional placement agency. Companies that offer offshore, maritime, or overseas jobs fall into one of two categories. The first is the kind of agency that places you in a job and charges you a fee for doing so. The other is the kind that sells you a list of potential employers and you are responsible for placing yourself. OR - buy my comprehensive guide and get yourself an offshore job - or you pay me nothing.
 

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thats true scott, but money does talk does it not? Obviously you are an expert on the topic, nobody said it would be easy and maybe I couldnt hack it, I just felt it was worth exploring, no? getting fingers cut off, if that was a risk, would be terrible and make me think twice, it was just thinking about options, thanks as always for the worthless reply scott, come out to vegas sometime and get off your computer and meet some people on the site :nono:
 

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To be successful in seeking offshore employment, you must be willing to do what average and ordinary people are not willing to do.

First of all, there?s likely to be travel involved with your job. Ron Edwards, for example, has been at it since 1972 and has worked alongside Americans, Spaniards, Brazilians, Norwegians, Dutchmen, Mexicans, Englishmen, Filipinos and Australians.

He says he?s seen the good, the bad, and the ugly, but he?s made a lot of friends, as well as a few acquaintances that were not quite so friendly. His only regret is he didn?t get started sooner. Do not be misled by rumours you might hear about the kind of people who work offshore.

The oil field is composed of people like yourself, people who are looking for the same things in life you are: job security, an interesting career, an opportunity to better themselves.

They come from all walks of life: farmers, lawyers, preachers, musicians, bankers, businessmen, labourers, university graduates, medical personnel, time-served military personnel, male and female alike. You will find one of every kind in the oil field.

The Complete Offshore Employment Handbook If you are interested in working in the offshore oil and gas or maritime industry, you are at the right place at the right time. The Complete Offshore Employment Handbook was written to provide you with information and guidance you need to help you find an job in this adventurous industry.



Also, do not be discouraged by any stories you might have heard about how hard working offshore is, or that they will work you to death. Naturally the work is hard, but if you are in good physical condition and are willing to work, you shouldn't have any trouble adjusting to the increased work load.

Bear in mind offshore work is not for everyone. It requires that you be away from home, sometimes for weeks at a time. More often than not, the drilling vessel you are on will not even be in sight of land. It involves long and hard hours, working in all kinds of weather and conditions as well as in some dangerous situations. Working in a gale in the North Sea or 100 miles out in the Caribbean sea in the middle of a hurricane can be a frightening experience!

On the plus side it is very rewarding and exciting. The food is good, the quarters are clean and well kept, and the benefits and opportunities for advancement are excellent. It is not uncommon for a person starting at the bottom with no previous oil field experience to be making ?40,000 to ?60,000 a year, and that is for working only six months out of the year!

Entry-level positions start at ?500 to ?800 per week. Dishwashers and BR hands (who wash dishes, sweep and mop floors, put up inventory and do general house-cleaning in the living quarters) earn ?600 per week.

Roustabouts (general labourers) earn ?700 to ?1,000 per week. Other entry level positions are deckhands, oilers, welder helpers, cleaner painters and so on; and there are currently plenty of openings.

Here?s some helpful information you might like to know to help you decide if working offshore is for you.

Health Requirements

The first and foremost requirement for working offshore is that you be in sound physical condition. You will be required to pass a thorough physical examination, including a spinal X- ray, before you can be employed. Answer all questions truthfully. You will also be given a drug screening.

Age

In most cases, you must be at least 18 to work offshore for a drilling contractor. The average age for offshore workers is 27.

Experience

The better your experience in your particular field or profession, the closer prospective employers will look you at. If you do not currently have any skill or experience that relates to the offshore industry, it does not mean you will not be hired.

There are many entry level positions available which require no previous offshore experience, these can be quickly learned. The most important thing is honesty. Do not misrepresent yourself, your experience, or your skills. For example, do not claim to be a pipe welder if you've only had experience on plate. Or, do not claim to be a diesel mechanic if the only experience you have is doing minor tune-ups in a garage.

Education

The majority of entry level rig jobs do not require a formal education as the employer is more interested in your ability to do your job well and learn quickly than in how many years you went to school. Some jobs, such as a ballast controlman, mud engineer, etc., require at least a secondary level school education. Other positions, as they get more complex, will naturally require higher levels of education.

Dependability

One of the foremost concerns of offshore employers is dependability. Regardless of how good a hand is, he isn't much good if he isn't there! One of the quickest ways to lose your job is not to show up for crew change. When you sign on with a company, you become part of a team, and it is difficult to operate when any member of the team is not present.

Interest/Ambition

Your interest and ambition will play a very important part in your getting and keeping a job, whether it be offshore or anywhere else.


Offshore work is an immensely interesting field, and interest in learning your job and others, as well, sparks ambition. Once you get in and get some basic experience you can move into many different areas involved in all phases of the industry.

Benefits

Benefits of companies involved in the oil and gas industry range from virtually nonexistent to excellent. The better companies will provide major medical insurance, dental insurance, life insurance, and profit sharing.

Advancement and Training

Advancement offshore will depend primarily on the company you work for and your particular abilities. All companies want you to advance. They want you to become better trained so you can take a more responsible position. Some companies have excellent training programs to help you move up the ladder with trainee slots for most positions. Other companies have only marginally efficient training programs, or none whatsoever.

The length of time it takes to complete a course ranges anywhere from a few days to several weeks. If you attend any of these courses in your off-time, you will usually be paid your normal wages (eight hours a day if you are an hourly-paid employee). Salaried people normally don't receive compensation for special courses as their attendance is part of their job requirement. Room and board are provided for both salaried and hourly workers, and compensation is often given for mileage travelled.

Outside courses include Able Seaman, Life Boatman, Master, Offshore Drilling Units, Marine Firefighting, EMD Maintenance and Operation (representing the Electric Motor Division of General Motors), BOP schools, and the list goes on and on. The more courses you complete, the more credentials you have when you shop for another job. What this means is the company you're working for is financing your future. Thank them!

Available Positions

There are many good positions available in offshore drilling. The list is very long, and many positions are available at entry level as well as for professionals seeking a new career orientation. Because the list is long, we suggest you order the complete handbook without delay while the going is still very good.

So, how does one apply for employment on an off-shore drilling rig? There are four ways to secure offshore employment. The personal physical search is the least effective, and any success is usually attributed to near luck.

A more effective way to search is through newspaper ads, but the most effective way to job search is through a professional placement agency. Companies that offer offshore, maritime, or overseas jobs fall into one of two categories. The first is the kind of agency that places you in a job and charges you a fee for doing so. The other is the kind that sells you a list of potential employers and you are responsible for placing yourself. OR - buy my comprehensive guide and get yourself an offshore job - or you pay me nothing.

I thought the jobs were in Texas and not in foreign countries? but yes physically demanding and I may not be able to do it, didnt say I could, but for 70k it is worth finding out as one can live good on that in cheap living in texas
 

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I may not be able to do it, didnt say I could, but for 70k it is worth finding out as one can live good on that in cheap living in texas
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Not a chance in fawking holy hell :142smilie :142smilie
 

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Not a chance in fawking holy hell :142smilie :142smilie

thanks for the confidence scotty....not in good enough physical shape? or what exactly is the problem since you're the expert on everything yet never show your face at parties
 

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Yeh Oil Rigs, 70 k , yeh thats the ticket
 

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ok Mike , reach in there and grab that drill when it a comes up out of that tunnel,

uhhhh I aint touching no drill Super.......

I will just go back to NY and you can stick

this oil rigging where the sun dont shine.

Like in Jersey
 

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.2) cost of living (sucks in NY, great there).


But, 70k in Midland must take you a LONG way.....

nice place to meet a lady and work hard make $ and live much better than up here.

.Hey, I'm young, wtf else do I have to do, may as well move somewhere warm & cheap
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Here is the reason why I think your more of a jerk than you even realize that you are.

you jump to the conclusion that Odessa Texas is going to be cheap. Easy money, cheap chit, cheap bars, cheap buildings, cheap people, cheap...

you know ......its cheap.....


Geez Louise...
 

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Also, do not be discouraged by any stories you might have heard about how hard working offshore is, or that they will work you to death
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they dont work you to death, they set you up working the drills, then you die.

:142smilie :142smilie :142smilie
 
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Goggle Midland/Odessa Texas..They are More jobs than just the oil and gas in this area EVERYONE is hiring...Sales(all kinds) Any kind of job is hiring and paying well. Professional too!! My daughter is a pharmacist with Walgreen's. They are hiring.They pay.OVER $100,000 a year to start......
 

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yea, lets not confuse pharmacists with manual labor type jobs. 100k for a pharmacist is normal.

yeah, pharmacists need extra or specialized schooling, I think? My basic point in all this is why not considering moving if theres great opportunity somewhere and job growth, ala vegas had experienced, scott went nuts as usual...i'm sure oil rig work is tough, and manual labor is tough in general but maybe theres white collat aspects...well, another 8 months still until I need to find a "real job" instead of poker online and the golf course :shrug:
 
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