Amercian Fascists

[Eddie Haskell]

So that I'm clear, Hedges book compares the Nazi rise to power in the 30's to what is occuring in the US today under neocon leadership, guidance and planning by Rove since the 60's. It compares the German peoples response to the threat of dictatorship favorably to the average, fly-over, red state citizens response to the Bush Administration, dominionism, and other positions of the Christian right.

That is the comparision that is chilling, frightening, and most probably fatal to the continuance of the freedoms we used to possess in the USA. As an aside, and only as an aside, I believe the the hard core Zionists in this country have much more in common with the Christian right than most are aware.

I am not anti-Jewish but have never been much of a Zionist. I don't understand how an area of the world that both sides can lay legitimate claim to should be awarded to the Jewish lobbyists of the world by the UN in 1948. You can't displace a bunch of people without the hair going up on someones back.

I don't disagree that progressive thinking comes out of University's. I mean after all, thats where the intellectuals come from that Bush distrusts so.
However, that links above are not in my view uncommon as to the schools, colleges and universitys in the midwest.

Put it this way, your going to find a lot more people interested in ROTC on campus than you will in the ACLU. Thats the way it is in red state country. Actually, most probably don't give a rats ass and are more interested in working for one of Waynes companies.

Sorry Saul but I tend to agree with Underbar here.

Eddie

 

[Eddie Haskell]

By the way, Wayne, not humiliated at all. I'm just right.

You are correct that i was a Viet Nam war protester. You are further correct that I was 100%, absolutely, without a doubt, against the invasion by the US of a country which was not a threat to it in anyway and which further distracted us from our search from the killer of 3000 who happens to be friends of the Bush family.

Yeah, dumb, dumb, you are right on both counts. And guess what Wayne, history has proven I was right to oppose both US disasters. The damage Bush and the neocons have done to this country is immeasurable and probably fatal.

But as long as you make money and corporate america hums along, Waynes world is okay. You are a sick person.

Eddie

 

[gardenweasel]

the christian right is the REAL threat.......a few fringe geezers like falwell and robertson...while the islamists plot to vaporize a few cities........lol

the left absolutely hates religion and especially christianity and the joos......it seems the only religion they are tolerant of is the religion of peace.....the joke is that they are the most tolerant of the one religion that would gladly kill or subjugate them.....

leftists don't understand that the separation between church and state simply means that the government cannot force a state run religion....as they do in islam......

go figure...

if you think about it,the leftists actually do want a state run religion - the religion of cradle to grave socialism....and as we see,socialism fails time and again...but, it doesnt matter....

military is an unnecessary thing of the past they say......look at europe they say...lol....the new caliphate....

maybe the left will stage a coup...

it would be funny watching eddie and the left start to train for a revolution....all that running around in the woods with guns..but,damn, look at all the pot patches that would get trampled.. :scared


liberalism...it`s a disease...i`m convinced....

you need to worry about something really scary,counselor....like loser pays.....


so, go sob into your organically farmed cornflakes,counselor.....as you hunch over your computer in your pajamas raging at conservatives and christianity and the joos.........or gaze at your wallet sized photo of che` guevara....

poor edward....when it comes to being consistently erroneous and totally unmoored from reality,you have no equal...

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Gary:

Been wondering where you've been? You are right about me tramping about in some jungle training for the revolution. As a squad leader, I would allow my men (gay & straight) and women to stop for a few tokes if we happen to come across anything worth smokin. We may not be the most trained squad but we would be a happy squad.

I don't know if my 120 pound, skinny white ass, Woody Allen look alike, frame could handle all that war and gooey stuff. I'm kind of an inside guy.

Pictures of Guevera are not in my wallet!!! Mao maybe but not Guevera. Also a picture of Hedges. This guy is right on, Gare. You outta take a look see. Then again, maybe not, theres no pictures.

liberalism is a disease? tell that to the 3000 dead Americans, 11,000 seriously wounded Americans and tens of thousands of dead Iraqi's killed by your neocon leader.

If so, I'll take the disease of liberalism over the evil of facism any day of the week, mein fuhrer.

Eddie

 

[gardenweasel]

Gary:

Been wondering where you've been? You are right about me tramping about in some jungle training for the revolution. As a squad leader, I would allow my men (gay & straight) and women to stop for a few tokes if we happen to come across anything worth smokin. We may not be the most trained squad but we would be a happy squad.

I don't know if my 120 pound, skinny white ass, Woody Allen look alike, frame could handle all that war and gooey stuff. I'm kind of an inside guy.

Pictures of Guevera are not in my wallet!!! Mao maybe but not Guevera. Also a picture of Hedges. This guy is right on, Gare. You outta take a look see. Then again, maybe not, theres no pictures.

""liberalism is a disease? tell that to the 3000 dead Americans, 11,000 seriously wounded Americans and tens of thousands of dead Iraqi's killed by your neocon leader.""

If so, I'll take the disease of liberalism over the evil of facism any day of the week, mein fuhrer.

Eddie

ahhh,the good ole` days.....reading this "bologna" reminds me of when as a young dopey kid....i too used to believe all of the crap they used to hand me.....the entire culture supported the anti war groups and the bring down the government crowd....

i don`t know what happened to recent generations..... i can only imagine the slip and fall`ers of this generation being around in 1932-1940.....or for that matter 1940-45.

decade of depression....a depression within a depression.....followed by huge war with a massive draft.....shortages of most goods.....

but i understand...it`s all about feelings....feelings and perceptions are everything to the left....if there's starvation in ethiopia, or farmers are going broke, or whatever, what do you do to help out?



that's right....write a song....celebrities hold a benefit concert.....that'll help.....if you disagree with a political policy then join up with your hippy buddies and go protest....wave signs..... that'll work....we don`t want to deal with the real threat...the real fascists....

you know,the ones that blew up 3,000 in the wtc....?.....intend to vaporize israel?....want to hang gays and kill anybody that doesn`t convert?.....yes,the REAL fascits....

taking the line that, if we fight back in any way, or criticize islam or try to do anything at all to defend ourselves (except, perhaps, abandon israel to its enemies, which you seem to think is the solution to EVERYTHING) we're evil racists, who are being insufficiently sensitive to third world persons of color.....lol


no,you`ve got a better idea....lets demonize some christians.... .lets cite some ridiculous moral relativism....yeah,that`s the ticket...that fits our political agenda...

actually it won't help or work, but it makes you feel better and it's much easier than actually coming up with a reasonable, well-informed, useful solution to the problem.....

it`s much easier than facing the real threat....

btw,i think you`re operating out of an old playbook......guys like robertson and falwell lost political relevance a decade ago.......


counselor,i like you...but i can`t figure out whether you got beat up too much in school, or not enough?

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Gare:

If I was living in Islamoworld, I'd be pumping the book written by Muhammed Hedges. But I'm not. I'm right here in the middle of the good ole USA and frightened shitless about whats happening to our former "free" society.

I'm sure theres a Osama Bin Haskell typing in Arabic to your bizarro world counterparts in Damascus. At least for the sake of the continuation of humankind on this earth, I hope so.

Eddie Haskell, freedom fighter.

 

[dr. freeze]

hey Ed, I thought you were in the Bahamas grieving over A.N. Smith right about now -- I knew E Haskill was your tag name but i could have sworn you were HK Stern, JD

then again, i must have given you too much credit -- thought you had taken a career step up and ended your game of chasing ambulances -- i guess HK Stern, leech, might be a step up the food chain

by the way, the only resemblence to what is going on in America with what went on in Germany, is you leftists are demonizing Christians the same way Hitler demonized the Jews. Blame all of soceity's ill on them. Get everyone to hate a particular group of people. They are too rich, too powerful, too ignorant, too intolerant, blah blah blah. Seems remarkably similiar. Too bad you wouldn't recognize it even if it was advertised on the back of an ambulance.

Good grief, the only relevance of Evangelical Christians in today's political climate, is being taken advantage of with all promises and no results. The whole gambling thing has nothing to do with morality and all to do with the IRS confiscating money. I am not sure any of the "radical wing" of the Republican party wants anything to do with the patriot act or the like. These are the most anti-government people you can ever meet for the most part.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Doctor:

Stuck in Cincinnati with the ice. However, I want you to be the first on this board to know, that I, Eddie Haskell, may also be the father of little Danielynn. My hat is in the ring.

leftists demonizing christians like Hitler demonized Jews? Stick to malpracticing in one area (science) Doc, don't double down into 29th century European history also.

Hitler and the Christians in Germany were very much aligned. Hitler obviously demonized the Jews but he did so with at least the silent acquiesence of the German Christian Church. You dont think all those people saluting Hiter were aethists do you?

I don't hate anyone bubba. I'm merely pointing out some pretty evile people disguised as Christians as well as the majority of Christians who are being led down a path which is detrimental to this country.

You don't think the gambling thing was influenced by the christian right of the republican party. You think it was an IRS issue? Somebody wake this guy up.

It was 90% appeasement to the christian right and 10% as a result of corporate america who owns all the casinos and wanted the revenue to stay here and not in some central american countrys economy.

Too bad the big murdered doesn't think that way when it comes to jobs.. Speaking of jobs just heard that with Daimler-Chrysler anticpated layoffs to be announced today, the US economy will have lost 0ver 900,000 jobs in the automotive sectore since 1996.

Now when did they come into power? That good old contract with america was more like a contract with Japan.

eddie

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

"liberalism is a disease? tell that to the 3000 dead Americans, 11,000 seriously wounded Americans and tens of thousands of dead Iraqi's killed by your neocon leader."
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Yep What about the other 3,000 that died that weren't miltary--what about the millions of others that died in wars protecting U.s.--they are non issue correct-I thought so

'You are correct that i was a Viet Nam war protester. You are further correct that I was 100%, absolutely, without a doubt, against the invasion by the US of a country which was not a threat to it in anyway and which further distracted us from our search from the killer of 3000 who happens to be friends of the Bush family.

Yeah, dumb, dumb, you are right on both counts. And guess what Wayne, history has proven I was right to oppose both US disasters. The damage Bush and the neocons have done to this country is immeasurable and probably fatal."

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Had no doubt about your status Edward--you might add it is your opinion of history--what would history look like if you and your fellow fanny packers were around during korean war--world war one--ect.

Would it be correct to say you are against anything you may have to make personal sacrifice.
Out of curiousity would you rather watch Code Pink demonstrations or Flags of Our Fathers?

Do they give you a pink heart for papercuts when you mail out those flyers--a tin star if you can find a vet to spit on and oak leaf cluster if he's disabled?

I'll tell you again--When catastrophes occur everyone runs--some to help and some for cover--

 

[smurphy]

the only resemblence to what is going on in America with what went on in Germany, is you leftists are demonizing Christians the same way Hitler demonized the Jews. Blame all of soceity's ill on them. Get everyone to hate a particular group of people. They are too rich, too powerful, too ignorant, too intolerant, blah blah blah. Seems remarkably similiar. .

Yeah, pretty much exactly like Nazi Germany.

All Nazi Germany comparisons are stupid. But every couple months people post some article that either implies Bush is Hitler, or Saddam was Hitler, or the Jews are LIberals, or the Jews are Christians, or Rumsfeld is Rommel, or the Kurds are the Belgians, or blah blah fukn blah.

It's all pointless - THIS IS NOT WW2!

 

[smurphy]

Dogs, please learn the damn quote tool once and for all. I'm sick of reading your stuff thinking it's you suddenly turned into a liberal - only to figure out that you are quoting someone. It's so easy, even a caveman can do it.

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Wayne:

You keep on comparing Iraq to other wars this country has been involved in. Hey, Adolph, I hate to wake you up but once again, the USA invaded Iraq without provocation. It ain't like Korea or WWI. We were the aggressors after the rest of the world said no. You keep forgetting that fact.

You are right about all those deaths in Iraq. They can be laid at your feet for supporting and continuing to support the mad man on Pennsylvannia ave. Go ahead, a**hole, call it the "defense of USA" as much as you want.

The reality is that you and your boys invaded Iraq much the same way as Hitler invaded Poland. From the facts you cannot run. Those are the facts. All the pretense for war was shoved right up your clowns ass.

You and your kind are responsible for the deaths of thousands and the future loss of life in this country due to your rambo, stupid, mentality. Go to hell.

Saul, either learn from history or repeat it. There are many similaties if you care to look. Most like to write it off as impossible. Look into it before you write it off.

Eddie

 

[smurphy]

The reality is that you and your boys invaded Iraq much the same way as Hitler invaded Poland.

Christ's sake, Eddie! What did I just say?

OK - just for fun - in detail, why don't you list the similarities of Germany's invasion of Poland with our invasion of Iraq. I'd like to hear this - should be entertaining. ...Aaaaaand, go:

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Now I have to do a report? Read Hedges.

Ed

 

[smurphy]

Well, you make such a bold statement. ...Off hand, I see absolutely no similarities to Germany-Poland...other than that we invaded - which makes it just as similar as Hannibal's elephants invading Rome or the Union invading the Confederacy or the Vikings invading the Inuits...you get the point.

So in this Polish example, who are we sending to concentration camps? ...And why isn't there law and order in Iraq? Poland was very quickly under strict order. What was the resource in Poland that Germany was after, and how similar to oil was that? What religion was most of Poland, and did that religion already have a jihad against Germany? Who was the previous leader of Poland before Hitler invaded, and did he have a history of gassing the Prussians or invading tiny Czech Republic, only to have the UN put sanctions on him and a UN force oust them from Czech? ...I don't know, this could be exhausting, but I'm perfectly willing to debate the merits of any WW2 comparison with our current war from any side of the fence. We go backwards when we attempt to draw these parallels.

 

[bjfinste]

the Union invading the Confederacy

Come on now Saul... the Union didn't invade the south.... the treasonous Confederates fired the first shots of the Civil War on Fort Sumter.

 

[smurphy]

yeah, wtf ever, einstein. first INVASION was north upon south. ....isn't ft. sumpter in s. carolina?

 

[Pujo21]

Well Mr. Bush only has another year and change left in office.

Be prerared to be robbed blind.Nothing new with this administartion.

I don't much care anymore what he/they do anymore. I have reolved myself to not caring.

This is the same dude that tried his social security scam.

But he is resourceful, if doesn't get one place he gets it another.

Money going to other countries..North Korea and the annual forgiven billions to Israel ( if this aint welfare, then what is ?

someone in another thread said they are not for giving money for people that do nothing for it, yet we keep giving this money to certain countries

This is where you american taxes are going ..to other countries welfare cookie jar like North Korea and Israel

 

[The Sponge]

Pujo when its billions the righties dont have a problem with it. When its thousand that is when their skirts get a little riled. Id rather piss that money away to useless people on Welfare then give it free to isreal. didnt they just get caught with some kinda deal with China behind our backs? They probably got a raise for this.

 

[bjfinste]

yeah, wtf ever, einstein. first INVASION was north upon south. ....isn't ft. sumpter in s. carolina?

It was a federal fort that was always there. There was no "invasion" to speak of.