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DeweyOxburger
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Colorado Could Let Inmates Work on Farms


DENVER (AP) -- Colorado is considering letting prison inmates work on private farms after farmers complained that an illegal-immigration crackdown has left them short-handed, officials said.

Two vegetable farmers told prison officials and lawmakers that they need five to 20 workers and will pay up to $9.60 an hour - more than they've paid migrant workers in the past - but can't find anyone to do the work.

The Pueblo Country farmers, Joe Pisciotta and Phil Prutch, said immigrant workers are afraid to come to Colorado because of its tougher immigrant laws passed last summer. Among other things, the laws require people receiving state and federal benefits to prove they are legal U.S. residents.

"They've just given up and gone to other states that don't have these new laws. They just don't want to deal with it," Pisciotta said.

The Corrections Department program would probably start in Pueblo County, operating under the prison industries division, which already trains and employs about 1,200 inmates, department Executive Director Ari Zavaras said.

"Depending on how well it works, we'll see where it will go," Zavaras said this week.

He said the program fits his and Gov. Bill Ritter's new emphasis on reducing recidivism. Under current growth estimates, prison construction will cost the state hundreds of millions of dollars over the next five years.

Colorado's prison industries system already has internal agricultural jobs including growing flowers, raising bees and cultivating wine grapes. Inmates also manufacture items ranging from furniture to plastic bags.
 

AR182

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i don't see anything wrong with prisoners working.

out here we have a sheriff who uses prisoners to pick up debris on the side of the various roads in the valley. sometimes i have seen chain gangs with deputies toting rifles guarding the prisoners as they work....see nothing wrong with it.
 

smurphy

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i don't see anything wrong with prisoners working.

out here we have a sheriff who uses prisoners to pick up debris on the side of the various roads in the valley. sometimes i have seen chain gangs with deputies toting rifles guarding the prisoners as they work....see nothing wrong with it.

Yeah, prisoners doing public work is one thing - but I'd rather have an immigrant working a private farm than a prisoner.
 

gardenweasel

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i don't see anything wrong with prisoners working.

out here we have a sheriff who uses prisoners to pick up debris on the side of the various roads in the valley. sometimes i have seen chain gangs with deputies toting rifles guarding the prisoners as they work....see nothing wrong with it.

sherriff joe for president.....

ar1...when i retire,i`m coming out to see you in arizona.....if we`re both still on the green side of the grass....

i only hope the cardinals have their asses in gear by then.....

i`ll buy you many,many beers,my friend.........
 

AR182

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sherriff joe for president.....

ar1...when i retire,i`m coming out to see you in arizona.....if we`re both still on the green side of the grass....

i only hope the cardinals have their asses in gear by then.....

i`ll buy you many,many beers,my friend.........

anytime my friend...but why wait until you retire?
 

Spytheweb

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Why not pay a good wage

Why not pay a good wage

they get alittle spoiled when they paid $4.00 an hour and establish a profit line and cry when they can't meet it. Find out what is being grown too much of and tell the government that you plan to grow that and the government will pay you not to grow it. When one of these illegals kills one of your family members will it be worth the money?
 

marine

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they get alittle spoiled when they paid $4.00 an hour and establish a profit line and cry when they can't meet it. Find out what is being grown too much of and tell the government that you plan to grow that and the government will pay you not to grow it. When one of these illegals kills one of your family members will it be worth the money?

Did you miss this line? they are paying MORE than the minimum wage and people still wont do it.

Two vegetable farmers told prison officials and lawmakers that they need five to 20 workers and will pay up to $9.60 an hour
 

smurphy

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We need the labor - the stats show it. I've really changed my view about this. I actually think Bush had a pretty good idea in retrospect - a pragmatic one anyway.

Weasel, you need to leave your house and vist AR, Finster, and I. ...It's OK, Finster and I will understand if you only want to talk to AR. I have to warn you though, HE'S NOT SO NICE IN REAL LIFE. In fact, he's kind of a jerk.
 

djv

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Better to have them work then play basketball all day. State would come out way ahead. Farm will pay 9.40. The state pays prisoners 1.00. I see the farm had to up it's pay vs what it was paying the migrant workers.
 
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