Wow, Did Ohio State get shafted!

[Mags]

I know it's just a prestige thing, but how in the world did Ohio State NOT get #1 overall seed?

On top of it, how the heck did they end up 3rd!:scared

Let's see, Ohio State:

#1 in coaches poll
#1 in AP poll
#1 in RPI
Won the Big 10 regular season
Won the Big 10 tournament

In winning the Big 10 tourney, they beat the #4 RPI team, and #3 ranked team, not some bunny.

Who did FL beat in the tourney? #35 or so Arkansas. Who did NC beat in the tourney? #83 North Carolina State.

What does the NCAA even have polls, or better yet, even ever reference the RPI? Obviously it has no meaning to the committee at all.

I seriously doubt the committee does any analysis at all. They probably sit around the table with pizza and beer and ask each other as they get drunk "Who do you like?". The computers we see on the table are the ones you see at open houses when buying a house - in other words, they are made out of cardboard and are there for looks only.

What is so hypocritical is in football EVERYTHING revolves around the BCS and the ranking. Then when basketball comes, they claim they use the RPI (which admittedly isn't perfect, but either is the BCS) which is the only real tool to compare schedules and results and they totally disregard it.

Not that I am a Ohio State fan at all, but of any team's seeding in the tourney, they certainly gotted screwed the hardest. #1 in every conceivable ranking, but end up ranked as the 3rd ranked team for the tournament.

And the head of the committee is from Princeton? And I thought Ivy League guys were smart... :mj07:

 

[TouchdownJesus]

I think it has something to do with playing in a weak conference all year. Not the fact that they finished the season playing one strong team.

UNC and Florida both played the team that was waiting for them today.

Also, the rankings are a system of its own. A team loses, another team moves up.

Either way, its not a big deal at all. I'd rather have their bracket than having my Heels look to Marquette, Texas, and Georgetown down the road.

 

[huge]

there happy

there happy

u cant compare big ten basketball to acc or sec baskets. big ten has wis and ohio st. and thats it. that conference sucks. still cant believe ill made it. big ten will bow out early except for ohio st..

 

[yyz]

That should just tell you how bad the pollsters wanted Ohio State to lose one of their last 17 games, so they could drop them to about 4th or 5th in the polls!

I think this years bracket looks amazingly tough to pick!

 

[hawkeye]

I think they got the easiest region-what esle do you want besides the #1 seed?

 

[vinnie]

I think they got the easiest region

.......:iagree:

 

[Old School]

Mags makes a valid point given the voting and rpi all season long

which begs the question from a group of fairly smart basketball folks

in Atlanta,Ga. site of the finals..

Ohio St. ..are they favored against:??

Florida...I doubt it

North Carolina..surely not

Kansas....again I doubt it

The team in the 4th best conference got the 3rd best seed..

The proof is in the pudding now.


good luck everybody..when it is all said and done it is all about $$$$$ from the books.The rest of it is rah rah rah rah

 

[dr. freeze]

the big 10 SUCKS

they have nowhere near the talent of the other top leagues

Wisconsin getting a 2 seed is a joke. There are better 6 and 7 seeds than this unit.

Ohio State beat who?

Texas is better than them and they are a 4 seed.

 

[bake2252]

Texas may be a better team than OSU right now, but the seeds are set on the whole year. Texas lost to the seventh place team in the big ten (MSU)

 

[Mags]

the big 10 SUCKS

they have nowhere near the talent of the other top leagues

Wisconsin getting a 2 seed is a joke. There are better 6 and 7 seeds than this unit.

Ohio State beat who?

Texas is better than them and they are a 4 seed.

This comment is flat out wrong. Wisky played a decent schedule - not a great one, but a decent one. Outside of the Big 10 they did beat Pitt, Auburn, Florida State, Marquette, Winthrop and Georgia. Their losses were all to teams with RPI's of 44 or better (Michigan State, Ohio State twice, Missouri State, Indiana).

You may not lilke their style of play, but they certainly have proved it on the court. Good teams do not lose to poor teams - teams with RPI's outside of the top 50. And never at home of course.

Which is EXACTLY what Kansas did. Kansas lost AT HOME to a team ranked 81st (Oral Roberts) and on the road to one ranked 65 (DePaul). So, be careful before you make statements that, frankly, make no sense.

I assume you are a Kansas fan. Good teams don't lose to very poor teams, especially at home. Which is why Kansas is a joke. It's either poor coaching or poor players - but you don't lose at home to Oral Roberts unless you have one or the other.

 

[Dice34]

u cant compare big ten basketball to acc or sec baskets. big ten has wis and ohio st. and thats it. that conference sucks. still cant believe ill made it. big ten will bow out early except for ohio st..

blah blah blah....actually you can

last 10 years.....40 Final 4 teams

ACC.....10
Big 10....9
Big 12....5
SEC.......5
Big East..4
Pac 10...4
Marquette 2003 (not big east yet)
George Mason 2006
Utah 1998

 

[Dice34]

the big 10 SUCKS

they have nowhere near the talent of the other top leagues

Wisconsin getting a 2 seed is a joke. There are better 6 and 7 seeds than this unit.

Ohio State beat who?

Texas is better than them and they are a 4 seed.

geez, i know why youre mad, its b/c a team from the big 12 hasn't seen the trophy in almost 20 years.......one team, kansas, has appeared twice in the champ game since 89.....yikes, let out frustration

 

[saint]

blah blah blah....actually you can

last 10 years.....40 Final 4 teams

ACC.....10
Big 10....9
Big 12....5
SEC.......5
Big East..4
Pac 10...4
Marquette 2003 (not big east yet)
George Mason 2006
Utah 1998

They don't hand out championships based on what happened last year, or for the last 10 years in this case.

This year his statement is accurate "u cant compare big ten basketball to acc or sec baskets. ". Your argument makes no sense.

 

[huge]

you cant be serious

you cant be serious

blah blah blah....actually you can

last 10 years.....40 Final 4 teams

ACC.....10
Big 10....9
Big 12....5
SEC.......5
Big East..4
Pac 10...4
Marquette 2003 (not big east yet)
George Mason 2006
Utah 1998

big ten baskets sucks. if that conference is so good how come they have never won the acc/big ten tourney! im from the midwest and dread watching this boring conference. its hard to believe that they have six teams in this year, and half the teams wont get by the first round.

 

[maverick2112]

big ten baskets sucks. if that conference is so good how come they have never won the acc/big ten tourney! im from the midwest and dread watching this boring conference. its hard to believe that they have six teams in this year, and half the teams wont get by the first round.

ACC-BIG 10 Tourney?????..........last time I checked each team plays another from the other conference and thats it.........not a tourney at all......just a matchup...........which really means nothing so early in the season.........:00hour

 

[Marra]

Big 10 overrated - AGAIN. It happens every year, but many have selective memories. Its great for me, it makes me cash.

 

[Sun Tzu]

Umm based on my rough review of the brackets OSU hardly got shafted. They probably have the easiest road of all the 1 seeds. By far.

 

[ELVIS]

agreed, tickled that Memphis is the #2. easier road to the ATL, than our draw last year as a #1.

concerned about nevada because of our weak schedule and lack of post dominance. however, F' vitalis because we go about ten deep. so i hope that nevada is prepared to run and get get pressed for 40+. we are very althletic, but again not strong in the post and we shoot a ton of ill advised shots. however, we are very talented.

hope to play ohio st. because that would mean we made it to the big 4, and joey dorsey's lazy ass would meet a man in the post, oden.

 

[Sun Tzu]

Creighton will beat Nevada. And Memphis has a serious FT problem as well. I like Creighton to surprise to the Sweet 16.

 

[Dice34]

They don't hand out championships based on what happened last year, or for the last 10 years in this case.

This year his statement is accurate "u cant compare big ten basketball to acc or sec baskets. ". Your argument makes no sense.

Youre right overall their conferences are stronger this year but they dont hand out championships for just showing up either....the Big 10 seems to hold their own vs the all-mighty sec and acc at tourney time and i presented the #'s for final 4 teams over the last 10 years....its not dental surgery for christ sake

I'm not even a fan of Big 10 bball b....i'm a big east guy so i could care less about any of this talk, because Georgetown will win this thing:142smilie

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