of course they are out of their minds....
i agree it's bush's fault we are in this mess. it's cheney & rumsfeld who were behind the strategy of this war...but since they serve in the bush's administration...the blame falls right to bush.
Russian leak, Iran sneak attack Apr 6th
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of course they are out of their minds....
i agree it's bush's fault we are in this mess. it's cheney & rumsfeld who were behind the strategy of this war...but since they serve in the bush's administration...the blame falls right to bush.
piece here sez sailors were "searching for smugglers"
piece here sez sailors were "searching for smugglers"
25 March 2007
IRAN: SWAP SAILORS FOR OUR JAILED SPIES
EXCLUSIVE Captured Britons in Tehran move Mullahs are holding them hostage
By Rupert Hamer Defence Correspondent Rupert.Hamer@Sundaymirror.Co.Uk
HARDLINERS who seized 15 British sailors and marines will demand a "prisoners swap" of Iranian agents to secure their release.
Up to 50 Iranian "spies" have been captured and imprisoned by British troops in secret operations in southern Iraq in the last four years.
Now Government officials are having to consider setting them free to save the eight sailors - one a woman - and seven Royal Marines held by Iranians.
The revelation came as the sailors were interrogated by the Iranian secret service after reportedly being moved to the capital, Tehran.
Meanwhile Foreign Office minister Lord Triesman spent an hour with Iran's ambassador in London demanding their safe return.
The ambassador, Rasoul Movahedian, responded by blaming Naval personnel for straying into "territorial waters".
The sailors, serving on frigate HMS Cornwall, had been on two inflatable speed boats searching for smugglers coming from Iraq.
But shortly after boarding a small boat on the Shatt al Arab waterway on the Iran-Iraq border to check for illegal goods, they were surrounded by Iranian Revolutionary Guard gunboats. Led away under armed guard, the sailors were taken to a nearby base.
Yesterday Iranian military official General Ali Reza Afshar said the sailors had all "confessed to illegal entry into Iran's waters".
He said: "They are being interrogated and have confessed to aggression into the Islamic Republic of Iran's waters."
Afisherman on the Shatt al-Arab who witnessed the incident said the British had definitely been in Iraqi waters.
Last night a senior Whitehall source said: "The freeing of agents will almost certainly be one of Iran's demands - and there certainly will be demands.
"Some have been arrested, some have been repatriated, but many are still being questioned under lock and key.
"Their imprisonment has enraged Iranian leaders - most of whom do not even recognise Iran's borders with Iraq."
Tensions are already high between Iran and the West, as the UN voted last night for tougher sanctions against Iran's plans to go ahead with its programme to create a nuclear weapon.
Plans for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to address the UN in New York yesterday were cancelled amid claims that visas had been obstructed.
A SERIES of suicide bombs targeting Iraqi police ripped through Baghdad yesterday, killing more than 60 people.
In the worst attack, at least 20 died when a lorry full of explosives blew up by a police station in the Dora district.
piece here sez sailors were "searching for smugglers"
25 March 2007
IRAN: SWAP SAILORS FOR OUR JAILED SPIES
EXCLUSIVE Captured Britons in Tehran move Mullahs are holding them hostage
By Rupert Hamer Defence Correspondent Rupert.Hamer@Sundaymirror.Co.Uk
HARDLINERS who seized 15 British sailors and marines will demand a "prisoners swap" of Iranian agents to secure their release.
Up to 50 Iranian "spies" have been captured and imprisoned by British troops in secret operations in southern Iraq in the last four years.
Now Government officials are having to consider setting them free to save the eight sailors - one a woman - and seven Royal Marines held by Iranians.
The revelation came as the sailors were interrogated by the Iranian secret service after reportedly being moved to the capital, Tehran.
Meanwhile Foreign Office minister Lord Triesman spent an hour with Iran's ambassador in London demanding their safe return.
The ambassador, Rasoul Movahedian, responded by blaming Naval personnel for straying into "territorial waters".
The sailors, serving on frigate HMS Cornwall, had been on two inflatable speed boats searching for smugglers coming from Iraq.
But shortly after boarding a small boat on the Shatt al Arab waterway on the Iran-Iraq border to check for illegal goods, they were surrounded by Iranian Revolutionary Guard gunboats. Led away under armed guard, the sailors were taken to a nearby base.
Yesterday Iranian military official General Ali Reza Afshar said the sailors had all "confessed to illegal entry into Iran's waters".
He said: "They are being interrogated and have confessed to aggression into the Islamic Republic of Iran's waters."
Afisherman on the Shatt al-Arab who witnessed the incident said the British had definitely been in Iraqi waters.
Last night a senior Whitehall source said: "The freeing of agents will almost certainly be one of Iran's demands - and there certainly will be demands.
"Some have been arrested, some have been repatriated, but many are still being questioned under lock and key.
"Their imprisonment has enraged Iranian leaders - most of whom do not even recognise Iran's borders with Iraq."
Tensions are already high between Iran and the West, as the UN voted last night for tougher sanctions against Iran's plans to go ahead with its programme to create a nuclear weapon.
Plans for President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to address the UN in New York yesterday were cancelled amid claims that visas had been obstructed.
A SERIES of suicide bombs targeting Iraqi police ripped through Baghdad yesterday, killing more than 60 people.
In the worst attack, at least 20 died when a lorry full of explosives blew up by a police station in the Dora district.
A pre-emptive strike on Iran by us is a bad idea, I believe. It's probably what Ahmadenijad wants. He's kind of like Bush was in August 2001 - not popular. Nothing like a brutal attack from the enemy to unite a country and religion.
Funny how most start pounding there chest and then when the smoke clears its always our gov't that starts this type of shit. Just like i said earlier a few high level Iranians have all the sudden disappeared now this happens to the sailors. What is Iran supposed to do just keep letting it happen? Why don't we just get the hell out of these peoples lives and let them live them for themselves? If all they had was a market on horseshit we wouldn't even give them a second thought. What we need is to see about two hundred thousand of them walking our streets occupying us and then we might be able to know what this feels like.
No strike. These nitwits we have in office now along with their clueless backers might end up hitting Russia thinking it was Iran. How anyone thinks it would be a good idea to strike Iran with these bozo's in office needs there heads examine.
They will not execute the British troops.
If they try them they will just deport them.
Its good insurance for now to keep the US and others at bay maybe.
I said last year that Bush was planning on attacking Iran in April.
At this time, I would have to say it will be a very very bad decision to do it. If we do it, we will not be safe for 4 generations.
I would be more inclined to let them have their stupid nukes, and if they ever use them on any country, Then turn Iran into dust.
So many ships over there now. It sounds like something might happen.
Bush and Cheney may be totally out of control at this point.
Will they ask Congress if they can take Irans nuke stuff out, or have they already ?
If they try them they will just deport them.
Its good insurance for now to keep the US and others at bay maybe.
I said last year that Bush was planning on attacking Iran in April.
At this time, I would have to say it will be a very very bad decision to do it. If we do it, we will not be safe for 4 generations.
I would be more inclined to let them have their stupid nukes, and if they ever use them on any country, Then turn Iran into dust.
So many ships over there now. It sounds like something might happen.
Bush and Cheney may be totally out of control at this point.
Will they ask Congress if they can take Irans nuke stuff out, or have they already ?
That's my view on nuclear proliferation. I don't think it's realistic to be able to keep every nation from developing the technology. Pre-emptive strikes will only make things worse.
I had a rather eye opening experience for me at least. This weekend my wife and I were eating at a pizza buffet place.
Across from us was a woman and her family that were obviously muslims. Husband, two girls , one boy. Girls had only white head things on.
The woman was in the full black garb with only her eyes showing. It was weird glancing over and seeing her stuff pizza into her mouth wearing that burka robe thing.
I said to my wife, you know it sure would be easy to strap on some IED's in there with all that room.
I left a tip and we left.
Only in America.
Across from us was a woman and her family that were obviously muslims. Husband, two girls , one boy. Girls had only white head things on.
The woman was in the full black garb with only her eyes showing. It was weird glancing over and seeing her stuff pizza into her mouth wearing that burka robe thing.
I said to my wife, you know it sure would be easy to strap on some IED's in there with all that room.
I left a tip and we left.
Only in America.
What do you think may happen If one of the 15 British servicemen "accidentally" dies while being held prisoner?
sorry murph...
pizza from dominos, chucky cheese, etc is not pizza....it's cardboard with marinara sauce....
if we send corporate pizza to people in other countries they will take it as a declaration of war...so no corporate pizza.
this is my problem with many on the left.....
what definitive proof is there that they were in iranian territorial waters?.....other than the word of the iranians?.....
and i wopnder why the brits just gave up...with all the western naval power in the vicinity?....
we had to have a carrier nearby....
rules of engagement?....
utter insanity....
i heard that there were other british naval vessels in the area.....but they decided not to do anything.
As if we have not been lied to over and over by our government. Items like how Pat Tillman died. Sure Iran might be ling here. But they don't have a lock on that. And AR yes the other Brit vessel as cover didn't do a thing. Are we seeing a set up??
Bush and Cheney those nights in hollow Armour. They are getting desperate with there war.
Bush and Cheney those nights in hollow Armour. They are getting desperate with there war.
